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SKYO wrote:

RoyalDude wrote:Apparently another 2 points today for Virtanen at the World U-18's

I'm leaning back to Jake now

Liked how him and Ekblad had there own personal war against each other in that prospect game, laying out vicious hits on each other throughout the game, kid seems like he has a little jarkko ruutu/Matt Cooke running through his veins when it comes to viscous hits. I like that

I hope someone's recording the livestreams and putting up youtube vid's of some of these potential 1st round draftees. As I'm mixed on Nylander, Virtanen, Ritchie, Ehlers.

I still think moving up a few spots to acquire Reinhart is the best plan for this franchises future long term success, much more so than acquiring a good winger with 6th overall, and then just go for a winger or dman in the 2nd round.

And my OG plan of trying to move up to get Reinhart might becoming into fruition.

Gary Mason was on the TEAM1040. (Vancouver Radio) and said that 3 senior NHL scouts say Benning going hard after the #1 pick to take Reinhart.

Guess we can thank Gillis for hiring Torts that helped crumble this past season so we can land such a high pick at #6 , which coincides perfectly for Florida/Tallon targeting Nylander or Ehlers, and we got the dmen that would fulfill their desire for them needing an experienced top 4 dman.

Gary Mason was on the TEAM1040. (Vancouver Radio) and said that 3 senior NHL scouts say Benning going hard after the #1 pick to take Reinhart.

If this is true... really true, then I'm excited; excited about the potential and the future. BUT, having said this, what is the true status of Reinhart?? Is he really the player that he is purported to be?

Here's another thought around Reinhart. IF he is the 'deal' that people say he is, then we shouldn't underestimate what Burke might do on behalf of the Flames. Reinhart's dad was a premier defenceman on the Flames - he has a history with them.... just saying. Burke knows that it would go over well with the Flame fan base to nab him. I don't know if he has the resources to swing the deal with Florida, but it wouldn't suprise me to see him try. Remember, he had the savvy (and balls) to wheel and deal and acquire the Sedins (2nd and 3rd picks over-all). Just food for thought. Seriously though, IF Reinhart is the real deal and Benning finds a way to land him, Benning would rise to 'super-star' status in my eyes.

nuckster wrote:

Gary Mason was on the TEAM1040. (Vancouver Radio) and said that 3 senior NHL scouts say Benning going hard after the #1 pick to take Reinhart.

If this is true... really true, then I'm excited; excited about the potential and the future. BUT, having said this, what is the true status of Reinhart?? Is he really the player that he is purported to be?

Here's another thought around Reinhart. IF he is the 'deal' that people say he is, then we shouldn't underestimate what Burke might do on behalf of the Flames. Reinhart's dad was a premier defenceman on the Flames - he has a history with them.... just saying. Burke knows that it would go over well with the Flame fan base to nab him. I don't know if he has the resources to swing the deal with Florida, but it wouldn't suprise me to see him try. Remember, he had the savvy (and balls) to wheel and deal and acquire the Sedins (2nd and 3rd picks over-all). Just food for thought. Seriously though, IF Reinhart is the real deal and Benning finds a way to land him, Benning would rise to 'super-star' status in my eyes.

Well, no one is projecting Reinhart to be the next Superstar Centre. But if the Canucks' are going with a "Boston Model", they don't need said player to be a franchise centre. Look at the top two Centres' on the Bruins: Krejčí and Bergeron.

If one day, Reinhart and Horvat could be a reasonable facsimile to them, then the Canucks are set at centre. Now, they just need to get that franchise Defenceman ... that's where they trade for Tyler Myers or hope that they can turn Edler into that ....... and also find a Vezina caliber goalie (that's where they sign The Cory as a UFA) ... LOL.

Anyway, on the TSN Radio in Toronto, there was some rumor talk about them putting up a package for the No. 1 pick that would involve Phaneuf, Kadri and their 8th pick for Jovo and the No. 1 pick.

Also reported in the Toronto Sun:

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/06/03/ma ... -no-1-pick

As an objective 3rd party, would a Garrison, Jensen/Gaunce and the 6th pick be a better offer than what the leaves' are allegedly offering? I think the Canucks might have to add more .....

I'd be more comfortable dealing Tanev or Corrado plus say Hansen (or similar plug and play forward) + #6 pick for # pick than putting Jensen or Gaunce in that deal. Jensen had his first real burst on to the scene, and shows real potential as a sniper, and Gaunce has been buried in depth chart by Horvat, but I suspect Benning will want to keep him, a big body, young guy who could be perfect for the 3rd line role - smart player, not maybe a top 6 guy but if you got Reinhart, and had Reinhart, Horvat, Guance down the middle for the next 5-10 years, that could be a bright future.

Betamax wrote:

nuckster wrote:

Gary Mason was on the TEAM1040. (Vancouver Radio) and said that 3 senior NHL scouts say Benning going hard after the #1 pick to take Reinhart.

If this is true... really true, then I'm excited; excited about the potential and the future. BUT, having said this, what is the true status of Reinhart?? Is he really the player that he is purported to be?

Anyway, on the TSN Radio in Toronto, there was some rumor talk about them putting up a package for the No. 1 pick that would involve Phaneuf, Kadri and their 8th pick for Jovo and the No. 1 pick.

As an objective 3rd party, would a Garrison, Jensen/Gaunce and the 6th pick be a better offer than what the leaves' are allegedly offering? I think the Canucks might have to add more .....

Problem with the 8th pick is Florida's preferred choice Nylander and probably even Ehlers will in all likelihood be drafted by then.

#6 is the sweet spot to get Nylander just right outside the top 5.

SKYO wrote:

Betamax wrote: Anyway, on the TSN Radio in Toronto, there was some rumor talk about them putting up a package for the No. 1 pick that would involve Phaneuf, Kadri and their 8th pick for Jovo and the No. 1 pick.

As an objective 3rd party, would a Garrison, Jensen/Gaunce and the 6th pick be a better offer than what the leaves' are allegedly offering? I think the Canucks might have to add more .....

Problem with the 8th pick is Florida's preferred choice Nylander and probably even Ehlers will in all likelihood be drafted by then.

#6 is the sweet spot to get Nylander just right outside the top 5.

Tallon gets orgasmic when he talks about Ehlers.

Ehlers could be gone by the time the 8th pick rolls around.

So IF Tallon wants him, I'm sure he'd be more inclined to strike a deal with the Canucks.

6th > 8th amirite?

Having said that I don't believe the Phaneuf+Kadri+8th "rumour".

6th + Garrison + Higgins/Hansen is as high as I'd go.

(Tallon has stated his team needs vets right now to lead their wealth of youngsters)

(lots of love for Garrison in Florida still, and some say Garry left his heart in Florida)

Strangelove wrote:

SKYO wrote:

Betamax wrote: Anyway, on the TSN Radio in Toronto, there was some rumor talk about them putting up a package for the No. 1 pick that would involve Phaneuf, Kadri and their 8th pick for Jovo and the No. 1 pick.

As an objective 3rd party, would a Garrison, Jensen/Gaunce and the 6th pick be a better offer than what the leaves' are allegedly offering? I think the Canucks might have to add more .....

Problem with the 8th pick is Florida's preferred choice Nylander and probably even Ehlers will in all likelihood be drafted by then.

#6 is the sweet spot to get Nylander just right outside the top 5.

Tallon gets orgasmic when he talks about Ehlers.

Ehlers could be gone by the time the 8th pick rolls around.

So IF Tallon wants him, I'm sure he'd be more inclined to strike a deal with the Canucks.

6th > 8th amirite?

Having said that I don't believe the Phaneuf+Kadri+8th "rumour".

6th + Garrison + Higgins/Hansen is as high as I'd go.

(Tallon has stated his team needs vets right now to lead their wealth of youngsters)

(lots of love for Garrison in Florida still, and some say Garry left his heart in Florida)

No doubt, Tallon knows if he doesn't get help for his young guns asap they'll be like the Oilers..and no team wants that. *shudders*

Higgins and Hansen, Doc? We'd be lucky to get a bag of pucks for those two in the trade market as those two useless tweeners are just as easily replaced in the open UFA market without losing any assets. They are filler players, no real value, shit a player on the farm could have as much affect as those two. Garrison? Holy hell man.The Canucks will have to give up something we won't want to give up if we want to be a player for Florida's 1st, bottom line. With Edler not willing to waive as he just bought a house and with his woman about to give birth to child, who do we have to spare that is a worthy enough asset to wet Tallons palette? Nothing. Unless we start talking about Horvat, Kassian or Tanev. Thats how badly ole players agent depleted the depth of this team.

The only way we get the parts for Florida's 1st is by using some assets received in a possible Kesler trade. It's the only way. I just don't see us parting with Kassian, Horvat or Tanev, nor do I want to.

The Islanders, Oilers and Panthers need to start winning. Fortunately for us, Kevin Lowe lives for high draft picks and loves tanking cause he still thinks he can recreate the Gretzky era in Edmonton again.

The Islanders should be totally open for business but thanks to ole players agent making like a players agent and taking care of his players with NTC's, the likes of Kesler will not waive to got their. Same goes for Florida.

Mondi wrote:Hansen and Corrado have limited value.

Tanev has some.

Going from #6 to #1 will take more than those players plus our pick.

Agree

Dude, I know Garrison/Higgins/Hansen just happen to be 3 guys you look down your nose at

... but they do have value around the league.

And all 3 are signed a lot cheaper than you'd get as UFAs this summer

(Cap going up, TONS of money available).

And don't forget we're taking back Jovo (cap-dump) in this deal!

I dunno, switch Higgins/Hansen with Jensen?

Or throw in our 2rd/3rd rounder (get a pick back in a secondary trade)

We're talking about moving up 5 spots.

No way is that gonna cost a top 4 dee PLUS a Horvat/Kassian.

From what I read, most Panther fans who would consider such a trade want Garrison.

THEY love him a helluva lot more than YOU do.

(they'd rather have him than Tanev)

They WANT him, he was awesome for them (they're not going to land a UFA anything like him).

6th + Garrison + Jensen/Higgins/Hansen/2nd gets 'er done for sure Dude.

1st + Jovo.

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Boston Canucker wrote:I'd be more comfortable dealing Tanev or Corrado plus say Hansen (or similar plug and play forward) + #6 pick for # pick than putting Jensen or Gaunce in that deal. Jensen had his first real burst on to the scene, and shows real potential as a sniper, and Gaunce has been buried in depth chart by Horvat, but I suspect Benning will want to keep him, a big body, young guy who could be perfect for the 3rd line role - smart player, not maybe a top 6 guy but if you got Reinhart, and had Reinhart, Horvat, Guance down the middle for the next 5-10 years, that could be a bright future.

Uh, the gap in age on defense to NHL potential/capable players is greater on D than it is with F, so I'd rather them move a Jensen or Gaunce over a Tanev (especially, since he's proven he can play in the NHL).

Regarding Gaunce, according to Botchford, they project him to be a bottom six winger, see https://twitter.com/botchford/status/474642365752160257

"Garrison might have more value than Edler" - Strangelove. ROTFLMAO

RoyalDude wrote:The Islanders, Oilers and Panthers need to start winning. Fortunately for us, Kevin Lowe lives for high draft picks and loves tanking cause he still thinks he can recreate the Gretzky era in Edmonton again.

The Islanders should be totally open for business but thanks to ole players agent making like a players agent and taking care of his players with NTC's, the likes of Kesler will not waive to got their. Same goes for Florida.

I wonder if Kesler would waive his NTC to go to the NYR? Even with his issues with AV, the fact that they made it to the SC Finals might open his eyes ... let alone the potential endorsement opportunities that NYC can bring.

Why not Hamhuis instead of Garrison or Edler? Tanev is most like Hamhuis and could take up that spot rather than Edler's or Garrison's.