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Hockey Widow wrote:So a team acquiring them not only has to have cap room for 14 million prorated this year but full hit next as well. Oh, and since they have full NMC they must be protected in the expansion draft which means the acquiring team can't protect two other players. And to top it off I suppose we will want a shit load of assets back.
I heard this mentioned somewhere b4, but at this rate, maybe we leave the twins unprotected in the expansion draft. :hmmm:
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Todd Bersnoozi wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:So a team acquiring them not only has to have cap room for 14 million prorated this year but full hit next as well. Oh, and since they have full NMC they must be protected in the expansion draft which means the acquiring team can't protect two other players. And to top it off I suppose we will want a shit load of assets back.
I heard this mentioned somewhere b4, but at this rate, maybe we leave the twins unprotected in the expansion draft. :hmmm:
We can't. NMC means they have to be protected.
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Mëds wrote:
Todd Bersnoozi wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:So a team acquiring them not only has to have cap room for 14 million prorated this year but full hit next as well. Oh, and since they have full NMC they must be protected in the expansion draft which means the acquiring team can't protect two other players. And to top it off I suppose we will want a shit load of assets back.
I heard this mentioned somewhere b4, but at this rate, maybe we leave the twins unprotected in the expansion draft. :hmmm:
We can't. NMC means they have to be protected.
Can't they waive their NMC?
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vic wrote:
Mëds wrote:
Todd Bersnoozi wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:So a team acquiring them not only has to have cap room for 14 million prorated this year but full hit next as well. Oh, and since they have full NMC they must be protected in the expansion draft which means the acquiring team can't protect two other players. And to top it off I suppose we will want a shit load of assets back.
I heard this mentioned somewhere b4, but at this rate, maybe we leave the twins unprotected in the expansion draft. :hmmm:
We can't. NMC means they have to be protected.
Can't they waive their NMC?
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Ya Vic they can waive. But why would they since only one can be selected? Of course from a strategic point of view, since it's unlikely Vegas would pick one, you could gamble and ask them to waive so you can protect two other players. But it won't happen.
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Hockey Widow wrote:Ya Vic they can waive. But why would they since only one can be selected? Of course from a strategic point of view, since it's unlikely Vegas would pick one, you could gamble and ask them to waive so you can protect two other players. But it won't happen.
Let Vegas pick one and trade them the other for a first :lol:

But seriously, they aren't going anywhere unless they want to.
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Hockey Widow wrote:So a team acquiring them not only has to have cap room for 14 million prorated this year but full hit next as well. Oh, and since they have full NMC they must be protected in the expansion draft which means the acquiring team can't protect two other players. And to top it off I suppose we will want a shit load of assets back.
Those are just details

If the Sedins are on the market there's going to a landing spot for them. It just takes will.
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Pretty soon that will be the Swedish Beer League. ;)
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Henrik Sedin has already said they'd be willing to move to a contender if the Canucks are out of contention - I believe he noted this would be fine around TDD in their final year. This would be a very feasible get for a contender and wouldn't be a gigantic hit to the cap.

I feel Benning needs to make this happen and gain as many assets as possible. The Canucks have some very good prospects in the pipeline but these guys don't always turn into NHL stars.
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That kind of BOLD MOVE would inject Canuck life back into this city. But with a President like our multi-tasker uptowner with his fancy suits, Club 16's, double income no kids, eternal youth lifestyle, that kind of Shanahan, focus, gonads and vision ain't ever gonna happen. The Man, The Myth, The Legend...was that how it went Paddy?

Trading the Sedins is not a Benning decision, that's a Paradigm Shift! That's a discussion between the Club 16 Politician (man about town) and the Silver Spooned Real Estate Moguls, and you just know how whimpy of a conversation that would be between those two surface scratching parties.

Remember with Linden "C" stands for Community,' not Canucks. The Community has brought great post hockey financial rewards to the loveable Linden. I'm sure he will run for office one day. Shake hands, smile and wave, and don't forget to vote!

Where is Pat Quinn when you need him? He's the kind of guy we need to pick up those 3 Aqualini kids by the scruff of the necks and bang their heads together like they are the 3 stooges, all the while Pats chewing on his stogie with a pint of guiness in front of him at the boardroom table
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Long, long ago, I was absolutely chastised and ridiculed by my hockey friends.

At the end of the 2011/2012 season when we, once again, won the President's Trophy, but were knocked out in the first playoff round, I said:

We need to trade the Sedins and go with a bigger, faster team. Maybe I was a year early, maybe not but the point is, It's taken this long for the general fan base to catch on to what's needed and guess what?
That's the same hockey IQ that Aqullini has and at the end of the day, that's what he is, A FAN.
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In hindsight a full gut rebuild should have started after the 2011-2012 season, the product was dead at that point.

This organization is heading backwards to that ugly era of Canuck hockey prior to the fat drunken Irishman - QUINN taking a blow torch to the organization. Community Legend - Trevor Linden, the town mayor, is helping to speed up that process.

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RoyalDude wrote:In hindsight a full gut rebuild should have started after the 2011-2012 season, the product was dead at that point.
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True,and now they are paying for it! With all the trades trying to rekindle 2011`s core & bad draft picks it has now caught up to the club. Sedins should be the secondary scoring at this point of their careers. But with no one to take over they are relied upon too much (as usual) and anyone
who thinks they're going to be traded needs to pull their head out of their ass. No club has 14 million cap space,and if they did they wouldn't be dropping it on the Sedins.

They got probably 1 player in last years draft that will pan out for a roster spot. Do the math. At that rate this rebuild is going to take a long time.

Whats with the Linden hate? He's nothing more than a spokesman, and does that pretty well IMHO
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dangler wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:In hindsight a full gut rebuild should have started after the 2011-2012 season, the product was dead at that point.
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True,and now they are paying for it! With all the trades trying to rekindle 2011`s core & bad draft picks it has now caught up to the club. Sedins should be the secondary scoring at this point of their careers. But with no one to take over they are relied upon too much (as usual) and anyone
who thinks they're going to be traded needs to pull their head out of their ass. No club has 14 million cap space,and if they did they wouldn't be dropping it on the Sedins.

They got probably 1 player in last years draft that will pan out for a roster spot. Do the math. At that rate this rebuild is going to take a long time.

Whats with the Linden hate? He's nothing more than a spokesman, and does that pretty well IMHO
Lol,'that's like saying President Shanahan has nothing to do with what goes on in Toronto when it was Shanahan who convinced the ownership their to go full rebuild. It's Lindens job to come up with the mandate with the owners. Benning is given that mandate. That's what Presidents do, work with the owners as it's always the owners who make the last call. Trevor's job is to sell the owners on the direction he thinks the team should take. It's quite obvious the plan hasn't changed one bit since the Aqualinis have taken over. Same old same old
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Different scenarios Shannahon was hired first(before the gm & coach),hired his guys ,has a ownership board to answer to.
Linden was hired last (after the gm & coach) and has direct owners whom are also fans and understandedbly want a say in what happens to their investment on maybe a daily basis.
Trev does what he's told to do
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