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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:01 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
That turcotte kid is set to be picked higher than 8th i would suspect.

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:07 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:24 am Numbers are funny:

Nik Ehlers- 292 GP- 197 points- .674 ppg= 55 points per 82. 7 points in 15 playoff games

Will Nylander- 233 GP- 160 points- .687 ppg= 56.3 points per 82. 8 points in 13 playoff games

Jake Virtanen- 207 GP- 59 points- .285 ppg= 23.4 points per 82. No points in no playoff games. Should find out about his playoff performance in 2021 or 2022.

So I guess the problem is the cap hit of these other players. I mean they’re making fucking Eriksson type money. :lol:
Dude, your thoughts?

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:35 pm
by SKYO
Speaking of mini-mouse - Cole Caufield.

He's up there in goals per game of former US elites.

- Caufield .981
- Kessel .945
- Matthews .917
- P. Kane .897

Image

In a few years some teams might be wishing they took a chance on this fella, Caufield in his highlights - his shot he's a natural sniper, so effortless his snipes to top corner.

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:09 am
by Chef Boi RD
SKYO wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:35 pm Speaking of mini-mouse - Cole Caufield.

He's up there in goals per game of former US elites.

- Caufield .981
- Kessel .945
- Matthews .917
- P. Kane .897

Image

In a few years some teams might be wishing they took a chance on this fella, Caufield in his highlights - his shot he's a natural sniper, so effortless his snipes to top corner.
Blob is a MASSIVE DeBrincat fan. He should be all over this shrimp as well. Could be a steal. I say “DO IIIIIIIIIIIT”!

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:17 am
by Chef Boi RD
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:07 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:24 am Numbers are funny:

Nik Ehlers- 292 GP- 197 points- .674 ppg= 55 points per 82. 7 points in 15 playoff games

Will Nylander- 233 GP- 160 points- .687 ppg= 56.3 points per 82. 8 points in 13 playoff games

Jake Virtanen- 207 GP- 59 points- .285 ppg= 23.4 points per 82. No points in no playoff games. Should find out about his playoff performance in 2021 or 2022.

So I guess the problem is the cap hit of these other players. I mean they’re making fucking Eriksson type money. :lol:
Dude, your thoughts?
Why are you comparing a 2016 veteran UFA signing to two 2014 draft picks you constantly get mad at Benning for not drafting instead of drafting Virtanen who is making $6 Million less than those 2 and producing as well as those 2 players this season but isn’t razor thin as those 2 players, hits, an excellent skater, huge, can fire the puck. With how concerned you are with the cap you should be thrilled with having Jake at $1.25 Million instead of Will at $10.2 Million (6 goals) and razor thin perimeter player injuries - Mason Ehlers at $7 million whom both were universally criticized for their piss poor playoff performance last year.

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:30 am
by rikster
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:24 am Numbers are funny:

Nik Ehlers- 292 GP- 197 points- .674 ppg= 55 points per 82. 7 points in 15 playoff games

Will Nylander- 233 GP- 160 points- .687 ppg= 56.3 points per 82. 8 points in 13 playoff games

Jake Virtanen- 207 GP- 59 points- .285 ppg= 23.4 points per 82. No points in no playoff games. Should find out about his playoff performance in 2021 or 2022.

So I guess the problem is the cap hit of these other players. I mean they’re making fucking Eriksson type money. :lol:
Numbers sure are funny;

Ehlers $6,000,000 cap hit Goals this season/Team goals this season 19/260 or 7.3% of total team goals scored

Nylnder $6,900,000 cap hit Goals this season/Team goals this season 6/275 or 2.18% of total team goals scored

Virtanen $1,250,000 cap hit Goals this season/Team goals this season 15/214 or 7.00% of total team goals scored

I think the better comparison is Ehlers vs Nylander because they both play for more skilled teams and are similar players while Virtanen plays for an offensively challenged team and plays on the third line and doesn't get power play time...

But he is a totally different type of player and the one of the three that I would want for a long playoff run because of his combination of speed and physicality...

Of all of the current Canucks, Virtanen might be the player I'm most interested in seeing play when the team returns to the post season....

I'm expecting a Sergio Momesso type of playoffs....Sergio could be frustrating to watch during the regular season but come playoff time he went into beast mode and became a physically dominant player similar to what Ferland in Calgary did to the Canucks ...

Based on the above stats, Benning should be applauded for the Virtanen contract which carries into next season...

Take care...

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:39 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Why not factor in assists or points?

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:42 am
by Blob Mckenzie
RoyalDude wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:17 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:07 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:24 am Numbers are funny:

Nik Ehlers- 292 GP- 197 points- .674 ppg= 55 points per 82. 7 points in 15 playoff games

Will Nylander- 233 GP- 160 points- .687 ppg= 56.3 points per 82. 8 points in 13 playoff games

Jake Virtanen- 207 GP- 59 points- .285 ppg= 23.4 points per 82. No points in no playoff games. Should find out about his playoff performance in 2021 or 2022.

So I guess the problem is the cap hit of these other players. I mean they’re making fucking Eriksson type money. :lol:
Dude, your thoughts?
Why are you comparing a 2016 veteran UFA signing to two 2014 draft picks you constantly get mad at Benning for not drafting instead of drafting Virtanen who is making $6 Million less than those 2 and producing as well as those 2 players this season but isn’t razor thin as those 2 players, hits, an excellent skater, huge, can fire the puck. With how concerned you are with the cap you should be thrilled with having Jake at $1.25 Million instead of Will at $10.2 Million (6 goals) and razor thin perimeter player injuries - Mason Ehlers at $7 million whom both were universally criticized for their piss poor playoff performance last year.
I constantly get mad about them not being drafted? Proof?

I do however pound your posts full of holes when you post dumb shit like you did. :lol:

So in this case of young proven players getting paid what they’re worth, you have a massive problem with their cap hits. But in the case of Air Thief, Birdbones and Gudbranson it doesn’t matter is they’re grossly overpaid . You’re agenda is visible from miles away.

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:36 am
by rikster
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:39 am Why not factor in assists or points?
Ok...

Ehlers Points/Team points 35/698 5.01% of total points scored

Nylander 26/740 3.51% of total points scored

Virtanen 25/547 4.57% of total points scored
So in this case of young proven players getting paid what they’re worth, you have a massive problem with their cap hits. But in the case of Air Thief, Birdbones and Gudbranson it doesn’t matter is they’re grossly overpaid
The Penguins disagree Gudbranson is overpaid...

What you refuse to accept/understand is that the Jets and the leaves are at the stage of their evolution where every dollar against the cap matters, and in the case of the leaves the decision to cave to the Nylander camp after signing Tavares to a massive contract and on the eve of having to extend Marner made no sense, especially for a player who is much of the same in Toronto and who needs to play on the top lines to be effective...

The time to judge Benning and companies ability to manage a cap while resigning its core players hasn't arrived yet, although if the Horvat deal is any indication that won't be a problem...

Take care....

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:41 am
by rats19
Putting up good points rikster.... thnx

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:54 am
by SKYO
where did this smart rikster come from?

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:21 am
by Topper
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:42 am ... it doesn’t matter is they’re grossly overpaid .
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:25 am Are you involved in paying the salaries?

viewtopic.php?p=335834#p335834

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:21 am
by Blob Mckenzie
rikster wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:36 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:39 am Why not factor in assists or points?
Ok...

Ehlers Points/Team points 35/698 5.01% of total points scored

Nylander 26/740 3.51% of total points scored

Virtanen 25/547 4.57% of total points scored
So in this case of young proven players getting paid what they’re worth, you have a massive problem with their cap hits. But in the case of Air Thief, Birdbones and Gudbranson it doesn’t matter is they’re grossly overpaid
The Penguins disagree Gudbranson is overpaid...

What you refuse to accept/understand is that the Jets and the Leaves are at the stage of their evolution where every dollar against the cap matters, and in the case of the Leaves the decision to cave to the Nylander camp after signing Tavares to a massive contract and on the eve of having to extend Marner made no sense, especially for a player who is much of the same in Toronto and who needs to play on the top lines to be effective...

The time to judge Benning and companies ability to manage a cap while resigning its core players hasn't arrived yet, although if the Horvat deal is any indication that won't be a problem...

Take care....
Not sure where you got your points pctg numbers from, but whatever. Either way I responded to the board troll who flips his shit about two market value contracts for two young players. He brings it up daily. I pounded his post full of holes. Either way if the Jets and leaves choose to move on from those contracts they can do so easily without retaining salary.

For the record Virtanen is on a good contract and I’ve never once bitched about it. He is a third line player for the foreseeable future. It wasn’t the right choice at the time but it isn’t a massive blunder like the Juolevi pick.

I like the folks who continue to say cap manglement doesn’t matter. I think it matters to Aquilini. I’d be shocked if it didn’t. It illustrates whether a manager can budget or if he is capable of being cost conscious. Over the last four years thrCanucks have been pretty close to the cap ceiling (on average), They likely could have iced a similar product and saved Aquilini 50 or 60 million. Not to mention the guys they signed on cheap one and two year deals could have been flipped for picks and more assets would have been acquired. Not sure why I have to continue repeating this.

Gudbranson has now been playing on the bottom pairing where he belongs. And really Luke Schenn has been just as good or better at 20 % of the cost

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:23 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Topper wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:21 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:42 am ... it doesn’t matter is they’re grossly overpaid .
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:25 am Are you involved in paying the salaries?

viewtopic.php?p=335834#p335834
It’s called sarcasm Sparky. Try to keep up. Do you need me to dumb it down for you?

Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:26 am
by rats19
I assume the Juolevi blunder is not picking tkachuk...

However once that fact is accepted the level of blunder can and I hope ... be diminished and possibly even eliminated as OJ develops.

So it’s an immediate blunder that may end up not being one at all..