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Shit I shoulda had Mason Raymond in there. Hell if Gillis doesn’t make the dumb Ballard deal, and just re-upped Willie Mitchell, we’d have still had Bernier and Grabner. Hell, keep SOB and Hordichuk around so the team didn’t get mugged. Keith Ballard and Oreskovich were useless.

Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make.

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:26 am
Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make.

I’m starting to feel that way about the Lindholm deal, time will tell, but so far as a rental which he is? Very disappointing. Coulda done better with someone else for less assets given.

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:35 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:26 am
Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make.

I’m starting to feel that way about the Lindholm deal, time will tell, but so far as a rental which he is? Very disappointing. Coulda done better with someone else for less assets given.

I think it was as much getting Kuzmenko out as bringing Lindholm in. They gambled on Kuz adapting to Tocchy hockey, and it fizzled, so getting Lindholm on an expiring deal is an improvement on an ill-fitting Kuz on a multi-year deal.

If Lindholm contributes positively before he goes to UFA, it’s not a bad deal.

Lancer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:23 am

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:35 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:26 am
Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make.

I’m starting to feel that way about the Lindholm deal, time will tell, but so far as a rental which he is? Very disappointing. Coulda done better with someone else for less assets given.

I think it was as much getting Kuzmenko out as bringing Lindholm in. They gambled on Kuz adapting to Tocchy hockey, and it fizzled, so getting Lindholm on an expiring deal is an improvement on an ill-fitting Kuz on a multi-year deal.

If Lindholm contributes positively before he goes to UFA, it’s not a bad deal.

That would make the deal even worse. A heavy price to unload Kuz.

Lindholm might turn out to be a bad deal, but let's give him the playoffs to really find out. Chef, if Lindholm scores, or even assists on the Cup winning goal, will he still be a bum?

Oh, and yeah, Messier. But I still have Residual Brett Hull Hate too.

Tciso wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:13 am if Lindholm scores, or even assists on the Cup winning goal, will he still be a bum?

Ring of Honour - Retire his number

And yes, messier is still the worst.

Topper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:40 am

Lancer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:23 am

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:35 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:26 am
Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make.

I’m starting to feel that way about the Lindholm deal, time will tell, but so far as a rental which he is? Very disappointing. Coulda done better with someone else for less assets given.

I think it was as much getting Kuzmenko out as bringing Lindholm in. They gambled on Kuz adapting to Tocchy hockey, and it fizzled, so getting Lindholm on an expiring deal is an improvement on an ill-fitting Kuz on a multi-year deal.

If Lindholm contributes positively before he goes to UFA, it’s not a bad deal.

That would make the deal even worse. A heavy price to unload Kuz.

Yup, I’m other words - throwing away a good prospect and 1st rd pick to get rid of Kuzmenko for essentially nothing, lol. How is that good? The Mikheyev signing is another colossal failure.

How could management predict Mikheyev shredding his knee? Anyone who watched him play previously can see his foot speed is 75 % of what it was two years ago. If they can bounce him in the summer for no cost, great I guess. The same people bitching about him will likely then be whining when he scores 25 goals and is a top two way/pk guy playing for another team.

Kuzmenko came in and scored 39 goals. Everyone loved the two year deal at the time. It was pretty obvious that Tocchet wasn’t a fan of the player dating back to last season. Is the coach not allowed any say in the makeup of the team? How many cups do Tocchet, Foote and Gonchar have as players and coaches? Think they might know a thing or two about winning? Or is “Tocchey Hockey” just too much for some players? It’s clear it’s too much for some fans.

Lindholm hasn’t worked out thus far. He was a legit top 4 forward in Calgary for years. The price paid was the going price for a top end forward. The 1st will be 25-32 in a weak draft. Some morons kept bleating about 2017 being a shitty draft. This is worse. So a late 1st round pick, a prospect cockblocked by Hughes and Hronek that apparently didn’t want to sign, a cap dump that the coach didn’t see a use for and a beer league scrub. I mean it’s not like burning a top 5 pick on a beer league scrub with Mathew Tkachuk sitting there.

The Kuzmenko signing didn’t work here. It was a quick pivot and now they have some breathing room next year.

If Lindholm was injured beforehand then Calgary will hopefully get a kick in the nuts by Karma. Kevin MCarthy and Harold Phillipoff are two other examples of Vancouver getting damaged goods in trades. Keith Ballard is another. Teams should be compensated for this kind of shit.

Time will tell regarding Allvin’s 3 major flubs (Mikheyev, Kuzmenko and Lindholm) but it’s not like he’s failing across the board - Joshua, Zadorov, Soucy, Hronek have been solid additions. Raty? Need time to confirm him. Time will tell if Willander and Lekkerimaki will be hits or misses however I do worry that passing on the local kid Benson could come back to bite us in the end.

Kuzmenko and Lindholm are seoerate flubs?

You do realize Mikheyhev shredded his knee here, don’t you? Is that Allvin’s fault? Imagine if you blew up one of those chicken strings playing tether ball?

Pull your head out. You defended Razor Thin Olaf for seven years. Show a little balance beneath those razor thin legs.

Hey, Allvin has done a bang up job, but no GM is without its warts and the Lindholm disaster is a venereal wart needing cauterizing. He shouldn’t have rented that hooker to begin with.

Elias Rottencrotch