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Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:22 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Thanks for bolding my points ! Sutter DEFINITELY isn’t a building block. He’s an overpaid checker but at least this season he is in a proper role instead of killing offensive lines. He is finally coming a bit closer to earning his keep. Not there by any stretch but he looks a bit better. Ideally he would be getting 11-13 min of ES toi and 3-4 min of pk toi but the centre depth here is a bit lacking atm.
As has been said Sbisa had had a good 12 games or so. It doesn’t excuse the rest of the abortion of his career which you conveniently ignore.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:12 pm
by Chef Boi RD
...Bubbles goal posts are continually moving^^^^
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:15 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
RoyalDude wrote:...Bubbles goal posts are continually moving^^^^
Not really but I give you guys an A for effort. I got a sore foot from all the ass I’ve been kicking
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:16 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
As has been said Sbisa had had a good 12 games or so. It doesn’t excuse the rest of the abortion of his career which you conveniently ignore.
Conveniently ignored....... how convenient
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:16 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Island Nucklehead wrote:Topper wrote:
Stalwart Luca Sbisa has the second highest ATOI for the Au Nights
not sure what the point is here. Are you saying Benning is a moron for exposing him?
Garrison vs. Sbisa:
Garrison had 49 pts (15G) and was +13 in 128 GP for Vancouver playing 21 mins/game and was turned into a 2nd round pick.
Sbisa had 32 pts (7G) and was -4 in 199 GP, playing 18 mins/night and was given away for nothing.
lol it's okay to crawl out of Jimbo's ass for air once in a while.
And now back to the future - Garrison and his $5.5 million is waived and Sbisa is having a stellar year in the final year of $3.6 million per contract
Didn't Yzerman have to throw in picks for LV to take that tire fire off their hands. Garrison - another Gillis beauty. Right up there with Buyout Booith and Buyout Ballard
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:36 pm
by Strangelove
Blob Mckenzie wrote:the picks I didn’t like pissed away were the two gifted 2nds in the Sutter and Gudbranson trades. The Vey and Pedan trades and the Forsling blunder. That’s three seconds, a third and a high end young d man.
For the 20th time, the Sutter trade involved a
9-spot pick upgrade.
McCann + 2nd for Gudbranson = fair trade.
The Vey trade was actually Garrison for Vey.
(LA wanted a 2nd for Vey so GMJB got one from TB and immediately sent it to LA for Vey)
Pedan was worth a 3rd at the time and helped us get Pouliot.
If Forsling was still here you'd be whining about yet another weeny on the team.
An "offensive" weeny who hasn't done anything in an extremely sheltered role...
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:37 pm
by Strangelove
RoyalDude wrote:...Bubbles goal posts are continually moving^^^^
OMG so true...
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:38 pm
by Per
Think this actually belongs in this thread:
Hockey Widow wrote:Pettersson out of the U20 with an injury.
According to Växjö Lakers coach Sam Hallam, Elias is sore and needs to rest. It's nothing serious. They just feel it would be unwise to play the U20 tournament this weekend, as it would have him play several consecutive days, and that might aggravate things.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:08 am
by Hockey Widow
Per wrote:Think this actually belongs in this thread:
Hockey Widow wrote:Pettersson out of the U20 with an injury.
According to Växjö Lakers coach Sam Hallam, Elias is sore and needs to rest. It's nothing serious. They just feel it would be unwise to play the U20 tournament this weekend, as it would have him play several consecutive days, and that might aggravate things.
Thanks Per. For the update and the correct thread!
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:47 am
by Jovocop
Salo has some interesting comments on Juolevi.
Rick Dhaliwal @DhaliwalSports
Talked with Sami Salo about Olli Juolevi's development in Finland. Juolevi has 8 points in 10 games for TPS Turku. #Canucks
Salo on Juolevi : "Olli has a lot of puck skills and see's the ice well but still needs to improve his defensive awareness but over-all we are happy with his play." #Canucks
Salo : "He is calm with the puck, he makes those easy quick smart passes and stays away from those difficult passes." #Canucks
Salo on Juolevi's play in his own end : "He's had more ups and downs in that area. He needs to be tougher on loose pucks and being physical in those areas." #Canucks
Salo : "We are working with Olli on his play on his own end, he needs to improve on that for sure if he wants to be a regular NHL defenseman and he has been better in that area. ." #Canucks
Salo can see the potentional in Juolevi to be an NHL defenseman, "Absolutely, especially with his puck skills but it's early to say if he's a top 2 defenseman or a top 3 defenseman." #Canucks
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:51 am
by Mickey107
When is the last time the Canucks had a defense man that was truly excellent and consistent is his own end?
Ohlund before the eye injury?
Jovonoski ?
Maybe Bieksa was getting there before the first leg cut.
It really has been a while.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:38 pm
by Hockey Widow
micky107 wrote:When is the last time the Canucks had a defense man that was truly excellent and consistent is his own end?
Ohlund before the eye injury?
Jovonoski ?
Maybe Bieksa was getting there before the first leg cut.
It really has been a while.
Juolevi is finding out that the upward transition gets harder each level. This should be a great learning year for him. He is a huge Sami Salo fan, has a ton of respect for him. I think he will take to heart these lessons.
Salmi's job is to get him ready for the AHL.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:43 pm
by Aaronp18
micky107 wrote:When is the last time the Canucks had a defense man that was truly excellent and consistent is his own end?
Ohlund before the eye injury?
Jovonoski ?
Maybe Bieksa was getting there before the first leg cut.
It really has been a while.
Tanev
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:24 pm
by Mickey107
Aaronp18 wrote:micky107 wrote:When is the last time the Canucks had a defense man that was truly excellent and consistent is his own end?
Ohlund before the eye injury?
Jovonoski ?
Maybe Bieksa was getting there before the first leg cut.
It really has been a while.
Tanev
Ya, point taken.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:44 pm
by Topper
Aaronp18 wrote:micky107 wrote:When is the last time the Canucks had a defense man that was truly excellent and consistent is his own end?
Ohlund before the eye injury?
Jovonoski ?
Maybe Bieksa was getting there before the first leg cut.
It really has been a while.
Tanev
You'll have to forgive Fred. His mind isn't what it was 23 years ago, when he hit retirement age. It is now as sharp as the jello he's served each afternoon at the 3:30 sitting.