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Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:52 am
by Cousin Strawberry
micky107 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:43 am .

Brock Boeser;
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=172649

Clayton Keller;
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=177805
minus 21 last year though...but is a center
Boeser is a significantly more valuable asset but it does more or less set the bar.

IMO Boeser at 8x8 would be fair for both sides as long as camp brockett doesnt go fishing for dumbass money

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:52 pm
by Hockey Widow
Goldobin gets a one way. So he’s set to earn $900,000 no matter what. If we waive him, no cap residue and since it’s a one way it may make him to be less likely to be plucked on waivers.

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:56 pm
by Madcombinepilot
Gobby contract is a good one for JB

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:37 pm
by Strangelove
The Brown Wizard wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:52 am
micky107 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:43 am .

Brock Boeser;
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=172649

Clayton Keller;
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=177805
minus 21 last year though...but is a center
Boeser is a significantly more valuable asset but it does more or less set the bar.

IMO Boeser at 8x8 would be fair for both sides as long as camp brockett doesnt go fishing for dumbass money
If Boeser's camp wants $7M x 4, they're gonna want at least $9M x 8 imo (that's a few UFA years there)

Would be awesome to get Brock at 8x8 with the way contracts for young stars are going.

But I'd be happy with $7M x 4 at this point....

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:41 pm
by Richardstroker69
Strangelove wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:37 pm
The Brown Wizard wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:52 am
micky107 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:43 am .

Brock Boeser;
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=172649

Clayton Keller;
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=177805
minus 21 last year though...but is a center
Boeser is a significantly more valuable asset but it does more or less set the bar.

IMO Boeser at 8x8 would be fair for both sides as long as camp brockett doesnt go fishing for dumbass money
If Boeser's camp wants $7M x 4, they're gonna want at least $9M x 8 imo (that's a few UFA years there)

Would be awesome to get Brock at 8x8 with the way contracts for young stars are going.

But I'd be happy with $7M x 4 at this point....
I think we’ll see a 7x4 contract, I’m guessing their fighting over how to structure it, brock wanting the qualifying offer to be like timo Meier and Jim wanting a lower qo.

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:43 am
by Mickey107
Harman Dayal
@harmandayal2
With Goldobin signing ($900K), assuming Eriksson and Schaller get buried in the minors, the #Canucks are projected to be left with $7.13M left to sign Brock Boeser.

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Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:56 am
by Cousin Strawberry
Looking over that roster i have to think Baerchi probably gets moved. Theres no room for him and his deal isnt prohibitive.

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:03 am
by Blob Mckenzie
No Biega? Travis likes to roll with 8 D but even if he went with 7, I think Fantenberg would be the guy turfed to Utica.

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:40 am
by Mickey107
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:03 am No Biega? Travis likes to roll with 8 D but even if he went with 7, I think Fantenberg would be the guy turfed to Utica.
I agree. Biega is a rare type of player that can sit and sit but play pretty well, for a spell, them return to the press bin and not bitch
about nothin, just happy to be in the NHL. Tries his ass off and doesn't look too out of place.

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:12 pm
by Topper
Off the cap in Utica

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:28 am
by Mickey107
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They are speaking of the possibility of new contract years for Boeser. Starting to hear more often that the team may like a three year deal.
If I'm Brock and his agent, I wouldn't feel safe with three. There might not be enough left. Seriously.
In order for this resurgence of Stanley cup contender is to succeed, it's going to take everyone and I mean everyone, to take the Horvat approach.
Brock-now and Quinn and Petey in two years. Whereas that might NOT be the direction of thought, viewpoints, of their perspective agents, It would be great to see everyone on board with the build a dynasty plan.
I'm not as optimistic of a considerable cap increase as many. Maybe the new gambling income will translate in a higher cap but I wouldn't bet on it.

Like to see Boeser here by Wednesday; Thursday at the latest. Anything that passes the beginning of camp or even into pre-season and I will
think someone is not playing nicely. Trust me; that is me being polite.

Of note; I could give a flying f**k about; "Well nothing happens till the others start signing", bullshit.
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To be fair;
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie; 9:39 AM · Sep 9, 2019
As we plunge into RFA signing (or not) season, the three-year bridge contract Werenski signed is instructive in understanding some of the dynamics at work, specifically what is the Year 3 salary? AAV is, of course, vitally important but so is the level of compensation in Year 3.

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:45 am
by Blob Mckenzie
micky107 wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:28 am .
They are speaking of the possibility of new contract years for Boeser. Starting to hear more often that the team may like a three year deal.
If I'm Brock and his agent, I wouldn't feel safe with three. There might not be enough left. Seriously.
In order for this resurgence of Stanley cup contender is to succeed, it's going to take everyone and I mean everyone, to take the Horvat approach.
Brock-now and Quinn and Petey in two years. Whereas that might NOT be the direction of thought, viewpoints, of their perspective agents, It would be great to see everyone on board with the build a dynasty plan.
I'm not as optimistic of a considerable cap increase as many. Maybe the new gambling income will translate in a higher cap but I wouldn't bet on it.

Like to see Boeser here by Wednesday; Thursday at the latest. Anything that passes the beginning of camp or even into pre-season and I will
think someone is not playing nicely. Trust me; that is me being polite.

Of note; I could give a flying f**k about; "Well nothing happens till the others start signing", bullshit.
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To be fair;
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie; 9:39 AM · Sep 9, 2019
As we plunge into RFA signing (or not) season, the three-year bridge contract Werenski signed is instructive in understanding some of the dynamics at work, specifically what is the Year 3 salary? AAV is, of course, vitally important but so is the level of compensation in Year 3.
So we can look forward to more tantrums when he’s not in camp?

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:08 pm
by Mickey107
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:45 am
So we can look forward to more tantrums when he’s not in camp?
Of unprecedented magnitude.

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:49 pm
by 2Fingers
JB needs to look long term and do what is right for the team and if this means Boser needs to miss a month so be it. Just because 1 GM gave the wrong type of deals it does not mean it should become the norm. If Boeser/Kachuck and others all miss part of the season because their agents are trying to construct a deal that butt fracks the team when it expires then just say no.

Yes the players will get their money and they have a right to request what ever they want.

Reefer is ok with BB not starting until Nov/Dec if it helps the team long term, they are not a contender yet so no negative impact to the team to do it right this time.

Re: Canucks Contracts

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:04 pm
by Mickey107
Reefer2 wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:49 pm
Reefer is ok with BB not starting until Nov/Dec
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