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Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:18 pm
by Cherry Picker
When I stare at their numbers I think:

5, 4, 3, 2, WON!

Woo Huoooo!

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:00 pm
by 2Fingers
Hank wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:10 pm Here he comes to save the day

HUGhEs Wooooo!!!

Image
Only 2" difference in heights :mrgreen:

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:25 pm
by Mickey107
Looks like a regular Canuck fan turn out for last years games.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:41 pm
by SKYO
Thinking of the golden nuggets predictions on the team drafted/traded for to build around for the long haul:

Horvat Boeser
Dahlen Pettersson
Gaudette Virtanen

Hughes _____
Juolevi Woo

Demko


Then you got the expensive vet players that a lot of people loathe due to their contracts in Eriksson, Sutter, Beagle, Roussel, Edler, Tanev and Gudbranson.
The unknowns: Gadjovich, Kole Lind, Lockwood, Palmu, Jasek, Rathbone, Brassard, Brisebois, Chatfield, Madden.
The expendables: Goldy, Baertschi, Granlund, Leipsic, MDZ, Hutton, Pouliot.

imo the key ingredient missing for now is a big gritty Shea Weber 'type' right side top pairing dman who has a cannon of a shot.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:54 pm
by Mickey107
SKYO wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:41 pm Thinking of the golden nuggets predictions on the team drafted/traded for to build around for the long haul:

Horvat Boeser
Dahlen Pettersson
Gaudette Virtanen

Hughes _____
Juolevi Woo

Demko


Then you got the expensive vet players that a lot of people loathe due to their contracts in Eriksson, Sutter, Beagle, Roussel, Edler, Tanev and Gudbranson.
The unknowns: Gadjovich, Kole Lind, Lockwood, Palmu, Jasek, Rathbone, Brassard, Brisebois, Chatfield, Madden.
The expendables: Goldy, Baertschi, Granlund, Leipsic, MDZ, Hutton, Pouliot.

imo the key ingredient missing for now is a big gritty Shea Weber 'type' right side top pairing dman who has a cannon of a shot.
Maybe, (some day), we could acquire Evan Bouchard. I understand he fits that description.

sorry, bad joke. I admit it.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:06 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
Reefer2 wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:00 pm Only 2" difference in heights :mrgreen:
I was thinking that perhaps the angle of the photograph was deceptive in that regard.

Or Maybe young Mr. Woo is taller than advertised ? :roll:

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:22 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
micky107 wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:25 pm Looks like a regular Canuck fan turn out for last years games.
It’s nice weather out.

Can’t blame people for not wanting to sit inside in a day like today

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:50 pm
by Carl Yagro
Younger people have jobs, Mick.

The midget speaks:


Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:09 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
The kid sounds like hes going back to Michigan if he doesnt make the NHL

I would love to see some scrimmage footage from today...any links?

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:25 pm
by SKYO
Makes sense, the big meeting is next week, Michigan or the Canucks.
imac:

Agent Pat Brisson and #Canucks GM Jim Benning spoke today about 7th pick Quinn Hughes turning pro.

Each side will discuss what’s best for D-man’s development, and they’ll try to agree on a decision within a week.
His style of play I think he could put up at least 30 NHL pts next season with sheltered minutes, offensive zone starts, powerplay etc.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:00 pm
by Hockey Widow
Word is that Hughes and his agent want to see a clear path to him being in the top six or he will return to Michigan. Not out there as a threat but simply they don’t see the benefit of Utica at this point in time over a developmental year in Michigan.

His preference is to sign and play in the NHL but if the pathway isn’t there this year he’s ok with one more year in the NCAA.

So the Canucks it seems wont be able to park him in Utica this year. They have to decide if they want to clear room and “guarantee” him a spot or if they think he’s better suited in college for now.

He’s not the first player, college or otherwise, that doesn’t see the AHL as a good developmental option. We see this a lot with Swedes, Finns, Russians. All who would rather develop in other leagues for another 1-2 years than play in the AHL.

I don’t get the sense this is hardball threats or negotiation tactics but rather a preference if he’s not on the Canucks roster. As a fan I’d rather him being in Utica and available for call up but from a developmental perspective in college he will have more time to work on the off ice things he needs to work on.

If Benning has a hard on to get him signed he will have to commit to moving D.

In some ways this resembles Trymankin’s perspective. He didn’t see a role or pathway to top four and wasn’t willing to resign and risk Utica. He chose to return to the KHL.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:17 pm
by DonCherry4PM
Hockey Widow wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:00 pm Word is that Hughes and his agent want to see a clear path to him being in the top six or he will return to Michigan. Not out there as a threat but simply they don’t see the benefit of Utica at this point in time over a developmental year in Michigan.

His preference is to sign and play in the NHL but if the pathway isn’t there this year he’s ok with one more year in the NCAA.

So the Canucks it seems wont be able to park him in Utica this year. They have to decide if they want to clear room and “guarantee” him a spot or if they think he’s better suited in college for now.

He’s not the first player, college or otherwise, that doesn’t see the AHL as a good developmental option. We see this a lot with Swedes, Finns, Russians. All who would rather develop in other leagues for another 1-2 years than play in the AHL.

I don’t get the sense this is hardball threats or negotiation tactics but rather a preference if he’s not on the Canucks roster. As a fan I’d rather him being in Utica and available for call up but from a developmental perspective in college he will have more time to work on the off ice things he needs to work on.

If Benning has a hard on to get him signed he will have to commit to moving D.

In some ways this resembles Trymankin’s perspective. He didn’t see a role or pathway to top four and wasn’t willing to resign and risk Utica. He chose to return to the KHL.
Thanks for the update, Wids. Obviously it would be more fun for us this year if he were either on the team or in Utica but might be best to have another year in Michigan. Not sure how applicable it is, but Boeser seemed to do just fine without the intermediate step from NCAA to AHL to NHL.

Other than learning to play a system similar to what the Canucks have, anyone have any thoughts in respect of the benefits of being in the AHL vs. NCAA? I have read some places that AHL has much higher overall skill but read others that there isn't really that much of a difference.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:29 pm
by SKYO
I think the AHL is best for when you are close to ready but not quite there yet.

NCAA is great for working out and practicing a lot as they don't play as much games vs the pros, so they train hard all year as I think they only play like 40-42 games a season? vs AHL - 80?games NHL 82.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:35 pm
by DonCherry4PM
SKYO wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:29 pm I think the AHL is best for when you are close to ready but not quite there yet.

NCAA is great for working out and practicing a lot as they don't play as much games vs the pros, so they train hard all year as I think they only play like 40-42 games a season? vs AHL - 80?games NHL 82.
Considering his size then, NCAA could conceivably be better in terms of muscle/weight gain?

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:45 pm
by SKYO
Such a tough call considering his skating is NHL caliber already along with his scoring skills he's probably already better than MDZ, Pouliot, Hutton and Stecher skill wise.


Friedman: "There's been a strange undercurrent of rumor w/ Colton Parayko, that maybe St. Louis potentially might be willing to do something there. It was around the draft. It went away. It didn't happen. It would take a huge price, but I think teams asked about it." #stlblues
That be my dream top defense pairing of Hughes - Parayko....a perfect duo of complimentary skills.
I'd give up Tryamkin++ for a Parayko type.