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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:10 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Hockey Widow wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:39 am Crap micky. Juolevi hasn’t really had his first kick at the can. Sure he had last years camp, but that’s it. He ain’t had a sniff in the NHL. I think he will be an everyday NHLer. Just don’t know if that top, mid, or bottom pairing.
He’s been deemed healthy by the Canucks medical staff for three consecutive training camps. He didn’t come remotely close to making a horrendous blue line in any of those years. He certainly had a kick or three. Sure he has had some serious injuries. I think that he will take quite a while to get up to speed considering he hasn’t played since November and is coming off a serious knee surgery. This is a huge year for him and hopefully he has a good start in the AHL and forces management’s hand.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:44 am
by Lancer
I’ve heard of rumblings of discontent in Utica, with a lot of it being leveled at Cull. Apparently he’s more Tortorella than Green in his approach. Likes his gritty grinders over the skilled players.

I think if we have more rumblings and lack of progress from Benning’s picks, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cull sacked.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:57 am
by Chef Boi RD
Matthew Tkachuk - 9 playoff games - 2 goals 1 assist.

A hair better than playoff no shows - IIHF Nylander and Mason Ehlers

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:29 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Lancer wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:44 am I’ve heard of rumblings of discontent in Utica, with a lot of it being leveled at Cull. Apparently he’s more Tortorella than Green in his approach. Likes his gritty grinders over the skilled players.

I think if we have more rumblings and lack of progress from Benning’s picks, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cull sacked.
The whole development system should be called into question. Other than Hughes, Petterson and Boeser who were all too good to play for Utica, who exactly has developed playing there? Adam Gaudette?

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:06 am
by Mickey107
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Comet's staff; http://www.uticacomets.com/team/hockey-operations

Roster;http://www.uticacomets.com/roster/ . A little light yet.

Trent Cull; http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... p?pid=1185 Something a little more dynamic maybe?

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:34 am
by Cousin Strawberry
RoyalDude wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:57 am Matthew Tkachuk - 9 playoff games - 2 goals 1 assist.

A hair better than playoff no shows - IIHF Nylander and Mason Ehlers
I was fairly suprised how ineffective he ended up being. I dont really think that continues as the guy can play and is only 21 but how was he neutered? Net prescence types usually do well when fancy shit doesnt...like the playoffs

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:35 am
by Strangelove
Uncle dans leg wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:34 am
RoyalDude wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:57 am Matthew Tkachuk - 9 playoff games - 2 goals 1 assist.

A hair better than playoff no shows - IIHF Nylander and Mason Ehlers
I was fairly suprised how ineffective he ended up being. I dont really think that continues as the guy can play and is only 21 but how was he neutered? Net prescence types usually do well when fancy shit doesnt...like the playoffs
His fake-toughness gets exposed in the playoffs...

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:39 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Strangelove wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:35 am
Uncle dans leg wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:34 am
RoyalDude wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:57 am Matthew Tkachuk - 9 playoff games - 2 goals 1 assist.

A hair better than playoff no shows - IIHF Nylander and Mason Ehlers
I was fairly suprised how ineffective he ended up being. I dont really think that continues as the guy can play and is only 21 but how was he neutered? Net prescence types usually do well when fancy shit doesnt...like the playoffs
His fake-toughness gets exposed in the playoffs...
100% Doc!

The league lost respect for his Turtling against Kassian. Roussel didn’t Turtle, but the Turtle turtled.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:41 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Uncle dans leg wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:34 am
RoyalDude wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:57 am Matthew Tkachuk - 9 playoff games - 2 goals 1 assist.

A hair better than playoff no shows - IIHF Nylander and Mason Ehlers
I was fairly suprised how ineffective he ended up being. I dont really think that continues as the guy can play and is only 21 but how was he neutered? Net prescence types usually do well when fancy shit doesnt...like the playoffs
Gaudreau was a bum, too. The two of them, are not winners. When the going gets tough, the Turtle turtles and the hand waver Gaudreau shakes his hand in fake pain every time someone touches him, disgusting.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:58 pm
by Madcombinepilot
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:29 am
Lancer wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:44 am I’ve heard of rumblings of discontent in Utica, with a lot of it being leveled at Cull. Apparently he’s more Tortorella than Green in his approach. Likes his gritty grinders over the skilled players.

I think if we have more rumblings and lack of progress from Benning’s picks, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cull sacked.
The whole development system should be called into question. Other than Hughes, Petterson and Boeser who were all too good to play for Utica, who exactly has developed playing there? Adam Gaudette?

It's honestly too soon to tell. Don't confuse a 'development issue' with 'lack of talent' issue.

2 years ago, there wasn't any prospects to develop. We are just starting to see it happen now with Sautner, Brisebois, Joulevi, Mac, Lind, etc..

Now, If feel we have nothing in another year, we may have a decent argument for overhauling the system.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:01 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Today johnny goodenough was squirting on about how Lucic will push them over the edge :lol:

I sure hope they dress him on their top line...theres another 8-10 points for the nucks right there

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:07 pm
by Mickey107
RoyalDude wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:41 pm
Uncle dans leg wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:34 am
RoyalDude wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:57 am Matthew Tkachuk - 9 playoff games - 2 goals 1 assist.

A hair better than playoff no shows - IIHF Nylander and Mason Ehlers
I was fairly suprised how ineffective he ended up being. I dont really think that continues as the guy can play and is only 21 but how was he neutered? Net prescence types usually do well when fancy shit doesnt...like the playoffs
Gaudreau was a bum, too. The two of them, are not winners. When the going gets tough, the Turtle turtles and the hand waver Gaudreau shakes his hand in fake pain every time someone touches him, disgusting.
They won it with Lanny, they got to the finals with Jarome. Now Lucic>>>>>right idea but way too late. Where's the Beef ?

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:10 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Madcombinepilot wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:58 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:29 am
Lancer wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:44 am I’ve heard of rumblings of discontent in Utica, with a lot of it being leveled at Cull. Apparently he’s more Tortorella than Green in his approach. Likes his gritty grinders over the skilled players.

I think if we have more rumblings and lack of progress from Benning’s picks, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cull sacked.
The whole development system should be called into question. Other than Hughes, Petterson and Boeser who were all too good to play for Utica, who exactly has developed playing there? Adam Gaudette?

It's honestly too soon to tell. Don't confuse a 'development issue' with 'lack of talent' issue.

2 years ago, there wasn't any prospects to develop. We are just starting to see it happen now with Sautner, Brisebois, Joulevi, Mac, Lind, etc..

Now, If feel we have nothing in another year, we may have a decent argument for overhauling the system.
I’m not confusing anything. Benning has had six drafts. He’s managed to get three good youngsters onto the main team and one guy Gaudette who may or may not be good enough to play in Vancouver this year. Personally I’d throw him into the deep end and guillotine Sutter. Gaudette can’t be much worse than Birdbones. Not to beat a dead horse but keeping the extra 2nds and 3rds in 14/15/16 might have actually produced a couple more kids that came up through Utica.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:15 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Hes hit 3 home runs blob (its safe to assume Hughes counts as a homer)

Theyre all tip top talents and I'm pretty fuckin happy with the overall body of his draft day work in those 6 years. If you add premium assets like that rather than a bunch of safe but average pieces(base hits, doubles)...youre winning at drafting

This is the most optimistic ive been as a canucks fan since 1992-1995

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:19 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Uncle dans leg wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:15 pm Hes hit 3 home runs blob (its safe to assume Hughes counts as a homer)

Theyre all tip top talents and I'm pretty fuckin happy with the overall body of his draft day work in those 6 years. If you add premium assets like that rather than a bunch of safe but average pieces....youre winning at drafting

This is the most optimistic ive been as a canucks fan since 1992-1995
I’ve already acknowledged the big 3. But after that not a single regular. That speaks to the depth of the pipeline and the development or lack thereof. Again hoarding picks is smarter than puking them away for waiver wire type talent. Elmer seems to have finally clued in to that