W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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Topper wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:21 am 5pts in 12gms projects to a 14g, 21a, 35pt season for a guy who has pocketed $1,697,560.98 to date. That is more than Pius Suter makes for a season. The guy he insisted on being paid more than - 10g, 5a, 15pts in 14 games on pace for 59g, 29a, 88pts.

Who gave the 12yr old kid acid to read Camelot and then a video camera to make an intro movie. Or as Philomena Cunk would say, "Does Quinn Hughes cum a lot?" My kid came home from school laughing about a parody movie clip someone had done on the Canucks, grabbed his laptop to show me but couldn't sit still because he was laughing so hard.

Sloppy game, Kings looked to be playing a greasy road game, Vancouver playing pond hockey. Not surprising that some structure returned after Vancouver was down one player and the Kings down two players.

Lankinen's style looks horrible but it works. He looks to play too low, feet spread too far, a gaping 5 hole and not quite square to the shooter. A contrast to Demko's robotic big in net, hug the posts, square to all shots style.
Regarding Petey, I get the hate but he is too good to shit the bed that badly. In my highly unqualified opinion he is going where he needs to and he looks a little snake bitten. It could be he needs less people ragging on him and more people reinforcing/rewarding the behaviors that will ultimately lead to his success. Vancouver is hard on star players.

Regarding Lankinen, he has some warts but his success actually leads me to believe our defense is better than anyone is giving us credit for. Your points are valid and the guy should get scored on more. For now I'll take it though!
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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Topper wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:21 am 5pts in 12gms projects to a 14g, 21a, 35pt season for a guy who has pocketed $1,697,560.98 to date. That is more than Pius Suter makes for a season. The guy he insisted on being paid more than - 10g, 5a, 15pts in 14 games on pace for 59g, 29a, 88pts.

Who gave the 12yr old kid acid to read Camelot and then a video camera to make an intro movie. Or as Philomena Cunk would say, "Does Quinn Hughes cum a lot?" My kid came home from school laughing about a parody movie clip someone had done on the Canucks, grabbed his laptop to show me but couldn't sit still because he was laughing so hard.

Sloppy game, Kings looked to be playing a greasy road game, Vancouver playing pond hockey. Not surprising that some structure returned after Vancouver was down one player and the Kings down two players.

Lankinen's style looks horrible but it works. He looks to play too low, feet spread too far, a gaping 5 hole and not quite square to the shooter. A contrast to Demko's robotic big in net, hug the posts, square to all shots style.
I don't know. I saw a sloppy first period until the power play goal and then a Canucks team that largely frustrated the Kings all night and required the Kings to go to the trick back to draw within one. When Hughes was on the ice, the Canucks were notably better than the Kings, who themselves are likely a playoff team. When he wasn't on the ice, it was closer to a draw play. But the important part was the game had the feeling like the Kings were trying to figure the Canucks out, not the other way around, and that's a good thing.

The forward group played pretty well, the goalie played well enough, and Desharnais -- what can you say -- played. Sure, no point production from Petey, but if you are judging the process, it was a step in the right direction, and this road trip has been steps in the right direction. What's done is done in terms of lack of production to start the season; but as a predictor of future success, process does matter.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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He's a 26 year old, 6 season vet who demanded to be paid higher than Nylander. Tell me what slack he needs to be cut and how much coddling is require for his fragile ego.

He's pissing the bed while collecting the biggest cheques the organization hands out.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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UWSaint wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:10 am
Topper wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:21 am 5pts in 12gms projects to a 14g, 21a, 35pt season for a guy who has pocketed $1,697,560.98 to date. That is more than Pius Suter makes for a season. The guy he insisted on being paid more than - 10g, 5a, 15pts in 14 games on pace for 59g, 29a, 88pts.

Who gave the 12yr old kid acid to read Camelot and then a video camera to make an intro movie. Or as Philomena Cunk would say, "Does Quinn Hughes cum a lot?" My kid came home from school laughing about a parody movie clip someone had done on the Canucks, grabbed his laptop to show me but couldn't sit still because he was laughing so hard.

Sloppy game, Kings looked to be playing a greasy road game, Vancouver playing pond hockey. Not surprising that some structure returned after Vancouver was down one player and the Kings down two players.

Lankinen's style looks horrible but it works. He looks to play too low, feet spread too far, a gaping 5 hole and not quite square to the shooter. A contrast to Demko's robotic big in net, hug the posts, square to all shots style.
I don't know. I saw a sloppy first period until the power play goal and then a Canucks team that largely frustrated the Kings all night and required the Kings to go to the trick back to draw within one. When Hughes was on the ice, the Canucks were notably better than the Kings, who themselves are likely a playoff team. When he wasn't on the ice, it was closer to a draw play. But the important part was the game had the feeling like the Kings were trying to figure the Canucks out, not the other way around, and that's a good thing.

The forward group played pretty well, the goalie played well enough, and Desharnais -- what can you say -- played. Sure, no point production from Petey, but if you are judging the process, it was a step in the right direction, and this road trip has been steps in the right direction. What's done is done in terms of lack of production to start the season; but as a predictor of future success, process does matter.
I didn't rag on Deharnais because he is a project and mistakes will happen. Brannstrom being caught out on the play was equally bad.

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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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Topper wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:13 am He's a 26 year old, 6 season vet who demanded to be paid higher than Nylander. Tell me what slack he needs to be cut and how much coddling is require for his fragile ego.

He's pissing the bed while collecting the biggest cheques the organization hands out.
What you call coddling others might call leadership. Look, all I am saying is I have hope based on what I am seeing. He is in the right areas, he's playing way more physical, and other teams are playing on him like he makes $12million.

I have hope he will turn it around. And I sleep just fine knowing it's not my money 8-)
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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To a degree both arguments on the Petey question are correct…
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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rats19 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:29 am To a degree both arguments on the Petey question are correct…
Schrödinger's Petey.

Until/If he comes out his slump he both a waste of 12 million and PPG superstar.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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306NucksFan wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:01 am
Topper wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:21 am 5pts in 12gms projects to a 14g, 21a, 35pt season for a guy who has pocketed $1,697,560.98 to date. That is more than Pius Suter makes for a season. The guy he insisted on being paid more than - 10g, 5a, 15pts in 14 games on pace for 59g, 29a, 88pts.

Who gave the 12yr old kid acid to read Camelot and then a video camera to make an intro movie. Or as Philomena Cunk would say, "Does Quinn Hughes cum a lot?" My kid came home from school laughing about a parody movie clip someone had done on the Canucks, grabbed his laptop to show me but couldn't sit still because he was laughing so hard.

Sloppy game, Kings looked to be playing a greasy road game, Vancouver playing pond hockey. Not surprising that some structure returned after Vancouver was down one player and the Kings down two players.

Lankinen's style looks horrible but it works. He looks to play too low, feet spread too far, a gaping 5 hole and not quite square to the shooter. A contrast to Demko's robotic big in net, hug the posts, square to all shots style.
Regarding Petey, I get the hate but he is too good to shit the bed that badly. In my highly unqualified opinion he is going where he needs to and he looks a little snake bitten. It could be he needs less people ragging on him and more people reinforcing/rewarding the behaviors that will ultimately lead to his success. Vancouver is hard on star players.

Regarding Lankinen, he has some warts but his success actually leads me to believe our defense is better than anyone is giving us credit for. Your points are valid and the guy should get scored on more. For now I'll take it though!
The entire organization is rallying around him and preaching patience and saying all the right things.

Some players just are not play drivers in their own right when the rest of the league takes notice and decides to shut them down.

Compare Pettersson to other guys in the same pay grade as him. The difference is pretty obvious.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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He's never been a Superstar.

Never will be from what I have seen.

The Canucks have employed 1 player in their existence that could be included in a conversation regarding Superstars.

Edit...and 306, you are jumping into a years long conversation regarding EP4011.6.

Not a this season nor since contract inception discussion.

Just FYI bud.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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donlever wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:52 am
The Canucks have employed 1 player in their existence that could be included in a conversation regarding Superstars.
You’re talking about Harold Schnepts if I’m not mistaken….. :look:
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donlever wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:52 am The Canucks have employed 1 player in their existence that could be included in a conversation regarding Superstars.
I can think of 2, one is currently on the roster.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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Cornuck wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:22 am
donlever wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:52 am The Canucks have employed 1 player in their existence that could be included in a conversation regarding Superstars.
I can think of 2, one is currently on the roster.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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Yeah...not gonna debate Hughes with you...I'll give you that.

Not ready to anoint him yet personally but I'm close.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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Mëds wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:54 am
donlever wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:52 am
The Canucks have employed 1 player in their existence that could be included in a conversation regarding Superstars.
You’re talking about Harold Schnepts if I’m not mistaken….. :look:
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ Kings Nov 7/24 730 PM PST SNP

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donlever wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:52 am He's never been a Superstar.

Never will be from what I have seen.

The Canucks have employed 1 player in their existence that could be included in a conversation regarding Superstars.

Edit...and 306, you are jumping into a years long conversation regarding EP4011.6.

Not a this season nor since contract inception discussion.

Just FYI bud.
Yes 306, this debate has been ongoing for a couple of seasons now and picked up steam as discussions started on his "next contract". Unfortunately the thread was lost in the software upgrade, but I long ago started an Overrated discussion when I began to see him failing as additional attention was being paid to him by the opposition. I questioned if he was nothing but a PP dummy and how long it would take teams to figure out that a third line could be effective against him if they went physical?

Much of what we see today was discussed, though I don't thin k anyone believed it would be this bad.

He demanded the money, management relented, he isn't living up to it, nor did he arrive ready to perform.
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