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SKYO wrote:
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SKYO wrote: Why I want to move up to at least the #5 spot, I think we could realistically make a trade with the NYI swapping picks, with us adding a roster player as they really want to win next season and so their 2015 pick won't be in lottery contention for Buffalo next year.

#5 you're guaranteed one of MDC or Draisaitl, and not as likely but possibly even Bennett if Edm is serious about the big german and burkie/flames go for the powerforward MDC.
Why even bother with any of those guys when the most explosive offensive player available, Nylander should fall into the Canucks' hands @ 6th overall ..... if they don't trade the pick for Myers ..... 8-)
I wouldn't mind Nylander however it appears TL/Gilman will in all likelihood draft a big player.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/ ... draft-2014

By Corey Pronman | ESPN Insider rates Nylander as the third best player available after Ekblad and Bennett.
3. William Nylander | RW | Modo (SHL)
DOB: 5/1/96 | 2013-14 stats: 22 GP, 1 G, 6 A, 6 PIM

The son of longtime NHLer Michael Nylander may be the most gifted pure offensive talent in the draft. William had a so-so first half when he struggled to find a role, but had a tremendous second half. Because of that turnaround, I've heard NHL scouts rank him anywhere from No. 2 overall to the 20s. He was over a point per game pace with Sodertalje in the SHL-2, setting a season record for points by an under-18 player, and played around 20 minutes per game with Modo down the stretch. Nylander's pucks skills are elite, as he can be described as "an artist" by some scouts in terms of how well he controls the puck, and the unique plays he makes. Nylander's hockey sense is fantastic as well, in terms of his vision, and offensive intellect. You combine that with a pretty good top gear and Nylander can create all sorts of havoc offensively. Nylander can deke a defender out, make a highlight-reel pass, speed by players. He's not the biggest guy (5-11, 181 pounds), his defensive play needs work, and he can try to do too much sometimes.

Ranking explanation: Nylander has a better skill level than Reinhart, but Reinhart is better physically, and worlds better defensively. Nylander has more upside than Reinhart, but carries more risk in terms of his all-around game. Reinhart's probably a better player right now, but Nylander is in his 17-year-old season (as compared to Reinhart being in his 18-year-old season) and Nylander seems to have more room to grow. For the latter reason, being that I think he has so much upside, and it's easier to close the gap defensively than offensively for an under-20 player, I give the edge to Nylander.
You should take comfort that Corey Pronman is also a member of hfboards!

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LoL hey I was the first to put Nylander on the map across Canucks country so your preaching to choir man.

Nylander will be a talent no doubt, its too bad swedes take like 5 years to develop though, I'd much rather go for a faster impactful type of player like Reinhart or Draisaitl or MDC, these guys should be key factors in a championship series and they'll be ready to play either next season or the season after, so we gotta find a way to trade up!
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There is always the Filatov factor with slight skilled Europeans like Nylander and Ehlers, then again, there is always the Stojanov factor with guys like Ritchie. When in doubt I'd still take the big Canadians like Ritchie or Virtanen over the slight, skilled Europeans. Fuckin roll the dice see what comes, picking 6 is a crap shoot, either way we should be getting a good prospect
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Virtanen is out 4-6 months after shoulder surgery. Yikes. Surely that will hurt is draft value.
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herb wrote:Virtanen is out 4-6 months after shoulder surgery. Yikes. Surely that will hurt is draft value.
I imagine he will still be drafted between 6-12. He's not NHL ready next season, and it's not like he's the first prospect to go through surgery.
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' Isles will be keeping their 2014 1st-round pick and will send 2015 1st to Sabres to complete Thomas Vanek deal. Announcement to come. '

So the Islanders have to be competitive next season, wonder if we can unload a roster player, so they can compete and we clear some cap/roster space, to the Islanders along with our #6 to get their #5? :?:
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SKYO wrote:' Isles will be keeping their 2014 1st-round pick and will send 2015 1st to Sabres to complete Thomas Vanek deal. Announcement to come. '

So the Islanders have to be competitive next season, wonder if we can unload a roster player, so they can compete and we clear some cap/roster space, to the Islanders along with our #6 to get their #5? :?:
Man, Garth Snow is an idiot. By no accounts is this deemed to be a deep draft. He is gambling like crazy on next year. Good point, he could be rife for a trade pillage if he needs to grab some vets to keep his team as far away from a high pick as possible.
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herb wrote:Virtanen is out 4-6 months after shoulder surgery. Yikes. Surely that will hurt is draft value.
At least it is not a concussion.
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Boston Canucker wrote:
SKYO wrote:' Isles will be keeping their 2014 1st-round pick and will send 2015 1st to Sabres to complete Thomas Vanek deal. Announcement to come. '

So the Islanders have to be competitive next season, wonder if we can unload a roster player, so they can compete and we clear some cap/roster space, to the Islanders along with our #6 to get their #5? :?:
Man, Garth Snow is an idiot. By no accounts is this deemed to be a deep draft. He is gambling like crazy on next year. Good point, he could be rife for a trade pillage if he needs to grab some vets to keep his team as far away from a high pick as possible.
Well, with a healthy Tavares and Halak locked up for four more years, along with natural development from his own prospects, the Islanders should be a better team next season.
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Topper wrote:
herb wrote:Virtanen is out 4-6 months after shoulder surgery. Yikes. Surely that will hurt is draft value.
At least it is not a concussion.
:lol:

At least he didn't die after getting drafted in the top 10.

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Island Nucklehead wrote:
Boston Canucker wrote:
SKYO wrote:' Isles will be keeping their 2014 1st-round pick and will send 2015 1st to Sabres to complete Thomas Vanek deal. Announcement to come. '

So the Islanders have to be competitive next season, wonder if we can unload a roster player, so they can compete and we clear some cap/roster space, to the Islanders along with our #6 to get their #5? :?:
Man, Garth Snow is an idiot. By no accounts is this deemed to be a deep draft. He is gambling like crazy on next year. Good point, he could be rife for a trade pillage if he needs to grab some vets to keep his team as far away from a high pick as possible.
Well, with a healthy Tavares and Halak locked up for four more years, along with natural development from his own prospects, the Islanders should be a better team next season.
Possibly so, and it likely motivated him to get Halak's name on the dotted line. It may be that he simply can't give the Sabres the '14 pick b/c it tells the team and the fans he does not have confidence in next year's club. In that sense, Snow is less of an idiot for not giving up the pick now (although I think that's a mistake) than for that moronic Vanek deal in the first place...man, what a dope.
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reading over rumours on hf about which teams are interested in who, with scouts, gm's, sources saying info..

Florida - Nylander, Ehlers (why they wouldn't mind trading down)

Buffalo - Ekblad or Reinhart or smokescreen Draisaitl

Edm - Draisaitl, Bennett, Reinhart, Ekblad

Flames - Bennett - MDC - Ritchie - Reinhart or smokescreen Draisaitl,
rumours maybe Burkie wanting his big dman he always tries to get ala Pronger, going after #1 to get top dman Ekblad.

Kings - McKeown , Scherbak

Ducks - Ehlers, Milano

Jets - Virtanen

NYR - Scherbak

Habs - Scherbak

Yotes - Fabbri, Barbashev, Kapanen

leaves - Nylander, Ritchie
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With amateur hockey seasons and the NHL Combine completed, ISS Hockey has released its final pre-draft rankings in the 2014 ISS NHL Draft Guide. Bigger and better than ever, the industry-leading guide provides the most comprehensive analysis and preview of the upcoming NHL Draft.







June 3, 2014 [Guelph, ON] ISS Hockey announces the release of its final player rankings for the upcoming NHL Draft to be held on June 27-28, 2014 in Philadelphia. The rankings are featured in the newly released 2014 ISS NHL Draft Guide.

The industry leading ISS NHL Draft Guide provides the most comprehensive analysis and preview of the NHL Draft. Bigger and Better than ever with over 150 pages, the guide features:

▪ Rankings of the top 220 NHL draft eligible prospects, as determined by ISS Hockey’s worldwide scouting staff, including rankings by positions

▪ Detailed Scouting Reports for all ranked prospects, including grading of skills, analysis of strengths & weaknesses, NHL potential, NHL player comparisons, scout comments, and more

▪ Historical Draft and System Analysis for each NHL team, analyzing past drafts and free agency outlooks

▪ Picks of the top Wildcards & Sleepers in the draft, those players who are not highly rated, but ISS feels are likely to develop into impact players in the future

▪ Top 5 players in 14 categories – Skating, Puck Handling, Scoring, Playmaking, Toughness, Offensive Defenseman, Defensive Defenseman, Faceoffs, Best Little Guy, Defensive Forward, Puck Protection, Hardest Shot, Under Rated, and Over Rated

▪ ISS Mock Draft, as picked by the consensus of ISS Hockey’s scouts

▪ An outlook on the next two NHL Drafts, with rankings of the Top 50 prospects for 2015 and Top 30 prospects for 2016



ISS Hockey’s scouting information and the technology tools provided by ISS parent company HockeyTech are vital tools used by NHL teams in their day-to-day evaluations of prospects and players. For hockey fans and fantasy players, the ISS NHL Draft Guide has become the “bible” for providing the vital information needed to truly understand the NHL Draft from the eyes of professional scouts and NHL GMs. ISS scouts have been tracking the prospects eligible for the NHL Draft for years (typically from the age of fourteen), so they have unique knowledge of the strengths, weaknesses and probabilities for success at the NHL level for these young men.

The hockey media also relies upon the ISS Hockey rankings in their coverage of draft prospects. The Hockey News features ISS information in their just released annual Draft Preview edition. TSN publishes ISS rankings monthly and includes ISS rankings in their on TV coverage of draft prospects.

While ISS Hockey scouting information is exclusively available to professional and elite amateur teams all season, the ISS NHL Draft Guide is the only annual opportunity for fans to “Get What the Pros Use!” To order or get more info, go to: http://ISShockey.com/nhldraftguide

Below is the Final ISS Top 30, highlighting the final rankings of the top 30 prospects for the NHL Draft.



ISS Hockey Final Ranked Prospects For 2014 NHL Draft
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League
1 Reinhart, Sam C 11/6/1995 R 6.00.75 185 Kootenay WHL
2 Ekblad, Aaron D 2/7/1996 R 6.03.5 216 Barrie OHL
3 Dal Colle, Michael C 6/20/1996 L 6.01.5 182 Oshawa OHL
4 Bennett, Sam C 6/20/1996 L 6.00.25 178 Kingston OHL
5 Nylander, William RW 5/1/1996 R 5.11 176 Modo SweE
6 Draisaitl, Leon C 10/27/1995 L 6.01.5 204 Prince Albert WHL
7 Virtanen, Jake RW 8/17/1996 R 6.00.75 208 Calgary WHL
8 Fabbri, Robby C 1/22/1996 L 5.10.25 170 Guelph OHL
9 Perlini, Brendan LW 4/27/1996 L 6.02.75 205 Niagara OHL
10 Ritchie, Nicholas LW 12/5/1995 L 6.02.25 226 Peterborough OHL
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Is anybody else depressed that this years draftees were born two years after the Canucks trip to the final in '94?

I'm starting to worry that the Canucks won't win a cup before I die (and I'm only 35). :hmmm:
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BingoTough wrote:Is anybody else depressed that this years draftees were born two years after the Canucks trip to the final in '94?

I'm starting to worry that the Canucks won't win a cup before I die (and I'm only 35). :hmmm:
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