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donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:45 pm DeBrusk Miller Boeser

Garland Petterson Necas

Joshua Bleuger Heinen

Sherwood Suter Podz

......move Hogs out of here now

Lekkerimaki replaces Boeser next year.

that's a great top 6, but Necas isn't coming to us for free.
Doubt like hell they give him up without a roster player coming back too.

our 2025 1st, Lekkermaki or Willander, and one of our middle 6. Hoglander?

if we trade away our 1st, what will we trade at the deadline to compete with all the other teams who do the same?
if we trade away Lekkermaki or Willander we will truly have no ELC's coming down the pipe for years.. can't compete that way.

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:45 pm DeBrusk Miller Boeser

Garland Petterson Necas

Joshua Bleuger Heinen

Sherwood Suter Podz

......move Hogs out of here now

Lekkerimaki replaces Boeser next year.

If they deal Boeser I think it'd be for a Dman....

And the player who they need to get into the top 6 is Raty, whose a big body and who has shown in Abbotsford that he thinks the game at an NHL level...

Or create a kid line with Raty, Podz and Sassons...

Gotta stop expecting every spot to be taken by established NHL players...

Take care....

Lineup looks pretty close to contending status based on, as stated earlier, Demko staying healthy and EP returning to form.

I'm not going to say trade Willander, Lekkerimaki and a 1st for Necas.

But I'd certainly be willing to converse about Carolinas desired return and would listen on those items as individual units or maybe even a 2 of 3 if a bigger deal could be made (draft pick return for instance).

Could push us over the top.

I'll worry about later later.

If it's to much of an ask and hamstrings us then thanksnothanks....

These guys seem to be able to spin on the fly.

How about Zegras then Raile?

He'd love to get out of Anaheim and Verbeek has had issues with him.

Perhaps a more economical option.

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:05 pm How about Zegras then Raile?

He'd love to get out of Anaheim and Verbeek has had issues with him.

Perhaps a more economical option.

I think that one has been floated before.

Everything I've heard about Zegras is a hard pass. He's not liked or respected by his fellow players.

In general the scouting report on him is that he has good offensive IQ, better than good but not great skating, not reliable defensively, below average compete/consistency, and far below average physicality.

I can't see that being a fit with Tocchey Hockey.

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:05 pm Lineup looks pretty close to contending status based on, as stated earlier, Demko staying healthy and EP returning to form.

I'm not going to say trade Willander, Lekkerimaki and a 1st for Necas.

But I'd certainly be willing to converse about Carolinas desired return and would listen on those items as individual units or maybe even a 2 of 3 if a bigger deal could be made (draft pick return for instance).

Could push us over the top.

I'll worry about later later.

If it's to much of an ask and hamstrings us then thanksnothanks....

These guys seem to be able to spin on the fly.

How about Zegras then Raile?

He'd love to get out of Anaheim and Verbeek has had issues with him.

Perhaps a more economical option.

Seems like the vast majority of the guys on the trade block haven’t moved yet. Necas, Ehlers, Zegras, Pinto, etc - all would be good top 6 forwards on this team. Lots of time and some money left so I suspect they’ll get one of them over the summer.

Jake DeBrusk
6’1” 198, Edmonton AB

Danton Heinen
6’2” 195, Langley BC

Derek Forbort
6’4” 216, Duluth MN

Vincent Desharnais
6’7” 226, Laval PQ

Kiefer Sherwood
6’ 194, Columbus OH

Pretty clear that Canada Day had a literal meaning for the Canucks brass. Bigger, faster, heavier, harder and most definitely more Canadian …… well …… North American.

I like the moves and really the contracts given out were more than reasonable in comparison to some of the other signings today.

Summer has just begun so we’ll see if the Canucks can make another big hockey move that could push us closer to contention!

Nice well rounded July 1 IMO.

Late to the party I know, hung out in sunny South Surrey watching the kiddo at Canada Cup this weekend! Some good ball was played.

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:57 pm The knock on Debrusk is he's great one game out of 10 then dormant the other 9. In that one game he could get a hatty or 4+ pts then go long stretches where's he's invisible.

That said he scores big goals when games are on the line. There is still some scoring upside if he buys into the cult of Ricky Tocchet. It wouldn't be all that surprising to see him have 2-3 big years and score 30+ goals/70+ pts for us. He's got a shot and hella quick feet.

Well he runs hot and cold (more so than most top-6 forwards), but dormant in 9 out of 10 games?

Yeahno.

He's going to end up with an offensive centre in Miller/Petey 5-on-5.

And he's probably going to finally land permanently on a #1 power play as well.

Wouldn't surprise me if he hit "30+ goals/70+ pts for us" as you say.

He plays both wings (better on LW) and can handle both the PP and the PK.

As I said before, I've always liked De Brusk, especially in De Playoffs.

(he has always... knocks on wood... risen to the occasion)

Agreed that a Tocc-coached team is a great thing for him.

And no doubt he knows that.

Allvin said the plan is to have DeBrusk start the season on Petey's line.

I checked out HFBruins and he has a core of adoring fans.

Although a lot of them never forgave him for (sorta and briefly) requesting a trade a couple of years ago.

So they were all expecting him to walk as a UFA.

Add to that a rumour going around for some time that he was demanding $7M-per minimum to stay

... resulting in the predictable "well fuck him then" stuff flying around.

Also, Bruins are strong on the wings and weak at centre, as I'm sure most here realize.

They got what they wanted: A guy who can handle/fake being a #1 centre and a tough left side dee.

But in the process they had to let a solid top-6 winger who 'plays the right way' go.

I agree with the CC consensus, a great day by the Nuck braintrust!

It's kinda cool that 3 Bruin pals ended up on the same team.

DeBrusk and Heinen have even spent time on the same line.

rikster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:58 pm

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:45 pm DeBrusk Miller Boeser

Garland Petterson Necas

Joshua Bleuger Heinen

Sherwood Suter Podz

......move Hogs out of here now

Lekkerimaki replaces Boeser next year.

If they deal Boeser I think it'd be for a Dman....

And the player who they need to get into the top 6 is Raty, whose a big body and who has shown in Abbotsford that he thinks the game at an NHL level...

Or create a kid line with Raty, Podz and Sassons...

Gotta stop expecting every spot to be taken by established NHL players...

Take care....

Raty has lead feet. He will do well to make the league and get 5 or 6 years in as a bottom sixer. Shoe horning him into a top 6 six role right off the hop is setting him up to fail. Shit Rikster..... you are like a rock star, bounce a ferry or a bird to come over to 41 Canucks games and then find time to chill out in the Valley without chanting at the traffic. Mëds is a miserable giant prick from Whitehorse and he gets angry at the stewardesses on his 41 game a year experience.

If ai had your guys' money, I'd burn the Dude's

Stole this from another site but interesting, and shows once again how the media make shit up:

Today @ 9:04 AM ET
Some interesting tidbits from Drance:

1. Jake DeBrusk appears to have been the Canucks’ top target

The Canucks never attempted to trade for Jake Guentzel’s signing rights.

While Canucks brass loves the player and would’ve found a way to make it work if Guentzel had made it to free agency, and been open to coming out West, the club was concerned with how adding a $9-$10 million cap hit to the books might impact the team’s balance. All along they preferred the younger, more affordable option of Jake DeBrusk to punch up their top-six forward group.

Obviously the Canucks kept a tight lid on information surrounding their intentions in free agency, to the point of breaking nearly all of their own signings themselves, but multiple team sources indicated to The Athletic once the dust settled on Monday that one of the reasons Vancouver didn’t try to trade for Guentzel’s rights is that DeBrusk was their primary top-six forward target all along.

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:42 am

rikster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:58 pm

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:45 pm DeBrusk Miller Boeser

Garland Petterson Necas

Joshua Bleuger Heinen

Sherwood Suter Podz

......move Hogs out of here now

Lekkerimaki replaces Boeser next year.

If they deal Boeser I think it'd be for a Dman....

And the player who they need to get into the top 6 is Raty, whose a big body and who has shown in Abbotsford that he thinks the game at an NHL level...

Or create a kid line with Raty, Podz and Sassons...

Gotta stop expecting every spot to be taken by established NHL players...

Take care....

Raty has lead feet. He will do well to make the league and get 5 or 6 years in as a bottom sixer. Shoe horning him into a top 6 six role right off the hop is setting him up to fail. Shit Rikster..... you are like a rock star, bounce a ferry or a bird to come over to 41 Canucks games and then find time to chill out in the Valley without chanting at the traffic. Mëds is a miserable giant prick from Whitehorse and he gets angry at the stewardesses on his 41 game a year experience.

If ai had your guys' money, I'd burn the Dude's

lol, I like Raty alot...

Not sure about the lead foot concern... actually in most of the pre draft reports his skating was listed as an asset...

https://dobberprospects.com/player/aatu-raty/

And remember, at one time leading up to his draft he was predicted to go first overall by some draft sites...

And he has scored 2 goales in 15 NHL games as a 19 year old...

Still just 21 and coming off a 52 points in 72 regular season games in Abbotsford and another 4 points in 6 playoff games, for sure he gets NHL games this season...

And if he shows that he is ready for full time NHL duty, that will give management options when it comes to improving the back end...

Take care...

I agree with that Raty assessment. I think he has the potential for top six at the right time and I think if he has the season he did last year, and if the Canucks have a little extra cap, he gets a look see, more than once. Next year Suter, PDG and Boeser are FA. I don't expect him to fill Boeser's role but certainly he could replace one of Suter or PDG. They have high hopes for Sasson too, that he could be a replacement for Suter in another year. Or move up to the 3rd line after a year of Maholtra.

So we don't have a ton of grade A players but we do seem to have a few bottom 9 players ready to break through at the right time.

According to Cap friendly.

Oilers and Caps are still in cap hell, over the limit with no or not enough LTIR to assist them. Edmonton is way over the cap and still need to sign Broberg.

Who would the Canucks want from their rosters to 'help them out'? Realistic options only please.

Certainly the Canucks could trade Poolman's LTIR for a decent prospect ready to make the jump or a roster player that needs a change of scenery?

Based upon the available D, there is Justin Shultz, Nate Schmidt, Suter and Oliver Kylington. From what I can read about him in The Athletic he seems to be a risk worth taking. Had to take a year off to deal with a mental health issue but played 33 games last year with Calgary avg 17 mins a game.

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:05 pm
How about Zegras then Raile?

He'd love to get out of Anaheim and Verbeek has had issues with him.

Perhaps a more economical option.

I get what you're saying and maybe I'm picking on your comments a bit.

I'm quite happy the management isn't sitting on their hands, but at the same time I'm a little worried they go too far the other way and are trying to trade all their problems away. We traded an entire season of draft picks last year and most of those guys are no longer on the team.. at some point some problems have to either just be lived with or fixed internally.

Necas would be awesome on our team, but he'd be yet another 8+ mil guy who you gave up premium assets to acquire. I'm not sure that's the right approach.

Schedule is out:

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