The Rebuild...

[Meds]

Well Eberle is apparently on the block right now. Edmonton would like to add another top four on D and trade Eberle now. But Eberle is not producing and is horrible in the D zone. But hey, why not trade Tanev for Eberle.

My masterplan of rebuilding I foresee that we will need a top LW that's 6'2 with the strength of Samson.

IF we can tank properly like the Pittsburgh Penguins did for Crosby-Malkin, Lightning for Lecavalier/Stamkos, Blackhawks for Toews/Kane, Edmonton for McDavid, leaves for Matthews, Vancouver Canucks for Patrick? why not us?

I'd suggest trading Tanev + Hansen for a younger big LW.

When Sedins retire.

(big guy LW) - (new #1C) - Boeser
Eriksson - Horvat - Virtanen
Baertschi - Sutter - Rodin
LaBate - Gaunce - Dorsett

Now that I can live with for sure.

Why does everyone think that Boeser is going to step right into a top-3 role?

The Oilers most certainly did NOT tank properly. Tanking should take a max 5 years from no playoffs to playoffs.

[SKYO]

Why does everyone think that Boeser is going to step right into a top-3 role?

Good point, but his point production is up there with a few well known US scorers, parise, okposo etc.

The Oilers most certainly did NOT tank properly. Tanking should take a max 5 years from no playoffs to playoffs.

Yup they were the trashiest of the trashiest - the most fucked up team in the NHL, well at least the Canadian teams.

But the Oilers tanked at the best time finally - like the American teams do I mean everyone knows the Penguins did with Crosby, and everyone knows the Sabres did with McEichel and the leaves with Matthews.

[Island Nucklehead]

Our best shot at rebuilding was this past draft and the hockey gawds screwed us over dropping us to 5th. If we could have held onto 1-4 we would have been able to fill a huge need.

I won't argue that another 1-2 high draft picks would help in a big way but it ain't gonna come by deliberate action. Keep in mind that Las Vegas gets into the lottery draft next year to boot. Tanking last year got us number 5 not number 1. Why hope/wish for a different result? You cannot count on getting a favourable draft position. Ask Buffalo, they got screwed out of McDavid, although Eichel was not a bad consolation prize.
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Did I miss something? I thought last year Benning held onto guys like Vrbata and Hamhuis in contract years, playing himself into a corner thanks to injuries and terrible play? I consider tanking to be an active strategy, one the Canucks actively tried to avoid.

Tanking teams don't hang on to all their veteran assets when some could be turned into youth. This year we only have 5 picks, and I'm really wondering what performance clauses Larsen has to meet in order for our 5th to become a 4th for the Oilers. Thus far, he ain't even worth the 5th. We also have no 6th thanks to Emerson Etem. But hey, maybe this is the year Columbus thanks us for Torts...

Burrows might not have much value for us, but Hansen would. He's got another year left on a sweet deal, he's 30. Are the Canucks really going to re-sign him at 32? Him and Edler might be the only guy the Canucks would consider trading that have any value. Surely to Christ we have enough veteran foundational pieces like the Sedins, Sutter, Burrows, Dorsett, Tanev, Gudbranson, Miller and the $10M man Loui Eriksson.

[SKYO]

Our best shot at rebuilding was this past draft and the hockey gawds screwed us over dropping us to 5th. If we could have held onto 1-4 we would have been able to fill a huge need.

I won't argue that another 1-2 high draft picks would help in a big way but it ain't gonna come by deliberate action. Keep in mind that Las Vegas gets into the lottery draft next year to boot. Tanking last year got us number 5 not number 1. Why hope/wish for a different result? You cannot count on getting a favourable draft position. Ask Buffalo, they got screwed out of McDavid, although Eichel was not a bad consolation prize.
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Did I miss something? I thought last year Benning held onto guys like Vrbata and Hamhuis in contract years, playing himself into a corner thanks to injuries and terrible play? I consider tanking to be an active strategy, one the Canucks actively tried to avoid.

Tanking teams don't hang on to all their veteran assets when some could be turned into youth. This year we only have 5 picks, and I'm really wondering what performance clauses Larsen has to meet in order for our 5th to become a 4th for the Oilers. Thus far, he ain't even worth the 5th. We also have no 6th thanks to Emerson Etem. But hey, maybe this is the year Columbus thanks us for Torts...

Burrows might not have much value for us, but Hansen would. He's got another year left on a sweet deal, he's 30. Are the Canucks really going to re-sign him at 32? Him and Edler might be the only guy the Canucks would consider trading that have any value. Surely to Christ we have enough veteran foundational pieces like the Sedins, Sutter, Burrows, Dorsett, Tanev, Gudbranson, Miller and the $10M man Loui Eriksson.

Held onto Vrbata and Hamhuis??? are you trolling?

[vic]

Why does everyone think that Boeser is going to step right into a top-3 role?

Because that's what people do in Vancouver, Boeser needs to score 30+ goals his rookie year and be a finalist for the Calder otherwise he's a bust.

[Island Nucklehead]

Our best shot at rebuilding was this past draft and the hockey gawds screwed us over dropping us to 5th. If we could have held onto 1-4 we would have been able to fill a huge need.

I won't argue that another 1-2 high draft picks would help in a big way but it ain't gonna come by deliberate action. Keep in mind that Las Vegas gets into the lottery draft next year to boot. Tanking last year got us number 5 not number 1. Why hope/wish for a different result? You cannot count on getting a favourable draft position. Ask Buffalo, they got screwed out of McDavid, although Eichel was not a bad consolation prize.
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Did I miss something? I thought last year Benning held onto guys like Vrbata and Hamhuis in contract years, playing himself into a corner thanks to injuries and terrible play? I consider tanking to be an active strategy, one the Canucks actively tried to avoid.

Held onto Vrbata and Hamhuis??? are you trolling?

Wait, so you're telling me last season's deadline was just a nightmare, and both Hamhuis and Vrbata were traded for assets coming back? That's weird, for some reason I thought they remained with the team throughout the season and walked in the summer.

[ukcanuck]

This word tank....

It's a meaningless jargon word.

But if it's time to turn the page there is clearly only one card to play.

It's time to trade the Sedins.

They are still elite players who could, on the right team, make all the difference. For a team on the bubble between contender and champions, what would it be worth to have two rock solid world class hockey players injected into their top six this spring?

Two blue chip prospects and a two high round draft picks to add to the first round pick we will have coming this July?

Depending on the team it would amount to a Roberts for iginla x2

Sure it means a couple of seasons at the bottom of he standings but it's the bold move.


And yes I know it's fraught with many a tear and would have to be carefully managed salary cap wise for the receiving team .

But common let's be realistic. The Sedins are the only players we have worth more than a second or a third come deadline day.

[Cousin Strawberry]

It's time to trade the Sedins.

They're as close to untradeable as it gets. No contenders looking to add scoring will have what...14 mill in space lying around. Not to mention they're pretty close to washed up.
Sigh...the only chips we have anyone will actually pony up for are Hansen, Tanev or Edler and Alex will surely veto any trade request.

[Mickey107]

This word tank....

It's a meaningless jargon word.

But if it's time to turn the page there is clearly only one card to play.

It's time to trade the Sedins.

They are still elite players who could, on the right team, make all the difference. For a team on the bubble between contender and champions, what would it be worth to have two rock solid world class hockey players injected into their top six this spring?

Two blue chip prospects and a two high round draft picks to add to the first round pick we will have coming this July?

Depending on the team it would amount to a Roberts for iginla x2

Sure it means a couple of seasons at the bottom of he standings but it's the bold move.


And yes I know it's fraught with many a tear and would have to be carefully managed salary cap wise for the receiving team .

But common let's be realistic. The Sedins are the only players we have worth more than a second or a third come deadline day.

Great plan 2 or 3 years ago and even that would have been hard and probably splitting them up.

Every game now the slow skating is being seen by everyone.

Honestly, it was all over when GMMG ran off to Sweden and gave them the new contracts.

Spilt milk? yeah, now everyone sees it. Many didn't at the time.

This is one tough business and it takes hard love. Now we pay. Question is: Did we learn anything?

[Aaronp18]

It's time to trade the Sedins.

They're as close to untradeable as it gets. No contenders looking to add scoring will have what...14 mill in space lying around. Not to mention they're pretty close to washed up.
Sigh...the only chips we have anyone will actually pony up for are Hansen, Tanev or Edler and Alex will surely veto any trade request.

There are teams that could add the Sedin's at the deadline.

If I'm looking at Cap Friendly correctly at the deadline teams that could add the twins are (values are cap space at the deadline):
Nashville ~ $18.5M
Edmonton ~ $20M
Ottawa ~ $22.8M
Winnipeg ~ $34.3M
New Jersey ~ $37.6M
Florida ~ $40.3M
Carolina ~ $73.4M

There's probably a few more if we retained salary and/or took salary back. Namely, Boston and the NYR. Possibly even Dallas and Columbus.

So what teams would do this and would the Sedin's waive to be traded to?

There's AV in NY, Karlsson in Ottawa, maybe NJ because of Schneider??

Anything is possible, however unlikely it would be!

[Zedlee]

It's time to trade the Sedins.

They're as close to untradeable as it gets. No contenders looking to add scoring will have what...14 mill in space lying around. Not to mention they're pretty close to washed up.
Sigh...the only chips we have anyone will actually pony up for are Hansen, Tanev or Edler and Alex will surely veto any trade request.

Untradeable. But maybe if we have a crap year the Sedins will decide enough is enough and walk away from the final year of their contracts. Without them, we sink to the bottom of the league and get a good draft pick.

[2Fingers]

You retain half their salary and you should get a good deal back, easy for me to say as I don't pay the bill.

[Hockey Widow]

So a team acquiring them not only has to have cap room for 14 million prorated this year but full hit next as well. Oh, and since they have full NMC they must be protected in the expansion draft which means the acquiring team can't protect two other players. And to top it off I suppose we will want a shit load of assets back.

[2Fingers]

So a team acquiring them not only has to have cap room for 14 million prorated this year but full hit next as well. Oh, and since they have full NMC they must be protected in the expansion draft which means the acquiring team can't protect two other players. And to top it off I suppose we will want a shit load of assets back.

HW - this is all bs and what arm chair gm do, don't bring reality into this or the board becomes boring.

[Topper]

nhl lotto

What other choice is there to get a new #1 line?

The Sedins got a year left max, then we are left with Sutter, Horvat and Granlund as our centers.

So unless we can trade for a S. Reinhart or D. Strome soon, our best bet for a prosperous future is getting a high draft choice.

28 will get you 5