2025 Canucks Off-season

[Chef Boi RD]

Top two line players - Miller, Horvat, Boeser gone. And for what? Nothing on the top two lines.

Yeah - we get, Dude - you going to keep repeating this for reason, or move on to a new idea?

I’m intrigued by the thinking, somewhat baffled by it. Just trying to make sense of it all, the madness. Does it make sense to you? They’ve traded 3 first round picks in their tenure - one for Hronek, one for Zadorov, one for M. Pettersson and are rumored to be trading their 4th first rounder in 3 seasons as bosses, yet the team sucks, or should I say, is a .500 hockey team. It’s bananas!

Point of order: wasn't that 1st traded for Lindholm?

You are correct, my bad, still that’s 3 first round picks to date traded in three seasons by this regime. Yet we are digressing all the while. Will it be 4? I’m on pins and needles.

[Meds]

I'm feeling very tired. All the years of people clamouring to have the D fixed. Trading everyone and their uncle to improve the D. Now we have a solid D with good D prospects in the system. But lets start trading them to fix the forwards. It may happen. But what is needed is patience. I still can't get over how badly they fucked this up. One move, Pettersson to Carolina and the whole problem is fixed. They miscalculated and are now in a pickle. But please dont dismantle the D. You will create a hole on D again.


A couple of smart moves, bold moves and we can fix this. By bold I mean a Pettersson or Demko or Garland. Or all three. Jettison the core except for Hughes and start again. Let Demko's agent talk to teams about an extension. Get a fit and go for it. If he commits to an extension he is worth a top six centre plus. I still think Pettersson to Buffalo makes sense. We can get assets back. Garland same thing. Let him talk to teams and find a fit. We have until July 1st to do a sign and trade with Boeser. Or flip him for a 4th.

I have to believe Allvin is working on something. Perhaps blind faith and a lot of hope.

I completely agree with what you're saying Wids.....BUT.....

I think that the timing of all of this has fucked things beyond repair, and that the only true way to actually build something in Vancouver now is to blow this one up and start over.....that includes Hughes. It sucks, but it is what it is.

You cannot trade your way out of this mess without losing one of Hronek/Meaty/D-Petey, a prospect, and a 1st round pick, and possibly Demko.

The age of this group is now such that hitting a home-run on a trade is not enough, you need a grand slam.....which is not likely to happen with those above options.

I would make minor changes right now and look to the future. Next season, when we don't win the draft lottery again, I would look at moving Hughes for the 1OA and draft McKenna. Rebuild from the ground up.

[Picker of Cherries]

Silovs played 23 games in a row during the playoffs.
I think Demko is a better goalie right now, but if he were asked to play that workload, how long would he last? Maybe half of what Silovs did?

Considering his durability and that he needs a new, probably expensive contract, I think it is obvious they have to move Demko if they get a fair offer. Demko might have a better winning percentage, but he won't likely be available for as many games as Silovs.

Carry three goalies until someone loses their starter and is willing to pay a fair price.

[Chef Boi RD]

They are not blowing it up Mëds. Ain’t happening. We can only endure the madness. The madness that is - no long term plan but a plan of throwing shit at walls then fixing the mess you made then throw what little shit you have at walls and repeat….long term plan you propose? Both Gillis and Linden once proposed a “long term plan”, they were let go soon after.

[Chef Boi RD]

Silovs played 23 games in a row during the playoffs.
I think Demko is a better goalie right now, but if he were asked to play that workload, how long would he last? Maybe half of what Silovs did?

Considering his durability and that he needs a new, probably expensive contract, I think it is obvious they have to move Demko if they get a fair offer. Demko might have a better winning percentage, but he won't likely be available for as many games as Silovs.

Carry three goalies until someone loses their starter and is willing to pay a fair price.

A playoff contender in need of upgrading their goaltending may fancy the scenario of having a healthy Demko at the top of his game during the playoffs next season. I still believe that Demko is the chip to get us that elusive top two line Centerman.

[Hockey Widow]

I would be all in for blowing he core, except Hughes, and build a new core around him. My bold plan would involve moving as many of the following:

Pettersson
Garland
Demko
Chytle
Hoglander
Joshua
O'Connor
Bluegar

I would keep all our D. I would keep Lankinen and Silovs. I would keep Debrusk for now but would not be opposed to moving him. I would keep Sherwood. My plan would be to blow it up except for the D.

Now of course in my scenario we would get the best possible return on any players we trade. Since that is not going to happen I guess I need to be realistic.

[Hockey Widow]

Elias Pettersson says he's fully healthy and
training hard this summer in a new
@hockeysverige interview.
"There were a few minor setbacks during the
season, but everything has healed now and
it's full steam ahead in the gym.
(Translated from Swedish)

Everyone can relax. The Alien has got this!!

[Hockey Widow]

So word out of Edmonton is that they will work with Viktor Arvidsson on a trade. He makes 4 million per and has one more year left in his deal. Now the Oilers were said to be in on Drew O'Connor. How about a one for one swap? O'Connor makes 2 million so it would add only 2 million to our cap. We would get one of the faster players in the league who projects at 25+ goals a season. Is that the type of deal that could help improve our offence?

[2Fingers]

So word out of Edmonton is that they will work with Viktor Arvidsson on a trade. He makes 4 million per and has one more year left in his deal. Now the Oilers were said to be in on Drew O'Connor. How about a one for one swap? O'Connor makes 2 million so it would add only 2 million to our cap. We would get one of the faster players in the league who projects at 25+ goals a season. Is that the type of deal that could help improve our offence?

Another Swede, Mëds will have a heart attack.

[Meds]

LOL! True story Fingers!

Arvidsson is over the hill. Hard pass on a 33 year old shrimp who's best asset is his declining wheels.

[UWSaint]

O’Connor outscored Arvidsson last season, is 6 years younger, has great wheels, and is a ++ penalty killer. He doesn’t see the offensive zone all that well, which limits his offensive potential.

Arvidsson makes more money. He makes more because for years he was a hard working smart player who put up a decent number of points; an asset wherever he was. But last year? He was often scratched in the playoffs. The downturn might be injury related, but at his age, recovery is tough and decline is predictable even without major injury.

[Ronning's Ghost]

A playoff contender in need of upgrading their goaltending may fancy the scenario of having a healthy Demko at the top of his game during the playoffs next season. I still believe that Demko is the chip to get us that elusive top two line Centerman.

The team most obviously matching that description is the Oilers, and I'd have to think that they would be willing to give up a lot for a goaltending upgrade. They probably don't believe that they can afford to trade a current roster player, but I expect that the Canucks could have the cream of the Oilers farm system in exchange for one of their goalies. I don't know much about what the Oilers have in their pipeline (pun fully intended), but would you take Savoie and O'Reilly in exchange for whichever goalie they want most? Whichever goalie you want least? It seems likely at least one of them should mature into a decent 2nd line centre (on an ELC!) while QH is still in his prime.

[Diehard1]

Guess we can stop talking about Arvidsson and start talking about Evander Kane - he's now a Nuck. I can't stand the dude, he's one of the dumbest players in the league, a complete ass in the room and takes more stupid penalties than anyone. The team definitely needs grit but I would have taken just about any gritty player other than him.

Not a fan of this move at all - if Petey does end up staying then I can't imagine he'll get along with Kane. If he thought JT was an ass just wait until he gets in the room with Evander.

[Lancer]

Not a fan of this move at all - if Petey does end up staying then I can't imagine he'll get along with Kane. If he thought JT was an ass just wait until he gets in the room with Evander.

One wonders if they bothered to ask Quinn what he thought of Kane. I can’t imagine Quinn being thrilled about having that piece of shit in the dressing room in addition to dealing with Pouty Petey.

Another nail in Quinn’s coffin here, it seems.

[Cornuck]

So we add Kane... was Nurse unavailable?

Waste of a 4th rounder, imo. As others have mentioned, lots of dumb penalties. Potential dressing room issues. Helping the coil with their cap?

Flip him before he unpacks.