Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:01 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:22 pm
I was expanding upon my reply to UW while you posted this RG.....see that edit for my response to this.
Thanks for the redirect.
As for the other posts in the mean time, I agree that it is easier to change the coach than to
re-tool re-arrange the core, so that seems to me like the more obvious place to start if you think the roster is underperforming.
In the modern NHL, it's easier to get the coach you need for the players you have than to get the players you need for the coach you have.
Noteworthy in that it appears to be more usually the other way around in the NFL.
I think that paying someone not to coach would be easier to sell to the Little Eagles than a roster do-over.
Tortorella - 1 season
Desjardins - 3 seasons
Green - 4 seasons
Boudreau - 1.5 seasons
Tocchet - 2 seasons (and counting)
Sure, it's easier. But unless the roster is constructed properly it is often fruitless. Also, any coach coming into a team with a superstar who pouts when he can't play the way he wants is going to have an uphill battle, and it's not going be easy to get the team to buy-in when that player is being coddled.
I don't think moving one core member automatically triggers a rebuild unless the players coming back are years away from contributing.
As Allvin said, Petterson could be, and SHOULD be, a number 1C. If you subtract a 1C and replace him with a 2C AND a 3D, you might have problems up front at first glance. However, when the back end of the team is so poor that the team can't advance with control up the ice consistently, well then the 1C is going to have a hard time producing at a 1C level. Now what happens if you can advance the puck with control, and maintain possession in the offensive zone but only have a 2C? I'd say it's a wash offensively but in theory you keep more pucks out of your own net so have a net improvement. Consider now that both the 2C and 3D buy-in to the system and you should definitely see overall team improvement.
The big IF in my scenario s actually JT Miller. If Petey out results in Miller going back to the player we've seen the past several seasons, then the loss of a 1C is negated completely because we would still have that player.
When I look at our current roster.....
Miller
Pettersson
Boeser
Hughes
Hronek
Demko
Are the core players.
Miller (31), Demko (29), and Boeser (28), are at the age where winning with them is a window of about 3 years in length.....including this season.
Hughes is 25 and provided he stays healthy has 10 years of great hockey left in him.
Pettersson is 26 and probably does not have the durability to be elite beyond 31. He certainly has not shown the mental fortitude to build around.
Hronek is 27 and should be effective as a top-4 guy for another 5 or 6 years.
Replace Pettersson with Cozens and Byram (just examples) and your team gets 3 years younger in two important positions, and both of them are at an age and stage of career where they could take big steps forward.
Shoot your shot.
can make players better here under Tocchet. Fuck the reclamation projects, read the fucking book on players oncr in while, trust the word on the street, ffs. Complete waste of time and money.