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Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:57 am
by Cherry Picker
Nice job Benning.
I think he would have gotten around 3m if it had gone to arbitration.
Being under the 2.6m mark was significant. If Ferland is playing they only have to send one extra player down instead of two, and go with a 22 man roster.
I expect Ferland will be out, so it probably doesn’t matter.
Good news for the critically endangered Save Shotgun Jake Club.
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:11 am
by UWSaint
Before the RFA signings, I figured that 2019-20 Stetch + VIrtanen + Gaudette + Motte would equal an AAV of 2020-21 Virtanen + Motte + Gaudette. I was off, it was cheaper. By about the difference between 2019-20 Markstom and 2020-21 Holtby.
JB did a good job with this. He selecting the right players to let walk (Stech because he wasn't worth the QO, as the free market demonstrated; Markstom because he wasn't good enough for the retirement contract for a team with backup ready to be promoted in that time and an excellent plan B). And he signed the RFAs to reasonable and even a bit team friendly deals.
At the end of the day, take a step back. With a flat cap, this is a slightly better team than the one that started last season.
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:21 am
by Mickey107
At least it means LE can get minored. I hope! Hard to believe Zack MacEwen would most likely be next in line.
Geez, (and this is just joking), If it wasn't a good match with Horvat and Pearson on a regular basis, would that mean Brock slots in there and
JV gets to play on line 1 ?
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:24 am
by Cousin Strawberry
UWSaint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:11 am
Before the RFA signings, I figured that 2019-20 Stetch + VIrtanen + Gaudette + Motte would equal an AAV of 2020-21 Virtanen + Motte + Gaudette. I was off, it was cheaper. By about the difference between 2019-20 Markstom and 2020-21 Holtby.
JB did a good job with this. He selecting the right players to let walk (Stech because he wasn't worth the QO, as the free market demonstrated; Markstom because he wasn't good enough for the retirement contract for a team with backup ready to be promoted in that time and an excellent plan B). And he signed the RFAs to reasonable and even a bit team friendly deals.
At the end of the day, take a step back. With a flat cap, this is a slightly better team than the one that started last season.
I will go ahead and say that this team is, right now, quite a bit better seeing as their primary acquisition shored up the franchises most glaring weakness with a premium solution...defense. Tanev/Stetcher out < Schmidt/internal promotion.
The loss of Toffoli stings offensively but his presence wasn't a solution to getting pucks out of danger and up the ice.
Of course this is assuming Demko wasnt overreaching with his coming out party and is a legit 60 game/year goalie.
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:28 am
by Hockey Widow
Jake has a good trade me contract now too.
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:32 am
by Strangelove
Micky wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:21 am
At least it means LE can get minored.
LE was always going to get minored if he's still here.
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:34 am
by theman
Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:32 am
Micky wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:21 am
At least it means LE can get minored.
LE was always going to get minored if he's still here.
I would prefer he gets the "Tonya Harding" medical treatment and ends up on LTIR.
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:39 am
by ESQ
rats19 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:28 am
Good.... top lines top minutes... 25 g 25 a
If he hits that, at his cap hit, he'd be flippable for a good prospect or a 1st next off-season
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:40 am
by Mickey107
Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:32 am
Micky wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:21 am
At least it means LE can get minored.
LE was always going to get minored if he's still here.
Geez Doc! Hatchings and chickens and all that shit, mm?
I hope your right.
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:41 am
by rats19
ESQ wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:39 am
rats19 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:28 am
Good.... top lines top minutes... 25 g 25 a
If he hits that, at his cap hit, he'd be flippable for a good prospect or a 1st next off-season
If he hits that at that cap him why wouldn’t we keep him?
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:51 am
by Mickey107
Jake Virtanen talks for almost 20 minutes on Sportsnet radio and didn't even mention this:
Jeff Paterson @patersonjeff
Tyler Myers is apparently taking on the Tanev 'dad' role. Virtanen works out with him every morning in Kelowna: 'he treats me like his son'
11:28 AM · Oct 22, 2020
Talked plenty on how much JT miller had been helping him this season.
contract structure..
2020-21: $1.7M
2021-22: $3.4M
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:51 am
by Blob Mckenzie
The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:24 am
UWSaint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:11 am
Before the RFA signings, I figured that 2019-20 Stetch + VIrtanen + Gaudette + Motte would equal an AAV of 2020-21 Virtanen + Motte + Gaudette. I was off, it was cheaper. By about the difference between 2019-20 Markstom and 2020-21 Holtby.
JB did a good job with this. He selecting the right players to let walk (Stech because he wasn't worth the QO, as the free market demonstrated; Markstom because he wasn't good enough for the retirement contract for a team with backup ready to be promoted in that time and an excellent plan B). And he signed the RFAs to reasonable and even a bit team friendly deals.
At the end of the day, take a step back. With a flat cap, this is a slightly better team than the one that started last season.
I will go ahead and say that this team is, right now, quite a bit better seeing as their primary acquisition shored up the franchises most glaring weakness with a premium solution...defense. Tanev/Stetcher out < Schmidt/internal promotion.
The loss of Toffoli stings offensively but his presence wasn't a solution to getting pucks out of danger and up the ice.
Of course this is assuming Demko wasnt overreaching with his coming out party and is a legit 60 game/year goalie.
Quite a bit better? That’s a stretch. I’d still like to see another veteran defender brought in.
Schmidt >>> Tanev
Olaf/Cafferty/Brisebois << Stecher
Demko << Marky
Hawryluk <<< Toffoli
Leivo and Fantenberg are gone as well. The depth has taken a big hit. I think improvements can be made from within with guys like Petey, Hughes, Demko, Boeser improving. Shaggy Jake who the hell knows?
I hope Elmer isn’t done with this roster.
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:01 pm
by rats19
I don’t think he is quite done yet ... I hope anyways
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:02 pm
by ESQ
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:51 am
The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:24 am
UWSaint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:11 am
Before the RFA signings, I figured that 2019-20 Stetch + VIrtanen + Gaudette + Motte would equal an AAV of 2020-21 Virtanen + Motte + Gaudette. I was off, it was cheaper. By about the difference between 2019-20 Markstom and 2020-21 Holtby.
JB did a good job with this. He selecting the right players to let walk (Stech because he wasn't worth the QO, as the free market demonstrated; Markstom because he wasn't good enough for the retirement contract for a team with backup ready to be promoted in that time and an excellent plan B). And he signed the RFAs to reasonable and even a bit team friendly deals.
At the end of the day, take a step back. With a flat cap, this is a slightly better team than the one that started last season.
I will go ahead and say that this team is, right now, quite a bit better seeing as their primary acquisition shored up the franchises most glaring weakness with a premium solution...defense. Tanev/Stetcher out < Schmidt/internal promotion.
The loss of Toffoli stings offensively but his presence wasn't a solution to getting pucks out of danger and up the ice.
Of course this is assuming Demko wasnt overreaching with his coming out party and is a legit 60 game/year goalie.
Quite a bit better? That’s a stretch. I’d still like to see another veteran defender brought in.
Schmidt >>> Tanev
Olaf/Cafferty/Brisebois << Stecher
Demko << Marky
Hawryluk <<< Toffoli
Boeser ====/ >>>> Toffoli
Leivo and Fantenberg are gone as well. The depth has taken a big hit. I think improvements can be made from within with guys like Petey, Hughes, Demko, Boeser improving. Shaggy Jake who the hell knows?
I hope Elmer isn’t done with this roster.
Not getting into whether Juolevi, Rafferty or Brisebois (is he even next on the depth chart?) are or will be better than 14-minute Stecher, but Toffoli was a short-term player to replace the injured Boeser, then got hurt for most of the playoffs.
Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:03 pm
by ESQ
rats19 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:41 am
ESQ wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:39 am
rats19 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:28 am
Good.... top lines top minutes... 25 g 25 a
If he hits that, at his cap hit, he'd be flippable for a good prospect or a 1st next off-season
If he hits that at that cap him why wouldn’t we keep him?
Makin' room for Pod, maximizing value on an asset, giving Jake room to mature, and returning an asset before he needs to be signed to a UFA-years deal after scoring 25 goals, which will be $4.5-5 mil.