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Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:38 pm Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

Huberdeau is what comes to mind

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:41 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:38 pm Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

Huberdeau is what comes to mind

Well, he had one great year, and then was traded. Production dropped a lot - but how much did the trade (and linemates system) drag him down

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:38 pm Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

It happens in other sports. Look up Steve Blass. Pitcher who won 19 games in 1972. Next year, he could not throw a strike and was out of baseball a year later.

306NucksFan wrote:
I am still going to hold out hope that a shrink and someone kicking his ass this coming off season will turn him around.

Despite all the bitching people do I have noticed some positives.

- He doesn't fall down as much.
- He goes to the front of the net, often.
- He hits people.
- He takes care of his own end.

- Not true.
- That’s where he falls down.
- And falls down.
- True. Other than faceoffs he has been very good there.

What I have also noticed is his hands seem a little slow and his skating had dipped. The Hands I am confident he can recover since he is still a young man. The skating is also something he can work hard on and correct. Up the foot speed and learn some edgework from Quinn Hughes and he will be fine.

These are not insurmountable problems. You hate him, so of course you are going to magnify his flaws.

I don’t hate the player. I hate the things you just described when they are married to a player who is now the 5th highest paid guy in the league and expected to be (by this team) a franchise center.

Watch when he skates and observe that his legs are splayed at the knees. Guys who skate like this don’t develop strong edge-work because the inside skate on turns is inefficient. They also can’t generate much speed out of the gate and need a runway to get going. The Sedins skated like this. They worked on core strength and used the boards and quick short passes to each other using their twin radar. They were never fast and they were never a threat to turn on a dime or sidestep suddenly into open ice for a shot.

I won’t compare him to the Sedins tho because, for one, he has faster hands and a better shot. For two, he is more finesse and dangle than cycle-pass-shoot. And third, the Sedins were much tougher mentally.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:38 pm Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

Just production fall off or fall off right after contract?

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:44 pm

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:41 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:38 pm Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

Huberdeau is what comes to mind

Well, he had one great year, and then was traded. Production dropped a lot - but how much did the trade (and linemates system) drag him down

Actually he had 4 good seasons and then a great seasons if you’re going by PPG.

Mëds wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:25 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:38 pm Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

Just production fall off or fall off right after contract?

https://x.com/taj1944/status/1892397349009244441

Smoke and mirrors, leopards don't change their spots.

Topper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:06 pm Smoke and mirrors, leopards don't change their spots.

So he'll return to a consistent greater than PPG player?

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:41 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:38 pm Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

Huberdeau is what comes to mind

Skinner

Rumours of both Florida clubs after Boeser. I don’t think they’ll want any Dmen back.
I guess they’ll want a young centre that could develop, kind of like a Raty, and a first.
Then they’ll flip the first for a scorer for the rest of this season and beyond - something like Toffoli (3x6m).
One of Soucy or Forbort could also be on the way out if they could get another top nine winger back from a contender that needs defensive depth.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:38 pm Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

Alexander Daigle

Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:12 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:38 pm Trying to think of any other players that fell off so quickly without it being injury related. I'm guessing people with a better memory (most of you) could name a couple of examples?

Alexander Daigle

He never really had an impact at the NHL level, though, did he? More of "He couldn't handle the next level up".

Assuming management and Rantanen could agree to terms on an extension, would Boeser + retention for Miko get it done?