The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

[BurningBeard]

There will be no moment like that. This was a tremendous victory getting rid of that contract. No one ever thought they'd be able to move it to another team.

But, it wasn't a bad contract, it was hardly a worry.

Last season was the start of the leaves being a contender in the East. They'll only get better.

And what bad contracts do they have? Clarkson? Hardly a worry. The cap is going up and they're rich and can spend to it.

[Strangelove]

^^^ LOL Beard, no wonder the Leaves always have a huge waiting list for overpriced tickets!

The morons at the centre of the universe keep on lapping up the crap de jour.

[Strangelove]

How come I never once heard Horton's deal was tougher to trade than Clarkson's?

It was never said once by anyone.

I think the point was... it doesn't need to be said.

Let's see...

Columbus has a player who will never play again and is owed $26M in real money (no insurance).

MOST teams in the league would prefer to have a guy who is owed about that much

.... but can actually play (even if he is only worth half that amount).

Now this LTIR may help the Leaves at some point in some ways, but as I said, it creates its own headaches.

You still haven't answered my question about how this LTIR room helps a rebuild team.

Rebuild teams don't usually spend to the cap (let alone go over it).

And please don't tell me they will need the LTIR to reach the cap-floor.

Overcharged Leafers would never stand for years of that kind of bullshit.

If the Leaves want to rebuild they're going to have to tear down the core.

To do that you have to get rid of Dion + Phil.

So... they get rid of those two contracts (along with Franson, Clarkson, and whoever else)

... and WHO are they going to pay to go over the cap with LTIR?

No way is a top UFA gonna signup with that mess

(unless the Leaves overpay... and that's deja vu all over again).

There is no plan in place but Leaf fans are jumping with joy.

"YAY!! We're getting rid of players and getting picks!!!"

"YAY!! Somehow that means we're gonna be a good team again like the Oil!!"

"YAY!! Our GM is awesome cuz he managed to get rid of one of the players he signed!!!"

Well they're the worst team in the league and they're not getting a sniff at McEichel.

Most of these picks are unlikely to ever turn into top-6/top-4 guys

... and even if they do make it, that's about 5 years away.

Say... doesn't Horton's LTIR run out in 5 years?

Look Tuna, I'm trying to help you.

Dump that team right now and save yourself a lifetime of misery.

THINK ABOUT IT: How and when are the Leaves ever gonna be a contender again?

[Arachnid]

Why is a thread about the leaves the hottest thread on a Canuck fan board? Fucking hell.

Follow the leader....

And who might that be?

Count her/his post totals in this thread...dread like a pasta rasta mon....

[BigTuna]

How come I never once heard Horton's deal was tougher to trade than Clarkson's?

It was never said once by anyone.

I think the point was... it doesn't need to be said.

Let's see...

Columbus has a player who will never play again and is owed $26M in real money (no insurance).

MOST teams in the league would prefer to have a guy who is owed about that much

.... but can actually play (even if he is only worth half that amount).

Now this LTIR may help the Leaves at some point in some ways, but as I said, it creates its own headaches.

You still haven't answered my question about how this LTIR room helps a rebuild team.

Rebuild teams don't usually spend to the cap (let alone go over it).

And please don't tell me they will need the LTIR to reach the cap-floor.

Overcharged Leafers would never stand for years of that kind of bullshit.

If the Leaves want to rebuild they're going to have to tear down the core.

To do that you have to get rid of Dion + Phil.

So... they get rid of those two contracts (along with Franson, Clarkson, and whoever else)

... and WHO are they going to pay to go over the cap with LTIR?

No way is a top UFA gonna signup with that mess

(unless the Leaves overpay... and that's deja vu all over again).

There is no plan in place but Leaf fans are jumping with joy.

"YAY!! We're getting rid of players and getting picks!!!"

"YAY!! Somehow that means we're gonna be a good team again like the Oil!!"

"YAY!! Our GM is awesome cuz he managed to get rid of one of the players he signed!!!"

Well they're the worst team in the league and they're not getting a sniff at McEichel.

Most of these picks are unlikely to ever turn into top-6/top-4 guys

... and even if they do make it, that's about 5 years away.

Say... doesn't Horton's LTIR run out in 5 years?

Look Tuna, I'm trying to help you.

Dump that team right now and save yourself a lifetime of misery.

THINK ABOUT IT: How and when are the Leaves ever gonna be a contender again?

You were arguing with me a few weeks ago the leaves did not have the cap room to sign Franson, Kadri, Bernier. Now you're doing a 180 and saying they can't spend to the cap.

Kadri and Bernier are due big raises. And to make it clear, they do not need to spend to the cap next season. Let them count Horton's cap hit. What does it matter?

And no chance at the top 2 picks? They currently have the 4th best statistical shot at winning the lottery.

[Topper]

Reports are Bernier is on the block.

.......riding the reimer......

HNIC crew speculating Dion gone before next season.

The team that Burke/Nonis built being taken out like the Gondola.

[Hockey Widow]

Reports are Bernier is on the block.

.......riding the reimer......

HNIC crew speculating Dion gone before next season.

The team that Burke/Nonis built being taken out like the Gondola.

Ya, reports Dianna talks involve at least three teams but the leaves will have to retain salary.

SJS interested in Bernier. They just want a young goalie.

[Hockey Widow]

The closest the leaves will come to winning a cup is winning the NHL draft lottery. Ok, if they win that one Doc, let em have it. Let em celebrate and get all brash and arrogant for the summer. Then just smile when you think of the Oilers.

I read somewhere the other day how tragically unbelievable it was that Spock died before the leaves won another cup. He was like 380 years old, or something like that.

[Strangelove]

You were arguing with me a few weeks ago the leaves did not have the cap room to sign Franson, Kadri, Bernier.

Well they traded Franson because they didn't have the cap room to re-sign him.

Then the BJs contacted them with the Horton for Clarkson offer.

BTW "a few weeks ago" was before the Leaves announced they were going full rebuild.

Now you're doing a 180 and saying they can't spend to the cap.

I didn't say they can't spend to the cap.

I said it doesn't make sense for a "rebuilding team" to spend to the cap.

no chance at the top 2 picks? They currently have the 4th best statistical shot at winning the lottery.

If they are fourth-worst in the standings at season's-end, they will have a 10.70% shot at winning the lottery.

If they are seventh-worst in the standings at season's-end, they will have a 4.70% shot at winning the lottery.

A few months ago you were calling them "Cup Contenders".

Well at least you've shut the fuck up about dat dere eh wot ole bean!

Now answer my questions...

[BingoTough]

TradeCentre: Wilson 'hates' the Maple leaves

I've been rooting against the leaves

Doesn't bear a grudge against any of the other teams he coached. Just the leaves.

For some reason I just hate the leaves

Me too

I don't want them to win

Me neither

I hope Dionne Phaneuf becomes a great leader

Keep hoping.


To be fair, he says the likes some of the people as individuals but not as a team.

[BurningBeard]

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"embarrassing"

Yeah... I'd be embarrassed too. Thanks for setting things straight Phil. It's not your fault either.

[Island Nucklehead]

http://www.tsn.ca/i-m-fed-up-over-what- ... d-1.221076

"embarrassing"

Yeah... I'd be embarrassed too. Thanks for setting things straight Phil. It's not your fault either.

lol . Yep, the same media that gives copious wristers to the team when they're winning is the same media that piles on when they're losing. Say, Phil, you wouldn't want to go play in FLORIDA or ARIZONA, where nobody gives a shit about hockey and you can laze around, eat cookies, and still collect $97,000 per game with no scrutiny, would ya?

Love the jab and Nonis, though. You're right, Phil, Dion didn't build the team, he's too busy building his suit collection.

[KeyserSoze]

How come I never once heard Horton's deal was tougher to trade than Clarkson's?

It was never said once by anyone.

Well you did refer to Horton's contract as the worst in the league (and far worse than Clarksons)...

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leaves won't be making the playoffs in 13-14. Last season was a fluke. Reimer played over his head and then came back to earth in the playoffs. Team is thin at centre, hanging their hat on Bernier who has no pedigree at this level and they gave David Clarkson a 40 point guy at best the worst contract in the NHL. Don't change Nonis! You fat chunk of shit.

Not even close. Horton got more money in Columbus and he's barely going to play this season.

And Reimer played over his head...his numbers were the same as his rookie season. Lol. The leaves are an up-and-coming powerhouse in the East.

And now, fittingly, the Leaves own it.

(And bonus points for the "up-and-coming powerhouse in the East" quote)

[Hockey Widow]

I actually give Kessel props for sticking up for Dianna. I too love the jab at management, you know, the ones that built the team. A lot of dysfunction in that room. Wonder if they will be able to complete the tear down this summer.

[vic]

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/-1997197.htm

Gall Legge Grant & Munroe LLP Release a Statement on Behalf of Their Clients Dion Phaneuf, Elisha Cuthbert and Joffrey Lupul

VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA--(Marketwired - March 3, 2015) - The following is a statement by Peter A. Gall, Q.C. of Gall Legge Grant & Munroe LLP on behalf of their clients Dion Phaneuf, his wife Elisha Cuthbert and Joffrey Lupul.

"On behalf of our clients Dion Phaneuf, his wife Elisha Cuthbert and Joffrey Lupul, we have sent a letter to TSN demanding that TSN issue a formal apology and pay a significant amount of damages to each of our clients for broadcasting a false and defamatory tweet during their trade deadline show yesterday. We are sending a similar letter to the author of the tweet, Mr. Anthony Adragna.

"It is bad enough that there are people who spend their time using social media to publish such false and malicious stories, but it is made much worse when a reputable media outlet like TSN gives broad circulation and credibility to these false stories by republishing them as TSN did.

"If TSN and Mr. Adragna do not immediately comply with the demands set out in our letters, we have instructions from our clients to immediately commence a lawsuit against them.

"Our clients will not be discussing this matter with the media. Any questions should be directed to the undersigned."