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What does it achieve besides marginalising people?

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:05 am What does it achieve besides marginalising people?

Truth and fact are more important than feelings.

A true step in the right direction would be to remove gender from Nexus entirely. Nobody's checking genitalia at the border so what's the point?

Gender diversity has existed in many cultures across history but unfortunately religion tries to suppress this fact.

Even for physical gender there are people who are intersex (about 1.7% of the population) and don't fit neatly into the binary concept of gender. I believe the Algerian boxer Imane Khelif could have been one.

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:24 pm A true step in the right direction would be to remove gender from Nexus entirely. Nobody's checking genitalia at the border so what's the point?

I can't really argue with that. In the world of photo ID, the only real time that gender matters as far as government goes is when it comes to healthcare.

Gender diversity has existed in many cultures across history but unfortunately religion tries to suppress this fact.

Links to this information if you please?

Even for physical gender there are people who are intersex (about 1.7% of the population) and don't fit neatly into the binary concept of gender. I believe the Algerian boxer Imane Khelif could have been one.

Outside of the absence or either, or presence of both, reproductive organs, and chromosomal abnormality, even intersex are either male or female.....note I'm not defining "woman" here, simply the scientific definition. Also, I am using abnormal in the strictest scientific definition of the word.

Two-spirit people of indigenous North Americans

https://www.ihs.gov/lgbt/twospirit/

The Hijra of South Asia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)

Maori, New Zealand: Whakawahine/Wakatane

https://guides.library.manoa.hawaii.edu ... alidentity

These are just a few examples. There's many others mainly among indigenous cultures. In the western world, non-binary genders have been suppressed due to the influence of Christianity. One can say the same about the Islamic world.

The point is that non-binary gender identities have existed and is not some new woke concept, though I do suspect in the Western world there's a bit of a bandwagon effect.

I'm not saying we should start using tons of pronouns or letting people use whatever bathroom they feel comfortable with. Those are separate issues and I don't necessarily have a good answer for them.

“In the western world, non-binary genders have been suppressed due to the influence of Christianity. One can say the same about the Islamic world.”

Yup - pretty much everyone and anyone I encounter nowadays who are triggered by the non binary gender crowd are, typically, deeply religious. IMO, who the fuck cares how they roll, they ain’t hurting’ nobody except the bent out of shape followers of the invisible man in the sky.

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