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Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Thu May 28, 2026 10:50 am
by donlever
I see what u did there...

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Thu May 28, 2026 12:45 pm
by Meds
Topper wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 6:47 am They were transported to their current location between 90 and 50 million years ago. Much of BC was the latitude of Mexico (tectonics folks call it Baja BC).
Would that result in the rocks in Mexico being from somewhere else then as well? Or does that relocation result in drops of elevation?

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Thu May 28, 2026 2:03 pm
by Topper
I had a long answer typed and my session crapped out and I lost the post

so listen to Nick Zentner
Nick is preaching the work of Bob Hildebrand, an Arizona geo. Many of the BC geo's disagree on the fault under the Rockies saying it is contrary to most of their field work. One BC geo working with a geophysicist in France it putting together the idea that the fault is further west through central BC.

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Thu May 28, 2026 4:25 pm
by Topper
170 million years ago, North America is heading westward, pushed by the opening of the Atlanic and the mid Atlanic spreading ridge. The Angyluchan and Mescaleran oceans (prto - Pacific) are closing to the west as their underlying ocianic rocks are subducted into a trench. Volcanism on the west side of the trench forms the Insular Belt (much of western BC) and the Angyluchan Arc (northwestern Alaska).

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85 million years ago, North America has closed the Mescalera Trench and is closing the Angyluchan Trench. The continental rocks are bouyant and can not be subducted. The descending slab breaks off and continues to sink in the mantle. Free of the descending slab, motion on the trench (fault) becomes strike slip and the Insular belt and Angyluchan arc head north (similar to present day motion on the San Andreas)

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0 million years ago, current scenario, an offshore eastern dipping subduction event is near concluding North America has continued west over riding the broken slabs of the Mezcaleran and Angyluchan Arcs that currently rest vertically in the mantle below the eastern seaboard.

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In cross section, a cartoon of the above

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A geologist from the BC Geological Survey has been working with a geophysicist on the University Cote d Azur who has modeled the mantle using seismic waves. As more geoprobe stations become available the modelling improves. Currently resolution of the data becomes messy over 1800 kilometres depth in the mantle. I stole the images from a preprint of their most recent paper.(Karin Sigloch & Mitchell G. Mihalynuk)

The question is, where is that fault that all that strike slip movement occurred on. Bob Hildebrand, from Arizona believes it is under the Rockies. Mitch and Karin are currently working on their idea that it is in central BC. The central BC narrative fits better with BC Geological Survey field mapping.

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Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 6:29 am
by Cousin Strawberry
What trips a dude right the fuck out is that all life is merely a little tuft of blue, green and brown riding around on rafts of rock floating on an eternal sea of lava

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 8:35 am
by Tciso
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 6:29 am What trips a dude right the fuck out is that all life is merely a little tuft of blue, green and brown riding around on rafts of rock floating on an eternal sea of lava, all working together to keep the Canucks from ever winning a Cup
:D

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 7:49 pm
by Topper
I recall in school, before 3D and 4D computer simulations, the guys working on this did a lot of acid and were a reliably supply for us less frequent fliers

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2026 2:37 pm
by Per
Lots of forest fires in Spain, France and Italy as they suffer their third heat wave in six weeks.

I have ordered an AC that will be installed some time next week.

Traditionally we haven’t really needed AC in Sweden, but the summers keep getting hotter.

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2026 10:48 am
by Per
Worst fire in Norwegian history.
More than 100 homes burnt to the ground in Drammen.
The fire spread very quickly because the surroundings were very dry due to the recent heat wave.

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c4gj5944n4ko

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:40 pm
by donlever
It's over Per....enjoy your life man...you're not stopping it bud....

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2026 4:31 pm
by Per
donlever wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:40 pm It's over Per....enjoy your life man...you're not stopping it bud....
Agreed. It will take decades - or generations - to reverse this. If possible at all.
It will keep getting warmer for the rest of my life. But at least I’ve got AC installed now.
Just have to keep my fingers crossed I can stay clear of catastrophic weather events.

One pressing concern right now is that the hops harvests in Czechia are dwindling. It is getting too hot for the traditional hops varieties.
Imagine if the crisp taste of a traditional Czech pilsner is lost for future generations! :(

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2026 6:44 pm
by Topper
15,000 years of Salt Spring Island

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Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2026 7:19 pm
by Meds
If I’m reading that correctly it’s been remarkable consistent in its fluctuations with only one alarming peak in the past 4000 years…..and contrary to the global warming doomsayers we are actually on the lower end of the spectrum right now but I’m guessing on a 50-100 year climb.

The many peaks and valleys of that graph also seem to prove climate change is merely climate flux that has been happening regardless of civilization or global population.

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 6:14 am
by Cousin Strawberry
Topper wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 6:44 pm 15,000 years of Salt Spring Island

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Doesn't the ocean serve as a thermal battery of sorts? Regulating extreme temperature swings more than areas without?

Re: It's getting warm

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 7:13 am
by Per
Mëds wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 7:19 pm If I’m reading that correctly it’s been remarkable consistent in its fluctuations with only one alarming peak in the past 4000 years…..and contrary to the global warming doomsayers we are actually on the lower end of the spectrum right now but I’m guessing on a 50-100 year climb.

The many peaks and valleys of that graph also seem to prove climate change is merely climate flux that has been happening regardless of civilization or global population.
The climate has been remarkably consistent since the last ice age. That is supposed to be the reason why there have been homo sapiens around for almost 300,000 years but civilisation and agriculture only during the last 12,000 years. Before the end of the last ice age the climate was too volatile to make agriculture make sense, and with constantly changing climates and sea levels, the nomadic life style was the only sensible option. You had to be able to pack up and leave at short notice and go where the best chances of finding food would be over the next period of time.

What climate scientists worry about is that with the rapid rise of temperature in recent decades we may be moving away from that stability.
And yeah, global temperatures have risen. This graph is from one specific island. The climate change is not happening at the same speed everywhere. Temperatures are actually rising faster in Scandinavia then the global average. Maybe that's why people here seem to be more concerned.

I'm trying to adapt, have planted grapes and a peach tree and last week I had AC installed.
That hasn't really been needed in Sweden traditionally, but every summer seems to get a little hotter than the last one.