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RoyalDude wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:30 am I’m just not seeing the chips to get another first but if we are bringing back Edler and they are wanting to promote Juolevi then the left side is stacked with Edler, Hughes, Hutton and Juolevi. Tryamkin also is a left shot D-man as well as Sautner, Teves and Brisebios. Maybe Hutton is moved but at the most you’re getting a 2nd for him unless we package him with our 2nd. I wouldn’t be trading Juolevi. Virtanen might get ya something close to a late first but that’s a backwards move by the Canucks with pressure mounting to start winning now instead of waiting 2-3-4 years for a late first rounder to develop. The likes of Virtanen and Hutton in a “hockey trade” makes more sense.

Is it out of the realm to trade Gaudette? Keep Sutter around to hold a place for when Madden arrives? Not sure how the Sutter/Gaudette situation unfolds, I gather Gaudette starts the year in Utica? Then Sutter gets injured 2 weeks into the season?

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:30 am I’m just not seeing the chips to get another first but if we are bringing back Edler and they are wanting to promote Juolevi then the left side is stacked with Edler, Hughes, Hutton and Juolevi. Tryamkin also is a left shot D-man as well as Sautner, Teves and Brisebios. Maybe Hutton is moved but at the most you’re getting a 2nd for him unless we package him with our 2nd. I wouldn’t be trading Juolevi. Virtanen might get ya something close to a late first but that’s a backwards move by the Canucks with pressure mounting to start winning now instead of waiting 2-3-4 years for a late first rounder to develop. The likes of Virtanen and Hutton in a “hockey trade” makes more sense.

Is it out of the realm to trade Gaudette? Keep Sutter around to hold a place for when Madden arrives? Not sure how the Sutter/Gaudette situation unfolds, I gather Gaudette starts the year in Utica? Then Sutter gets injured 2 weeks into the season?

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:30 am I’m just not seeing the chips to get another first but if we are bringing back Edler and they are wanting to promote Juolevi then the left side is stacked with Edler, Hughes, Hutton and Juolevi. Tryamkin also is a left shot D-man as well as Sautner, Teves and Brisebios. Maybe Hutton is moved but at the most you’re getting a 2nd for him unless we package him with our 2nd. I wouldn’t be trading Juolevi. Virtanen might get ya something close to a late first but that’s a backwards move by the Canucks with pressure mounting to start winning now instead of waiting 2-3-4 years for a late first rounder to develop. The likes of Virtanen and Hutton in a “hockey trade” makes more sense.

Is it out of the realm to trade Gaudette? Keep Sutter around to hold a place for when Madden arrives? Not sure how the Sutter/Gaudette situation unfolds, I gather Gaudette starts the year in Utica? Then Sutter gets injured 2 weeks into the season?

Diehard1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:46 am

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:30 am I’m just not seeing the chips to get another first but if we are bringing back Edler and they are wanting to promote Juolevi then the left side is stacked with Edler, Hughes, Hutton and Juolevi. Tryamkin also is a left shot D-man as well as Sautner, Teves and Brisebios. Maybe Hutton is moved but at the most you’re getting a 2nd for him unless we package him with our 2nd. I wouldn’t be trading Juolevi. Virtanen might get ya something close to a late first but that’s a backwards move by the Canucks with pressure mounting to start winning now instead of waiting 2-3-4 years for a late first rounder to develop. The likes of Virtanen and Hutton in a “hockey trade” makes more sense.

Is it out of the realm to trade Gaudette? Keep Sutter around to hold a place for when Madden arrives? Not sure how the Sutter/Gaudette situation unfolds, I gather Gaudette starts the year in Utica? Then Sutter gets injured 2 weeks into the season?

I expect Sautner to make the team next year, isn't he waiver eligible now? I don't think they want to lose him for nothing as Jimbo and the coaches seem to really like him. Edler will be re-signed, it's a foregone conclusion IMHO. I agree Hutton is probably worth a 2nd, and I'd do that deal as I think he's a luxury not a necessity with Edler, Hughes, Sautner and maybe Olli ready to go.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a trade like Gaudette to TO for Nylander and a contract dump, as TO badly needs to shed a ton of salary this off-season. Don't forget they still have that Nathan Horton contract they are carrying around which could be an issue giving tagging problems and can only go 10% over the cap in the summer. They likely need $10 million to sign Marner and another $4 million to sign Kapanen, and they are already at $75 million for next year - that's a lot of cap to get rid of.

I'm hoping Sutter is long gone, he's not necessary and even when he plays he does nothing except kill penalties. He may have some worth to somebody but he's redundant here and takes a spot from a young guy. Beagle is the same player and he's signed for 3 more seasons - if it was me I'd retain 50% on Sutter, as his value would be much better if he was only around $2 million on the cap. Maybe get a 2nd or 3rd for him then?

micky107 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:17 pm Well, I don't even know why I'm talking about LE, when I'm almost certain he will either play out or sit out his contract in Van, then
retire and go back to Sweden.

micky107 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:17 pm

Diehard1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:46 am

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:30 am I’m just not seeing the chips to get another first but if we are bringing back Edler and they are wanting to promote Juolevi then the left side is stacked with Edler, Hughes, Hutton and Juolevi. Tryamkin also is a left shot D-man as well as Sautner, Teves and Brisebios. Maybe Hutton is moved but at the most you’re getting a 2nd for him unless we package him with our 2nd. I wouldn’t be trading Juolevi. Virtanen might get ya something close to a late first but that’s a backwards move by the Canucks with pressure mounting to start winning now instead of waiting 2-3-4 years for a late first rounder to develop. The likes of Virtanen and Hutton in a “hockey trade” makes more sense.

Is it out of the realm to trade Gaudette? Keep Sutter around to hold a place for when Madden arrives? Not sure how the Sutter/Gaudette situation unfolds, I gather Gaudette starts the year in Utica? Then Sutter gets injured 2 weeks into the season?

I expect Sautner to make the team next year, isn't he waiver eligible now? I don't think they want to lose him for nothing as Jimbo and the coaches seem to really like him. Edler will be re-signed, it's a foregone conclusion IMHO. I agree Hutton is probably worth a 2nd, and I'd do that deal as I think he's a luxury not a necessity with Edler, Hughes, Sautner and maybe Olli ready to go.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a trade like Gaudette to TO for Nylander and a contract dump, as TO badly needs to shed a ton of salary this off-season. Don't forget they still have that Nathan Horton contract they are carrying around which could be an issue giving tagging problems and can only go 10% over the cap in the summer. They likely need $10 million to sign Marner and another $4 million to sign Kapanen, and they are already at $75 million for next year - that's a lot of cap to get rid of.

I'm hoping Sutter is long gone, he's not necessary and even when he plays he does nothing except kill penalties. He may have some worth to somebody but he's redundant here and takes a spot from a young guy. Beagle is the same player and he's signed for 3 more seasons - if it was me I'd retain 50% on Sutter, as his value would be much better if he was only around $2 million on the cap. Maybe get a 2nd or 3rd for him then?

IMHO, there is no way they trade Gaudette. Madden is no less than two years away from an NHL job.
Pretty sure Hutton earned a new contract when he came through damn good with the injuries and showed he was capable of big minutes.
That's my guess, but we'll see.
I like the idea of moving Sutter but I don't think the owners will put an OK stamp on retention, at least not on Sutter.
They might on Eriksson if he could be convinced that it would be in his best interest in moving his family and his trade now as opposed
to later when he is out of options.
Well, I don't even know why I'm talking about LE, when I'm almost certain he will either play out or sit out his contract in Van, then
retire and go back to Sweden.

Reefer2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:16 amJulio will require at least 20 games in the AHL before he is brought up.

Topper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:04 pm

Reefer2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:16 amJulio will require at least 20 games in the AHL before he is brought up.

Why?

Reefer2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:43 pm

Topper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:04 pm

Reefer2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:16 amJulio will require at least 20 games in the AHL before he is brought up.

Why?

Prior to being injured I do not believe he was ready to come up and then combine that with his injuries he is going to need some games to get back into shape and back into the grove of playing hockey.

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:33 pm Reefer casting that shadow of a doubt for all things Juolevi, why be different eh Reefer? Tow the company line, and pile on like everyone else

Ollie has a strong camp, he’s in the starting line up next fall. It’s not a stretch...unless you still want to mad about not drafting Tkachuk, if so, pile on that Mt Everest of doubt, it’s hip.

Reefer2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:57 pm

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:33 pm Reefer casting that shadow of a doubt for all things Juolevi, why be different eh Reefer? Tow the company line, and pile on like everyone else

Ollie has a strong camp, he’s in the starting line up next fall. It’s not a stretch...unless you still want to mad about not drafting Tkachuk, if so, pile on that Mt Everest of doubt, it’s hip.

I said he will need 20 games before he gets called.

Highly unlikely he can knock anyone off the team.

Reefer2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:57 pm
I said he will need 20 games before he gets called.

Highly unlikely he can knock anyone off the team.