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[Aaronp18]

I don't mind EVs as a commuter vehicle but right now the infrastructure in Canasda does not support long travel. It's fine it you have a home charges, but even those will take 8 hours to charge a battery from near drained.

Now try traveling long distances, again you will need to charge at some point driving more than 300kms in a single direction, which for me happens nearly every weekend for kids sports in the interior of BC.

I know what you're thinking, just stick it on a super fast charger and it'll get to 90% in 30 minutes. This is true, if one is available. Not only that, if one if charged enough to charge your battery. See most super chargers are themselves larger batteries, so when they are charged they can charge you battery at up to 150kw. So on any given day the first few to use the charger get the fast charing experience, once drained it will take that standard 8 hours to charge as a stage 2 charger. Most fast chargers right now are not directly tied to the power grid!

Not only that but smaller towns in BC and into Alberta have very limited charging capacity, from my experience once you get off the Trans Canada Hwy you can easily go 300-350km without finding a charger period.

The batteries may get better but the infrastructure still need to be advanced as well to accommodate recharging vehicle batteries in a relatively short period of time!

[Cousin Strawberry]

Per most Japanese made gas vehicles last a helluva lot longer than 12-15 years (unless you get suckered into buying American or euro made junk).

Battery powered vehicles are clearly the future but until they solve the charging and range issues in vast countries like Canada it's Hybrids for now

[Per]

Per most Japanese made gas vehicles last a helluva lot longer than 12-15 years (unless you get suckered into buying American or euro made junk).

Battery powered vehicles are clearly the future but until they solve the charging and range issues in vast countries like Canada it's Hybrids for now

Yeah, I know. We had an old Toyota Picnic that we used as our second car till it was like 17 years old, then sold it to some guy who was exporting old toyota vans to Africa. It’s probably still running there. But you rarely see cars that old in Europe.*

My previous car was a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, which I bought when it was two years old and sold when it was ten. There was nothing wrong with it, but the car insurance doesn’t cover everything when the car is more than ten years old, so there’s that, and also I felt like I wanted a new car. I was initially thinking of a two year old Volvo XC60 PHEV, but when I realized I could get a fully electric car for the same money, I got that instead. I’ve gotten over my range anxiety.

But, yeah, I know. Japanese cars last forever. They’re great value for money.

*OK, sure, my cousin drives a gold coloured 1962 Plymouth Valiant converible. But only in the summer. During the winter he’s driving some cheap Korean thing. But those vintage American cars are part of a huge rural Swedish subculture. They have all these car meets allover the place in summer, drinking beer and listening to rockabilly. But other than that.

[Aaronp18]

Wait, Toyota made a vehicle and called it a Picnic?

lever, I think I found your next ride.

[Per]

Wait, Toyota made a vehicle and called it a Picnic?

lever, I think I found your next ride.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/car-reviews ... 1997-2001/

A small van. Available with six (2+2+2) or seven (2+3+2) seats. We had a six-seater.
The seats in the third row were easily detachable if you wanted more luggage space.

My first imported car. Before that I had had a SAAB 900 and a Volvo 245.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Wait, Toyota made a vehicle and called it a Picnic?

lever, I think I found your next ride.

Rolling up in one of those will ensure he gets Thin Lizzy May's ankles behind her ears

[Aaronp18]

Wait, Toyota made a vehicle and called it a Picnic?

lever, I think I found your next ride.

Rolling up in one of those will ensure he gets Thin Lizzy May's ankles behind her ears

And they call gin the panty remover.

Cuz, imagine the Okanagan cougars you could haul if Honda made a vehicle call the Charcuterie!

[Cousin Strawberry]

Aaron I unfortunately know from experience those achin'organ valley girls hunt semen donors during their ovulation cycles the way regular people hunt for careers

[Carl Yagro]

How many kids are you supporting now, Cuz?

[Aaronp18]

Aaron I unfortunately know from experience those achin'organ valley girls hunt semen donors during their ovulation cycles the way regular people hunt for careers

Through the lottery?

[Cousin Strawberry]

They're all full grown and (mostly) off my wallet thank fuck. Just offloaded the last one recently

*Cousin Strawberry's life hacks #10:

When your overgrown brats won't leave the nest in a timely manner...move to bumfuck Alberta and don't get high-speed starlink. It's the modern day equivalent of souring the milk

[2Fingers]

I don't mind EVs as a commuter vehicle but right now the infrastructure in Canasda does not support long travel. It's fine it you have a home charges, but even those will take 8 hours to charge a battery from near drained.

Now try traveling long distances, again you will need to charge at some point driving more than 300kms in a single direction, which for me happens nearly every weekend for kids sports in the interior of BC.

I know what you're thinking, just stick it on a super fast charger and it'll get to 90% in 30 minutes. This is true, if one is available. Not only that, if one if charged enough to charge your battery. See most super chargers are themselves larger batteries, so when they are charged they can charge you battery at up to 150kw. So on any given day the first few to use the charger get the fast charing experience, once drained it will take that standard 8 hours to charge as a stage 2 charger. Most fast chargers right now are not directly tied to the power grid!

Not only that but smaller towns in BC and into Alberta have very limited charging capacity, from my experience once you get off the Trans Canada Hwy you can easily go 300-350km without finding a charger period.

The batteries may get better but the infrastructure still need to be advanced as well to accommodate recharging vehicle batteries in a relatively short period of time!

I bought a 2024 Toyota BZ which has a summer range of 460km normal driving, I intend to go to Penticton in September and plan on stopping in Hope (just to top up) then at the top of the Coq and then at another City unless my apps say I can make it to Penticton. I don't mind the stop at the Coq, great hot dogs, wifi and a charger and in 30 minutes I am back up to 80%.

99% of my driving is lower mainland so it works perfect for me, really love the power it has but I do wish it could go 600km on a 100% charge.

Now what I heard but there is so much half truths is that some manufactures don't actually charge up to 100% of the battery because it saves the life time, similar to charging your cell at night. Also it saves 5% or 10% for emergency.

[Aaronp18]

I bought a 2024 Toyota BZ which has a summer range of 460km normal driving, I intend to go to Penticton in September and plan on stopping in Hope (just to top up) then at the top of the Coq and then at another City unless my apps say I can make it to Penticton. I don't mind the stop at the Coq, great hot dogs, wifi and a charger and in 30 minutes I am back up to 80%.

99% of my driving is lower mainland so it works perfect for me, really love the power it has but I do wish it could go 600km on a 100% charge.

Now what I heard but there is so much half truths is that some manufactures don't actually charge up to 100% of the battery because it saves the life time, similar to charging your cell at night. Also it saves 5% or 10% for emergency.

Hey Reef, I agree and we have a BMW i4 and the range is decent (really it's more fun because its the M50 version). And we make a similar trek often, typically we can get to Hope from Kelowna and then when heading back do the same and charge up in Hope to get us home.

However, if you happen to leave on a busy weekend chargers will be tough to come by. My wife made the trip once, got to Hope and all fast chargers were occupied with lineups waiting. The ones that weren't were only charging at 6kw (good 6-7 hours to charge it up). So she charged as much as she could to get to Merritt and try to find a charger, same issue. So she had to stay the night and hooked up the car to a slow charger for the night.

Long weekends are the worst, weekends in the summer really aren't much difference.

If everything goes well they make it up here no issue, but being right in that range where you may not make it all the way to Kelowna sucks. Actually looking at the Lucid options right now as we do like having a second vehicle that's all electric but would love to get into that 600-700km range.

[2Fingers]

Good to know, I’m going in September and driving out Friday morning and coming back Monday or Tuesday. Summer vacation over but really good to remember about wait times.