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Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 am
by Cherry Picker
Green is trying to turn Horvat into Travis Green. He isn't that, but he is a very good center. No way I trade him. There are so many options that Green doesn't experiment with. They can put Hovat on the first line between Pettersson and Tofolli. They and put Miller on a second line with Gaudette and Jake. There are a number of combinations that aren't tried because of Green's fixation with a shut down line. They have Sutter or Beagle for that. Why make Bo focus on a role he is not the best at. He is much better at pushing offence than sitting back and trapping the other team while the air thief sucks the passion for the game and life right out of him.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:09 am
by Mickey107
They wont trade Bo, CP. His number look terrible this year on paper but we know there's more to it than that. Like you say, Green doesn't
use him in a situation where he can succeed. Too much PK time and an over use of sending him out just to take face-offs. Just "that", has
altered the way he, not only plays, but the way he sees himself. That is on Green.
Now it can be argued that Tanner Pearson is totally having a career year but then why is his plus/minus so much better then Horvat's.?
Boeser can play with Horvat and Pearson as soon as he's back. Green shouldn't put Brock right back with Petrtersson just because they're friends.
I remember a time when Horvat and Boeser looked great.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:45 pm
by Strangelove
Micky wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:09 am
Green doesn't use him in a situation where he can succeed. Too much PK time and an over use of sending him out just to take face-offs. Just "that", has altered the way he, not only plays, but the way he sees himself. That is on Green.
Bo has averaged just 25 seconds per game on the PK (3:44 0n the PP).
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:00 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Ha Mick youre busted buds...not even watching games
Tsk
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:53 am
by Mickey107
He's a bum!
https://puckbase.com/player/bo-horvat Trade him!
kidding...
He's not under paid though.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:57 am
by Chef Boi RD
The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:00 pm
Ha Mick youre busted buds...not even watching games
Tsk
Yeah wtf? Shit even my wife knows that, she doesn’t even watch games just hears me yelling at MIke Gillis as I watch games while she does the evening laundry
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:23 pm
by Mickey107
Rob Williams@RobTheHockeyGuy
#Canucks' Markstrom on his contract status: "I want to stay in Vancouver. In my mind, that’s my goal... I have no plans of leaving."
12:20 PM · Apr 22, 2020
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:28 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:57 am
Shit even my wife knows....just hears me yelling at MIke Gillis...
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:17 pm
by Strangelove
Micky wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:23 pm
Rob Williams@RobTheHockeyGuy
#Canucks' Markstrom on his contract status: "I want to stay in Vancouver. In my mind, that’s my goal... I have no plans of leaving."
12:20 PM · Apr 22, 2020
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:41 am
by SKYO
June thoughts, Tanev seems like a easy 1 year deal.
UFA Marky/Canucks are in a tough spot thanks to the expansion draft.
Does the team give Petey the Crosby/Malkin/Patrick Kane plan? 5 years lower cap hit to help keep quality depth, then the big 8 year payday after that.
Hughes do they go the Werenski route? 3 years lower cap hit $5M per?
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:11 pm
by Mickey107
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:41 am
June thoughts, Tanev seems like a easy 1 year deal.
UFA Marky/Canucks are in a tough spot thanks to the expansion draft.
Does the team give Petey the Crosby/Malkin/Patrick Kane plan? 5 years lower cap hit to help keep quality depth, then the big 8 year payday after that.
Hughes do they go the Werenski route? 3 years lower cap hit $5M per?
Agree they have to find a way to manage Pete and Quinn's next contracts.
Chris really wants to stay and he's a hell of a team guy but I think he'll test the market if the Canucks offer just one year.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:21 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Yeah..... no. You sign Petterson and Hughes to 8 year deals as soon as you can. Sure, bridge them right to UFA at 26. Make’s perfect sense to do that with your franchise players.
Why have a rib eye when you can have a box of KD?
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:33 pm
by Curmudgeon
Micky wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:11 pm
SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:41 am
June thoughts, Tanev seems like a easy 1 year deal.
UFA Marky/Canucks are in a tough spot thanks to the expansion draft.
Does the team give Petey the Crosby/Malkin/Patrick Kane plan? 5 years lower cap hit to help keep quality depth, then the big 8 year payday after that.
Hughes do they go the Werenski route? 3 years lower cap hit $5M per?
Agree they have to find a way to manage Pete and Quinn's next contracts.
Chris really wants to stay and he's a hell of a team guy but I think he'll test the market if the Canucks offer just one year.
I'd be pretty surprised if a team offered Tanev anything too lucrative with his injury history. It really affected any trade value he had when he was younger and he's not likely to get better or remain all that healthy as he gets older either. You're right though, he's a hell of a team guy and would be great to have around under team friendly circumstances.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:45 pm
by Curmudgeon
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:21 pm
Yeah..... no. You sign Petterson and Hughes to 8 year deals as soon as you can. Sure, bridge them right to UFA at 26. Make’s perfect sense to do that with your franchise players.
Why have a rib eye when you can have a box of KD?
KD with ketchup is pretty fine I'll have you know. Wouldn't that be a Canuck thing to do though? Like pulling a currency switcheroo on Bure just as he was ready to sign his deal. Sometimes this team just can't stop itself from shitting the bed.
Re: Canucks Contracts
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:08 pm
by SKYO
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:21 pm
Yeah..... no. You sign Petterson and Hughes to 8 year deals as soon as you can. Sure, bridge them right to UFA at 26. Make’s perfect sense to do that with your franchise players.
Why have a rib eye when you can have a box of KD?
If the team is playing awesome and the ownership/management/coaches are great to you in a superb city, it's a fairly confident move and a sure sign they'll re-sign without any issues. VAN is not like a shitty city like Edmonton where everyone wants to get out asap unless you're overpaid.