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Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:22 pm
by Chef Boi RD
What happens regarding whether Hughes stays or goes will be a pivotal moment in Canuck history. They will need to recognize early if he plans on testing free agency. If he does planning on walking to UFA status, we don’t stand a hope in hell in resigning him. Trade him
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:44 pm
by Meds
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:05 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:44 pm
All good points RG.
Thanks, but my analysis was incomplete.
Kevin Bieksa on HNIC just detailed another reason why Quinn Hughes would be reluctant to re-sign in Vancouver, although he didn't take that angle.
I didn't see it (and can't find it)......what was his angle?
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:40 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:22 pm
What happens regarding whether Hughes stays or goes will be a pivotal moment in Canuck history. They will need to recognize early if he plans on testing free agency. If he does planning on walking to UFA status, we don’t stand a hope in hell in resigning him. Trade him
This is real riveting shit right here folks. Real cutting edge
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:48 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:44 pm
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:05 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:44 pm
All good points RG.
Thanks, but my analysis was incomplete.
Kevin Bieksa on HNIC just detailed another reason why Quinn Hughes would be reluctant to re-sign in Vancouver, although he didn't take that angle.
I didn't see it (and can't find it)......what was his angle?
Hughes should be untouchable. Not in the trade sense, but in the sense that if anybody from another team takes liberties with Hughes, the offender should be answering to every other Canuck on the ice at that moment. Truculently, as the expression goes.
That doesn't happen. It doesn't happen so much that Elliotte Friedman (ffs !) is sick of watching it.
It's just another way that Hughes does not have the working conditions he should reasonably expect. If that doesn't change, I could scarcely blame him for preferring to work somewhere else.
QH is on a pace for another Norris Trophy season. I expect that right after it's announced would be when his trade value would be at its peak. I'd be surprised if management could actually get full value back, but unless you think that the Canucks can win a Cup in '25, '26, or '27 (I don't), it would be better than watching him walk for nothing.
Edit: again, unless one of you knows of some compelling reason why he
would resign in Vancouver.
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:51 pm
by Meds
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:48 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:44 pm
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:05 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:44 pm
All good points RG.
Thanks, but my analysis was incomplete.
Kevin Bieksa on HNIC just detailed another reason why Quinn Hughes would be reluctant to re-sign in Vancouver, although he didn't take that angle.
I didn't see it (and can't find it)......what was his angle?
Hughes should be untouchable. Not in the trade sense, but in the sense that if anybody from another team takes liberties with Hughes, the offender should be answering to every other Canuck on the ice at that moment. Truculently, as the expression goes.
That doesn't happen. It doesn't happen so much that Elliotte Friedman (ffs !) is sick of watching it.
It's just another way that Hughes does not have the working conditions he should reasonably expect. If that doesn't change, I could scarcely blame him for preferring to work somewhere else.
QH is on a pace for another Norris Trophy season. I expect that right after it's announced would be when his trade value would be at its peak. I'd be surprised if management could actually get full value back, but unless you think that the Canucks can win a Cup in '25, '26, or '27 (I don't), it would be better than watching him walk for nothing.
Edit: again, unless one of you knows of some compelling reason why he
would resign in Vancouver.
Oh ok..... I read that. Just didn't see Bieksa say that would be a reason Hughes might not want to stay.
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:11 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:48 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:44 pm
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:05 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:44 pm
All good points RG.
Thanks, but my analysis was incomplete.
Kevin Bieksa on HNIC just detailed another reason why Quinn Hughes would be reluctant to re-sign in Vancouver, although he didn't take that angle.
I didn't see it (and can't find it)......what was his angle?
Hughes should be untouchable. Not in the trade sense, but in the sense that if anybody from another team takes liberties with Hughes, the offender should be answering to every other Canuck on the ice at that moment. Truculently, as the expression goes.
That doesn't happen. It doesn't happen so much that Elliotte Friedman (ffs !) is sick of watching it.
It's just another way that Hughes does not have the working conditions he should reasonably expect. If that doesn't change, I could scarcely blame him for preferring to work somewhere else.
QH is on a pace for another Norris Trophy season. I expect that right after it's announced would be when his trade value would be at its peak. I'd be surprised if management could actually get full value back, but unless you think that the Canucks can win a Cup in '25, '26, or '27 (I don't), it would be better than watching him walk for nothing.
Edit: again, unless one of you knows of some compelling reason why he
would resign in Vancouver.
Canucks can offer 8 years. Other teams can't. Most players look at the total dollars on the table. So if Vancouver coughs up 120 million, thats 8 x 15. Another team has to go 7 x 17.14 million hit 120 million. He loves it here. He's the captain and this is a kid that has spent half his life in Canada. A burp of a season shouldn't be the straw that broke the camel's back despite 59 year old drywallers from the Crap Reserve running around like Chicken Littles drenched in urine.,
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:35 am
by Ronning's Ghost
Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:51 pm
Just didn't see Bieksa say that would be a reason Hughes might not want to stay.
He didn't. That was my inference.
That's what I was trying to explain with "...although he didn't take that angle".
Sorry, I guess that needed more context than I offered.
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:51 am
by Ronning's Ghost
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:11 pm
Most players look at the total dollars on the table. So if Vancouver coughs up 120 million, thats 8 x 15. Another team has to go 7 x 17.14 million hit 120 million.
And like I said, total dollars on the table are the total
after tax dollars on the table, which would be a smaller number of dollars playing here than in many other tax jurisdictions.
That, on the other hand, would be a great reason to believe that he would want to re-sign here and the Canucks could get a deal done -- maybe even a team-friendly, hometown discount kind of deal.
Do you know of any supporting details? (Enjoys rain, has grown attached to the views, loves the beach, has a string of dedicated puck bunnies, always dreamed of being captain of a team that wouldn't stick up for him... Whatever you got.)
I figure by now most pros know that they are supposed to tell the media that they love the city they play in, the fans, and the organization, and Quinn seems smarter than the average NHLer to me, so I won't find just a media quote very convincing. But it's still kind of a small world. Maybe somebody's sister plays checkers with Quinn's barber, and has heard some stuff.
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:07 am
by Chef Boi RD
The Hughes bros are close, trust the Chef’s recipes - the bro’s really like the idea of all playing together, the parents do as well. It’s going to be tough to distract Quinn from the idea of signing with Jersey after just two more seasons here. A lot of work needs to be done here. It’s looming like a big ass fart working it’s way down the colon.
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:16 am
by Cousin Strawberry
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:01 am
by Carl Yagro
Hughes turtle head starting to poke out...
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:10 pm
by MrG9002!
2 years to go. Let's worry about Christmas being just around the corner.
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:24 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:40 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:22 pm
What happens regarding whether Hughes stays or goes will be a pivotal moment in Canuck history. They will need to recognize early if he plans on testing free agency. If he does planning on walking to UFA status, we don’t stand a hope in hell in resigning him. Trade him
This is real riveting shit right here folks. Real cutting edge
It moves me as well
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:13 pm
by Zedlee
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:07 am
The Hughes bros are close, trust the Chef’s recipes - the bro’s really like the idea of all playing together, the parents do as well. It’s going to be tough to distract Quinn from the idea of signing with Jersey after just two more seasons here. A lot of work needs to be done here. It’s looming like a big ass fart working it’s way down the colon.
This. The Canucks had better start planning for the Hughes exit. Of course he'd love to play with his brothers...who wouldn't? The money probably matters less than people think. The 3 bros will make tonnes of dough during their careers anyway and how do you value playing with your bros? In a US market.
Clearly this core of players are not going to get it done. Time for a REBUILD. The rebuild that should have happened after Benning but never did.
Re: Quinn Hughes next contract
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:18 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Zedlee wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:13 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:07 am
The Hughes bros are close, trust the Chef’s recipes - the bro’s really like the idea of all playing together, the parents do as well. It’s going to be tough to distract Quinn from the idea of signing with Jersey after just two more seasons here. A lot of work needs to be done here. It’s looming like a big ass fart working it’s way down the colon.
This. The Canucks had better start planning for the Hughes exit. Of course he'd love to play with his brothers...who wouldn't? The money probably matters less than people think. The 3 bros will make tonnes of dough during their careers anyway and how do you value playing with your bros? In a US market.
Clearly this core of players are not going to get it done. Time for a REBUILD. The rebuild that should have happened after Benning but never did.
Zedlee, I think this is a bigger concern than people have yet to realize. Management has a short window to sort this mess out. I do believe Hughes is open to staying but that depends on how this management performs leading up to his UFA. Its a wait and see status. The clock is on.
