2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

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The two Americans Boldy and Zegras are very interesting. Regarding American Turcotte, sounds like a boom bust player some scouts rank him top 5 while I’ve seen him outside the top 20 on other lists, same with D-man Broberg. This draft is a crap shoot after the top 4-5 regarding BPA
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He's having an off year, a little, but. Been injured, (still nursing but doesn't let on), tough guy!
As above mention, plays with scubs not the best player. Not Brock, Pete, can you imagine.
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Bo is a good 2C I have no desires to trade him but blaming his wingers is wrong. He’s not the style of centre who uses his wingers like Elias or Hank, but I do believe he could benefit by having your prototypical playmaking winger to play with kind of like what Gaudreau is to Monahan. Peyton Krebs would be ideal on his wing
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RoyalDude wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:05 am Bo is a good 2C I have no desires to trade him but blaming his wingers is wrong. He’s not the style of centre who uses his wingers like Elias or Hank, but I do believe he could benefit by having your prototypical playmaking winger to play with kind of like what Gaudreau is to Monahan. Peyton Krebs would be ideal on his wing
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RoyalDude wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:05 am Bo is a good 2C I have no desires to trade him but blaming his wingers is wrong. He’s not the style of centre who uses his wingers like Elias or Hank, but I do believe he could benefit by having your prototypical playmaking winger to play with kind of like what Gaudreau is to Monahan. Peyton Krebs would be ideal on his wing
Yeah Monahan is great comparable to Horvat in that they both aren't elite playmakers but they get points, Monahan is a tad more prolific in scoring though as he's been avg 60ish points per since his sophomore year.

So finding one of the better playmakers to draft in the 7-15 range these are the guys ya want.

Trevor Zegras, Peyton Krebs, Alex Newhook, Ryan Suzuki.
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Carlyee wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:29 am
Mëds wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:26 am What's with demoting Horvat and shitting on him saying he can't be a 2nd line center because he doesn't distribute well?

The guy has 41 points in 51 games and he plays with absolute shit linemates most of the time. At 5-on-5 Bo gets to skate with Granlund and Baertschi if he's lucky. We often see him being used to equalize a line with wingers who are playing 2 lines above their ability.

He's comparable to Patrice Bergeron when it comes to his 200 ft game, he's not quite the same level of playmaking, but Bergeron has had some dynamite players to skate with......Give Bo wingers like Marchand and Pastrnak and you probably see closer to 70 points out of Horvat.
I like Bo. But his ceiling is likely neither Bergeron nor Messier, to whom you have also compared him to.

Messier, love him or hate him, is considered one of the greatest players of all time. If Bo gets 2/3 of the way there I would be ecstatic.

I agree that for the most part his line mates have been trash. Schaller?
I didn't say his ceiling is Bergeron, but his game is comparable. Bo's 200 foot game has struggled the last year because he's being overworked and expected to do too much. But he's currently on pace for 60 points playing with 3rd line wingers.

I never said he was as good as Messier.
Mëds wrote: Bo reminds me of Messier.....minus a good degree of finish and playmaking. He’s a bull and drives hard. He doesn’t fight, but he’s not incapable of it. He plays a hard 200 feet of ice and plays through pain and never quits......he also gets shit line mates and has only gone 2 games without a point once all year.

Gretz wore the C in Edmonton, but even he has said that Mess was the leader of those teams.

Let Bo lead and Petey score.
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RoyalDude wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:05 am Bo is a good 2C I have no desires to trade him but blaming his wingers is wrong. He’s not the style of centre who uses his wingers like Elias or Hank, but I do believe he could benefit by having your prototypical playmaking winger to play with kind of like what Gaudreau is to Monahan. Peyton Krebs would be ideal on his wing
Huh.

You're such a walking, talking, typing, contradiction.
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SKYO wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:42 am
RoyalDude wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:05 am Bo is a good 2C I have no desires to trade him but blaming his wingers is wrong. He’s not the style of centre who uses his wingers like Elias or Hank, but I do believe he could benefit by having your prototypical playmaking winger to play with kind of like what Gaudreau is to Monahan. Peyton Krebs would be ideal on his wing
Yeah Monahan is great comparable to Horvat in that they both aren't elite playmakers but they get points, Monahan is a tad more prolific in scoring though as he's been avg 60ish points per since his sophomore year.

So finding one of the better playmakers to draft in the 7-15 range these are the guys ya want.

Trevor Zegras, Peyton Krebs, Alex Newhook, Ryan Suzuki.
Does Horvat approach 60 points more consistently going backwards if he's playing with a guy like Gaudreau? Probably.
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Horvat would benefit greatly playing with skilled playmaking winger. Baertschi just ain’t cutting it, he’s invisible most the time. Virtanen just isn’t headsy enough to be a playmaking winger. The quest is to find your Ferland/Semenko to play with Petey and Brock and your Gaudreau for Horvat
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RoyalDude wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:18 am Horvat would benefit greatly playing with skilled playmaking winger. Baertschi just ain’t cutting it, he’s invisible most the time. Virtanen just isn’t headsy enough to be a playmaking winger. The quest is to find your Ferland/Semenko to play with Petey and Brock and your Gaudreau for Horvat
Here I am, sticking up for Jake again. It only seems that way, but; When, (this year), has he been given a spot on Bo's line for say 10 games?
Because it takes that long for a proper look-see.
But then; When's the last time we had a coach that doesn't freak about something after one or two?
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Mëds wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:10 am
SKYO wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:42 am
RoyalDude wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:05 am Bo is a good 2C I have no desires to trade him but blaming his wingers is wrong. He’s not the style of centre who uses his wingers like Elias or Hank, but I do believe he could benefit by having your prototypical playmaking winger to play with kind of like what Gaudreau is to Monahan. Peyton Krebs would be ideal on his wing
Yeah Monahan is great comparable to Horvat in that they both aren't elite playmakers but they get points, Monahan is a tad more prolific in scoring though as he's been avg 60ish points per since his sophomore year.

So finding one of the better playmakers to draft in the 7-15 range these are the guys ya want.

Trevor Zegras, Peyton Krebs, Alex Newhook, Ryan Suzuki.
Does Horvat approach 60 points more consistently going backwards if he's playing with a guy like Gaudreau? Probably.
You mean playing with a superstar increases someones points? asinine! :D

But seriously this is why I want to eventually have the top 6 with more balance to it:
Dahlen-Petey-Virtanen
_______ -Horvat-Boeser

Then Bo gets a true talent on his wing, spread out scoring.
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Bo is more of a one on three than a give and go kind of guy.
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Bo is on pace for 66 points - there were several playoff teams last year who had #1 centers producing at that pace - Boston, New Jersey, San Jose, Tampa Bay (Stamkos was mostly on the wing last year, no?).

He is usually due for a late-season offensive surge, which could put him back on the 70+ point pace he had through December.

He is undoubtedly a #1C, or on this healthy team he's one of the best #2C's in the league. Each season his scoring pace has increased by 10s, so he's consistently getting better.
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ESQ wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:09 pm Bo is on pace for 66 points - there were several playoff teams last year who had #1 centers producing at that pace - Boston, New Jersey, San Jose, Tampa Bay (Stamkos was mostly on the wing last year, no?).

He is usually due for a late-season offensive surge, which could put him back on the 70+ point pace he had through December.

He is undoubtedly a #1C, or on this healthy team he's one of the best #2C's in the league. Each season his scoring pace has increased by 10s, so he's consistently getting better.
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Yeah Bo takes a fair bit of heat on this board for whatever reason. He’s a top 20 centre in the league quite easily
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