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Lancer wrote:

Topper wrote:SJ bought in a sellers market, Vancouver sold in a buyers market.

So you would suggest that Benning should have held off until after the draft in order to get a better return on Lack? Was Brisebois worth more than what Benning may have got in next year's draft? I guess we'll see.

I'd still love to see that c*nt Wilson get inoperable colon cancer and Jones become a coke-snorting sieve.

Wouldn't that make the Bruins better? The 1st rounder could easily become first overall...

Holy cow... Lots of bodies changing homes.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie · 3m3 minutes ago
Morin, Tropp, Anisimov and Dano and 4th in 2016 for Saad, Paliotta and Alex Broadhurst. CBJ-CHI deal.

Jovocop wrote:Holy cow...

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Also hearing Brandon Saad to Columbus. wow, didn't see that coming

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports
RT @FriedgeHNIC Saad has been traded to CLB. as @reporterchris tweeted, Anisimov and Dano part of return.

Chicago gets it - don't fall in love with their players, keep a couple of core guys and the rest are expendable. They keep recycling their players to get younger and less expensive. Other teams, the canucks included, keep their players way too long and sign them to expensive contracts. That's not the way to keep competing in this league.

Diehard1 wrote:

Jovocop wrote:Holy cow...

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Also hearing Brandon Saad to Columbus. wow, didn't see that coming

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports
RT @FriedgeHNIC Saad has been traded to CLB. as @reporterchris tweeted, Anisimov and Dano part of return.

Chicago gets it - don't fall in love with their players, keep a couple of core guys and the rest are expendable. They keep recycling their players to get younger and less expensive. Other teams, the canucks included, keep their players way too long and sign them to expensive contracts. That's not the way to keep competing in this league.

Sorry but Saad is only 22.

Jovocop wrote:

Diehard1 wrote:

Jovocop wrote:Holy cow...

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Also hearing Brandon Saad to Columbus. wow, didn't see that coming

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports
RT @FriedgeHNIC Saad has been traded to CLB. as @reporterchris tweeted, Anisimov and Dano part of return.

Chicago gets it - don't fall in love with their players, keep a couple of core guys and the rest are expendable. They keep recycling their players to get younger and less expensive. Other teams, the canucks included, keep their players way too long and sign them to expensive contracts. That's not the way to keep competing in this league.

Sorry but Saad is only 22.

Don't care how old he is - I don't like the return necessarily but they did the same with Ladd, Byfuglien, Bersteeg, etc when they were around the same age. Recycle, draft and develop more guys. They'll just keep filling them in around their core and continue to compete.

Lancer wrote:

Topper wrote:SJ bought in a sellers market, Vancouver sold in a buyers market.

So you would suggest that Benning should have held off until after the draft in order to get a better return on Lack?

No

Diehard1 wrote: Don't care how old he is - I don't like the return necessarily but they did the same with Ladd, Byfuglien, Bersteeg, etc when they were around the same age. Recycle, draft and develop more guys. They'll just keep filling them in around their core and continue to compete.

Yeaaaaaaahhhh except the reason they can't keep Saad is because they have older guys like Sharp, Bickell and Hossa signed to long-term, high-cap deals.

Diehard1 wrote:

Jovocop wrote:Holy cow...

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Also hearing Brandon Saad to Columbus. wow, didn't see that coming

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports
RT @FriedgeHNIC Saad has been traded to CLB. as @reporterchris tweeted, Anisimov and Dano part of return.

Chicago gets it - don't fall in love with their players, keep a couple of core guys and the rest are expendable. They keep recycling their players to get younger and less expensive. Other teams, the canucks included, keep their players way too long and sign them to expensive contracts. That's not the way to keep competing in this league.

True ......but we can't trade the Biter...........but the Lack attack pack........OMG, what about KB3's feelings....butt, butt, butt Weber scored 1 goals......why was Erhoff not signed......

Did FEDEX teach the Blackhawks this?

BTW, the Canadiens dynasties were built similarly.

Diehard1 wrote: Chicago gets it - don't fall in love with their players, keep a couple of core guys and the rest are expendable.

True...and this is much easier to do when those couple of core guys are named Toews, Kane, and Keith.

gotta admit, again, I admire the way the Hawks do it. And Topper is right, we get way to attached and don't do the deals when we should.

On TSN yesterday,Aaron Ward was asked if he were rebuilding the Canucks what would he do. What he said was, I know it isn't popular but you take the guy with the most trade value, Edler, and you trade him for a hefty return. A coveted, big D man with good term and contract left. If we really want a rebuild we should not only be clearing out over the hill vets but getting something for players like Edler.

Problem is we are not rebuilding so we hang onto pieces of the core.

KeyserSoze wrote:

Diehard1 wrote: Chicago gets it - don't fall in love with their players, keep a couple of core guys and the rest are expendable.

True...and this is much easier to do when those couple of core guys are named Toews, Kane, and Keith.

Yup, all hall of famers down the road and like every cup team they got the Norris trophy type dman + Seabrook whose a beast.

Anyways I think the Canucks should be bold enough to trade expensive vets like the Hawks did with Ladd/Buff etc.

Ladd=Burrows, Buff=Bieksa.

Sign Vrbata for retirement contract for cheaper cap hit. (Hossa)
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- For Ladd hawks received a 2nd (Clendening) + prospect (Ivan Vishnevskiy)

- Buff was part of a huge cap dump trade:
Chicago Blackhawks traded Dustin Byfuglien, Ben Eager, Brent Sopel and Akim Aliu to the Atlanta Thrashers for Marty Reasoner, Jeremy Morin, Joey Crabb, a 1st and a 2nd round selection in 2010.

- Troy Brouwer for a 1st rounder.

Hawks seem to always have a nice balance of trading expensive vets for picks and down the line for their Cup runs they trade picks for players, or they move up or down the draft with all the picks they get from vets.

It also helps that they trade these players after Winn g the cup. They all looked good in their cup runs and so their value is higher. Like if Lack could have won the Calgary series we might have gotten a 2nd for him

Full details:
Brandon Saad, Paliotta and Broadhurst for Anisimov, Dano, Morin, Troop and a 4th round pick in 2016.


Looks like this is the return I didn't see if someone else posted it higher up in the discussion.

And I agree, the Hawks don't fall in love with anyone outside the core 5 guys.

Good and necessary way to go.

That's a whole pile of crappy players for Saad. Vancouver needs a break like this...

Uncle dans leg wrote:That's a whole pile of crappy players for Saad. Vancouver needs a break like this...

Anisimov is pretty decent, a 6'4 center - solid checker,

Dano is a talented young scoring winger it appears, he should do well on the wing for the hawks.