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Strangelove wrote:

Mëds wrote:Hey Doc,

Don't you just love how the Leaves are paying Phil Kessel $1.2M per year to (most likely) win back-to-back Cups in Pittsburgh? Brilliant management.

The best part is that they are going to be doing that until 2022! I wonder if they will really find that $1.2M valuable in a couple of years when it's time to give Matthews and Marner both a raise.....this after having to bump up the salary of Nylander the year before.

Absolutely brilliant.

mr perfect wrote:

You are delusional. Reilly and Gardiner are EASILY #1 and 2 on that Pens blue line.

BigTuna wrote: So even if Dermot and Nielson are "years" away, the leaves just drafted a RH franchise D at #17.

BigTuna wrote: Unbelievable. He was top 5 and ranked the top D at the draft before he got mono. Incredible break.

BigTuna wrote: There's no Auston Matthews without that trade and you know it.

BigTuna wrote: It worked out great for the leaves. They got Matthews, Kapanen and Andersen in that move.

Strangelove wrote:

BigTuna wrote: There's no Auston Matthews without that trade and you know it.

How in Hell (aka Toronto) did the Kessel trade have anything to do with winning the Matthews lottery?

Leaves had 68 points in 2014–15 with Kessel (did not win draft lottery)

Leaves had 69 points in 2015–16 without Kessel (did win draft lottery)

You should send a sample of that koolaid to the lab...

BigTuna wrote: It worked out great for the leaves. They got Matthews, Kapanen and Andersen in that move.

Kessel + 61st... for Kapanen + 30th + 72nd (all 2016 draft)

Andersen... for 30th (2016) + 50th (2017)

Kessel + capspace* = 2 Stanley Cups thus for for Pittsburgh.

(*Leaves agreed to retain $8.4M on that contract they gave Phabulous Phil)

They should engrave Lou Lamoriello's name on the last two Stanley Cups!

Strangelove wrote:

BigTuna wrote: So even if Dermot and Nielson are "years" away, the leaves just drafted a RH franchise D at #17.

franchise D

BTW neither Dermot nor Nielson have shown any indication of ever making it to the NHL...

BigTuna wrote: Unbelievable. He was top 5 and ranked the top D at the draft before he got mono. Incredible break.

So all those teams that passed on him are stupid?

Newsflash, the kid sucked down chunks last year...

BigTuna wrote:

Strangelove wrote:

BigTuna wrote: There's no Auston Matthews without that trade and you know it.

How in Hell (aka Toronto) did the Kessel trade have anything to do with winning the Matthews lottery?

Leaves had 68 points in 2014–15 with Kessel (did not win draft lottery)

Leaves had 69 points in 2015–16 without Kessel (did win draft lottery)

You should send a sample of that koolaid to the lab...

BigTuna wrote: It worked out great for the leaves. They got Matthews, Kapanen and Andersen in that move.

Kessel + 61st... for Kapanen + 30th + 72nd (all 2016 draft)

Andersen... for 30th (2016) + 50th (2017)

Kessel + capspace* = 2 Stanley Cups thus for for Pittsburgh.

(*Leaves agreed to retain $8.4M on that contract they gave Phabulous Phil)

They should engrave Lou Lamoriello's name on the last two Stanley Cups!

You just nit-pick any stats you, can don't you? In 2014-15', the leaves only had the 4th worst record in the entire NHL. They had terrible odds to get Mcdavid. In 2015-16, the leaves finished 30th overall. As a result, they had the best odds to get Matthews. It's not how many points to get, it's where you finish in the standings.
In 2015-16, the leaves lost the most 1 goal games of any NHL team. They finished just 1 point below Edmonton for 30th. You add a first line star winger in Kessel who never misses a game and there's no doubt they don't finish 30th and likely do not get Matthews.

Rocky Dennis wrote: Honestly, this might be the biggest load of happy horseshit that you have ever shoveled onto this board.

BigTuna wrote: What?
Do you not know how the draft lottery works? The leaves finished 27th in 14-15. 30th the next year despite actually having 1 more point.

BigTuna wrote:

Strangelove wrote:

BigTuna wrote: There's no Auston Matthews without that trade and you know it.

How in Hell (aka Toronto) did the Kessel trade have anything to do with winning the Matthews lottery?

Leaves had 68 points in 2014–15 with Kessel (did not win draft lottery)

Leaves had 69 points in 2015–16 without Kessel (did win draft lottery)

You should send a sample of that koolaid to the lab...

BigTuna wrote: It worked out great for the leaves. They got Matthews, Kapanen and Andersen in that move.

Kessel + 61st... for Kapanen + 30th + 72nd (all 2016 draft)

Andersen... for 30th (2016) + 50th (2017)

Kessel + capspace* = 2 Stanley Cups thus for for Pittsburgh.

(*Leaves agreed to retain $8.4M on that contract they gave Phabulous Phil)

They should engrave Lou Lamoriello's name on the last two Stanley Cups!

You just nit-pick any stats you, can don't you? In 2014-15', the leaves only had the 4th worst record in the entire NHL. They had terrible odds to get Mcdavid. In 2015-16, the leaves finished 30th overall. As a result, they had the best odds to get Matthews. It's not how many points to get, it's where you finish in the standings.
In 2015-16, the leaves lost the most 1 goal games of any NHL team. They finished just 1 point below Edmonton for 30th. You add a first line star winger in Kessel who never misses a game and there's no doubt they don't finish 30th and likely do not get Matthews.

BigTuna wrote:

Strangelove wrote:

BigTuna wrote: So even if Dermot and Nielson are "years" away, the leaves just drafted a RH franchise D at #17.

franchise D

BTW neither Dermot nor Nielson have shown any indication of ever making it to the NHL...

BigTuna wrote: Unbelievable. He was top 5 and ranked the top D at the draft before he got mono. Incredible break.

So all those teams that passed on him are stupid?

Newsflash, the kid sucked down chunks last year...

Yes.

Rocky Dennis wrote:

BigTuna wrote: What?
Do you not know how the draft lottery works? The leaves finished 27th in 14-15. 30th the next year despite actually having 1 more point.

I was refering to the spin that trading kessel got you matthews. A steaming pile.

Strangelove wrote:

BigTuna wrote:

Strangelove wrote:

BigTuna wrote: There's no Auston Matthews without that trade and you know it.

How in Hell (aka Toronto) did the Kessel trade have anything to do with winning the Matthews lottery?

Leaves had 68 points in 2014–15 with Kessel (did not win draft lottery)

Leaves had 69 points in 2015–16 without Kessel (did win draft lottery)

You should send a sample of that koolaid to the lab...

BigTuna wrote: It worked out great for the leaves. They got Matthews, Kapanen and Andersen in that move.

Kessel + 61st... for Kapanen + 30th + 72nd (all 2016 draft)

Andersen... for 30th (2016) + 50th (2017)

Kessel + capspace* = 2 Stanley Cups thus for for Pittsburgh.

(*Leaves agreed to retain $8.4M on that contract they gave Phabulous Phil)

They should engrave Lou Lamoriello's name on the last two Stanley Cups!

You just nit-pick any stats you, can don't you? In 2014-15', the leaves only had the 4th worst record in the entire NHL. They had terrible odds to get Mcdavid. In 2015-16, the leaves finished 30th overall. As a result, they had the best odds to get Matthews. It's not how many points to get, it's where you finish in the standings.
In 2015-16, the leaves lost the most 1 goal games of any NHL team. They finished just 1 point below Edmonton for 30th. You add a first line star winger in Kessel who never misses a game and there's no doubt they don't finish 30th and likely do not get Matthews.

Lol at the mental gymnastics!

Leaves 2014–15 goal differential: 51.

Leaves 2015–16 goal differential: 48.

Phil Kessel (aka Big Tuna) giveth and Phil Kessel (aka Big Tuna) taketh away.

I know you are trying to console yourself on losing your namesake

... but did you have to lay that steaming pile in our forum?

Trading Big Tuna had zero to do with where the pathetic Leaves finished in the standings.

Trading Big Tuna had zero to do with winning a draft lottery with only a 20% chance of so doing.

BigTuna wrote: Mike Babcock made the difference actually, That 15-16 team had a lot less talent. They became a better defensive and possession team.

BigTuna wrote:

Rocky Dennis wrote:

BigTuna wrote: What?
Do you not know how the draft lottery works? The leaves finished 27th in 14-15. 30th the next year despite actually having 1 more point.

I was refering to the spin that trading kessel got you matthews. A steaming pile.

So you don't think Kessel gets them 1 more win with those 26 1 goal losses? That's all ittook.