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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:27 pm
by Tciso
micky107 wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:How long til Burkie blinks and drives to the airport to pick up Johnny Hockey
Not long. ;)

$8 million cab ride???

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:39 pm
by Mickey107
Tciso wrote:
micky107 wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:How long til Burkie blinks and drives to the airport to pick up Johnny Hockey
Not long. ;)

$8 million cab ride???
Lil Johnny may win this one. ouch

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:28 pm
by sagebrush
Johnny learns truculence.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:40 pm
by Rocky Dennis
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Y ... ck/1/79740

Yak traded to Blues for conditional pick. To be confirmed by a legit source.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:43 pm
by Rocky Dennis
https://twitter.com/StLouisBlues?ref_sr ... r%5Eauthor

I guess this would be a legit source.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:55 pm
by Rede
Surprised we weren't in on this - but then again Benning is all about character and Chiarelli may not have wanted to trade within the Pacific.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:10 pm
by SKYO
wow a trade!

Yeah chia no doubt didn't want yak in the pacific.

So they traded a 1st, 2nd, Taylor Hall and Yakupov for

An ahler dman, larsson, pochiro & a good ol' cond. 3rd.

BUTTT they still got mcdavid those bastards.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:48 pm
by Island Nucklehead
Kris Russel about to sign in Edmonton apparently.

We trade 3rds for Pedan, not a bad trade for St Louis.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:53 pm
by Strangelove
Yakupov, burnout at age 23...

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:11 pm
by Hockey Widow
Strangelove wrote:Yakupov, burnout at age 23...

And the snow in St. Louis. :mrgreen:

Chiarelli cleaned out the locker room. He had to. Now it's Conner's room and the players that like to behave like the boys on the bus are gone. Which means Kassian must be towing the line.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:43 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Mëds wrote: Bo and Gudbranson could eat up the lion share of that $10.5M in a real hurry if they have even halfway decent seasons.

Gudbranson is our ONLY big, physical, NHL proven, defenseman. He's a legit top-4. If he improves at all in more of a two-way role than he had in Florida $5M is the minimum we are paying him.

Bo had a 40 point sophomore season playing way over his head because of injuries to other players. If Horvat takes another step forward in his development he could easily be staring down 20+ goals and 50 points.

Sean Monahan over in Calgary is another young 2-way center, albeit Monahan has a stronger offensive component to his game, but he also played with Gaudreau and Hudler, was 2nd on the team in PP/TOI, and averaged 48 seconds of PK time per game.....he scored 63 points playing first line and first unit minutes with a pair of scoring wingers. He also saw over 19 minutes of TOI per game.

Bo led Canuck forwards in PK time, by a country mile. He played with developing wingers, and got half the PP time that Monahan saw. His zone starts were far more heavily weighted in the defensive zone, he hit almost twice as much, and blocked more too.

Monahan just finished his ELC and inked over $6M per for 6 years. If Horvat hits 50 points playing with 3rd line calibre wingers, there is no way that Benning can sign him for less than $5M.

Blob is totally right about us having some boat anchors tied to players who are being paid 25% more than they should be.
Mëds you are not allowed to criticize Elmer. You aren't a fan unless you [mod edit] 25-7 and love every move he makes.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:19 pm
by Strangelove
Strangelove wrote:
Mëds wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Mëds this team needs more than the Biter and Miller off the books next year.
Bo and Gudbranson could eat up the lion share of that $10.5M in a real hurry if they have even halfway decent seasons.

Gudbranson is our ONLY big, physical, NHL proven, defenseman. He's a legit top-4. If he improves at all in more of a two-way role than he had in Florida $5M is the minimum we are paying him.

Bo had a 40 point sophomore season playing way over his head because of injuries to other players. If Horvat takes another step forward in his development he could easily be staring down 20+ goals and 50 points.

Sean Monahan over in Calgary is another young 2-way center, albeit Monahan has a stronger offensive component to his game, but he also played with Gaudreau and Hudler, was 2nd on the team in PP/TOI, and averaged 48 seconds of PK time per game.....he scored 63 points playing first line and first unit minutes with a pair of scoring wingers. He also saw over 19 minutes of TOI per game.

Bo led Canuck forwards in PK time, by a country mile. He played with developing wingers, and got half the PP time that Monahan saw. His zone starts were far more heavily weighted in the defensive zone, he hit almost twice as much, and blocked more too.

Monahan just finished his ELC and inked over $6M per for 6 years. If Horvat hits 50 points playing with 3rd line calibre wingers, there is no way that Benning can sign him for less than $5M.

Blob is totally right about us having some boat anchors tied to players who are being paid 25% more than they should be.
First off, aren't you one of the whiners who complain about a bleak future?

... and that Benning sucks in every way humanly possible?

Yet now you're suggesting Benning added a young top-pairing dee for a mere suspect-prospect + a 2nd

... that he kept the right young centre who you suggest will deserve the 40th-highest NHL centre cap-hit

... at the ripe old age of 22? :scowl:

If these two players deserve $5M each next summer, you should kiss Lord Benning's ass!

Secondly, you're wrong about how much they'll get next year and I'm willing to bet on that.

(Guds won't get more than Tanev, and Bo will get a bridge contract)

Thirdly, the correct math would be $5M + $5M - $4.394166M = $5.605834M

(Guds cap-hit right now $3.5M + Bo's cap-hit $894,166 = $4.394166M)

Meaning, even if you're right about $5M each, the extra cap-hit would only be $5.605834M (not $10M).

Meaning even if you're right about $5M each, there would be PLENTY of cap-space left over.

Miller $6M + Burrows $4.5M coming off the books, replaced by guys like Demko $.925M + Etem ~$.800M...

LOTS of cap room, plus the cap will definitely be increasing (willing to bet on that as well).

No doubt the Urine Crew will soon be complaining the team isn't spending to the cap. :roll:

For every player getting paid "more than they should be" there are two who are getting less.

(Tanev, Markstrom, Baertchi, Granlund... all Benning re-signings)

(Blob says Sutter/Dorsett are overpaid by a mere $500K each and that only Sbisa is massively overpaid)

(I disagree with Blob, especially about Sutter who was a great re-signing)

Seriously, when you get this bitter about your Cupless team, it's time to cut bait imesho...
(re-posted because apparently Beelzeblob missed it the first time) :mex:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:11 pm
by givemeda411
Looks like Oilers have now signed Kris Russell. 3.1M for 1yr.

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/oilers- ... -282484920

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:37 pm
by Puck
Hmmm.... Do you think it's enough?
Are they going to turn the corner?
It's been so nice depending on them to suck.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:46 am
by Mickey107
Puck wrote:Hmmm.... Do you think it's enough?
Are they going to turn the corner?
It's been so nice depending on them to suck.
Not really. How much young talent has been wasted there?
The California team's windows are closing and the Pacific will be more of a dog fight.
In reality, that's probably good for us..