2024 Offseason - moving forward

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Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

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Canucks seemed to have filled the holes with good solid signings today, nothing flashy but nothing to worry about like some other teams have done. With the expected cap space left they should be able to get another solid D man.

With these signings I hope it means they do not need to move a 1st and we can enjoy draft day next year.
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Another guy I’d love to see them sign is Adam Boqvist. He’s been iffy defensively but away from the tire fire that is Columbus he would have to be better, and he’s a 23 year old RHD that adds a very different dimension than Juulsen.

I have to think Allvin is still looking to set up something big. Maybe he’s still in on Necas, or could go after Ehlers? He has about $5 million in space to work with and somebody has to be traded out if this happens so it’s definitely possible. Allvin likes big adds in trade and to be responsible in FA so it would be in his wheelhouse. I don’t think he’s done by any means.
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Diehard1 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:07 pm Another guy I’d love to see them sign is Adam Boqvist. He’s been iffy defensively but away from the tire fire that is Columbus he would have to be better, and he’s a 23 year old RHD that adds a very different dimension than Juulsen.

I have to think Allvin is still looking to set up something big. Maybe he’s still in on Necas, or could go after Ehlers? He has about $5 million in space to work with and somebody has to be traded out if this happens so it’s definitely possible. Allvin likes big adds in trade and to be responsible in FA so it would be in his wheelhouse. I don’t think he’s done by any means.
I was chatting with a couple buddies about Boquist... I would want Gonchar and Foote to have an interview with the kid before any offer was made. Heard rumors of him being unmotivated and entitled.. could be a reclamation project.
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Necas

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Dare to dream Diehard.

Add those 2 and a healthy Thatcher and our chances are on par with anyone in the West as long as EP steps up.
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I probably won't bother with the Abby subscription this year. I don't think they're going to be very good.

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C'mon Megs.

They signed Nate Smith to replace him.

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donlever wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:21 pm Haakanpaa
Necas

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Dare to dream Diehard.

Add those 2 and a healthy Thatcher and our chances are on par with anyone in the West as long as EP steps up.
Leves I would love Necas, helluva skater and compete level with major elite hands and brain. He’s the ideal winger for Petey but not seeing how we can make it happen unless we are willing to part with some of Willander or Lekkerimaki. Necas imo was Carolinas best player in the playoffs, he’s so noticeable when on the ice, always pushing the play making things happen

If I’m Winnipeg I’m making it happen for Necas. They have the parts to make it happen
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Hakanpaa to Hogtown :(

2 x 1.5 :twisted:
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:54 pm Hakanpaa to Hogtown :(

2 x 1.5 :twisted:
Doesn’t seem like much for him. Allvin is definitely up to something with his cap space otherwise he could have easily matched that.
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Diehard1 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:58 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:54 pm Hakanpaa to Hogtown :(

2 x 1.5 :twisted:
Doesn’t seem like much for him. Allvin is definitely up to something with his cap space otherwise he could have easily matched that.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:54 pm Leves I would love Necas, helluva skater and compete level with major elite hands and brain. He’s the ideal winger for Petey but not seeing how we can make it happen unless we are willing to part with some of Willander or Lekkerimaki. Necas imo was Carolinas best player in the playoffs, he’s so noticeable when on the ice, always pushing the play making things happen
Agree 100% with everything you said Dude.

Add him to our top 6 and we're golden.

But yeah...not likely to happen without further castration of our pipeline and even that may not be enough.

Shame.
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donlever wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:21 pm Haakanpaa
Necas

!!!!

Dare to dream Diehard.

Add those 2 and a healthy Thatcher and our chances are on par with anyone in the West as long as EP steps up.
I actually think our chances are almost as good as anybody right now.

Edmonton is the obvious favourite but they had horseshoes up their asses this year and almost no injuries - doubt that happens again, plus they lost a lot of depth with no space to replace them. I do like their addition of Arvidsson but he needs to stay healthy.

LA made some horrible signings and probably got worse losing Matt Roy.

Colorado is screwed with no cap space and multiple guys on the IR that they need to keep space for.

Dallas just signed Dumba(ss), one of the worst D in the league, and Lyubushkin, the other worst D in the league while losing Tanev and Pavelski.

Vegas lost a 40 goal scorer and haven’t replaced him yet.

Winnipeg lost most of their D corps and don’t have money to replace them.

Nashville signed some of the oldest guys in the league to long term deals - could be good or could backfire massively. Guess we’ll see.

Canucks probably stayed about the same as they were at the end of the season, at least so far, but got younger at the same time. Lindholm is better than DeBrusk but the team needed a winger much more than a center so we’ll see if it’s an improvement or not. Heinen is an improvement on Mikheyev in almost every way. Sherwood the same on Lafferty - will be nice to have a fast, physical winger who actually knows his job.

On D Forbort is a downgrade on Z, Juulsen is a lateral move on Cole. Still time and money to add on the back end though.

I think we stayed the same and most others are trending down, and almost none of them have the cap room to add more. Canucks should be a top 3-4 team in the west next year.
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Mixed feelings kinda day.

I think one thing is obvious, all those rumours linking us to be in on the tier 1 FA were BS. No way, no how, could the Canucks manage any of those contacts and stay competitive. It seems this management team thrives on hiding behind the misinformation that gets floated around. Very happy we didn't take to silly season.

I don't mind the Debrusk signing. He is a player I have always liked. I also think his cap is perfect for what he brings. Sure a 5-6 year deal would have been more palatable for us but not to him. Points wise we don't drop off from Lindholm, at least the recent carnation of Lindholm, but Lindholm plays centre and was critical for our playoff run. So we can't compare the two players at all really. Curious if we offered 7x7 what the impasse was with him. But for a savings of 2 million + per I am ok with this.

Really wanted Zadorov back. If we offered 5 per was it really all about that extra year? I am really on the fence with this one especially since we dont have a lot of kids on the left side knocking on the door over the next few years. But of course bringing him back means no to the other two forwards we landed today, Sherwood and Heinen.

Sherwood is an upgrade on the bottom six. A big asshole who can lay some punishing hits on the forecheck. Just ask Quinn. He is a very good skater with some decent speed and is a missile on the forecheck. Definitely a Tocchet type of player. He will certainly play a lot bigger than Lafferty.

Heinen I remember as being a good defensive forward with good speed. He plays a pesky type of game. TBH I dont remember much else so looking forward to seeing him in action. I think he gives us what we hoped the other Russian would at half the price. A place holder of sorts too while our young kids cook. I think he is someone who Tocchet will trust in a shut down role.

Forbort, a big bodied, stay at home, defensive defenceman. Nothing flashy. Not the greatest speed but a premier penalty killer. A Cole replacement for half the price. So really our big loss is Zadorov on the backend. We don't have the cap to replace him. We will have to hope that Juulsen and Mcward are ready for a bigger role. Ontheleft side I guess Brisbois may get another chance to be the 8th Dman.

So I am happy we didn't get silly. I see improvement up front, even if we didn't land a star top 6. But I see a backwards step on D with little to no depth. We may have to wait until the season starts to place Poolman on LTIR and see what snaps are still available.
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Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward

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donlever wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:00 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:54 pm Leves I would love Necas, helluva skater and compete level with major elite hands and brain. He’s the ideal winger for Petey but not seeing how we can make it happen unless we are willing to part with some of Willander or Lekkerimaki. Necas imo was Carolinas best player in the playoffs, he’s so noticeable when on the ice, always pushing the play making things happen
Agree 100% with everything you said Dude.

Add him to our top 6 and we're golden.

But yeah...not likely to happen without further castration of our pipeline and even that may not be enough.

Shame.
Necas would be a great add - though I’m wondering if the team doesn’t want to block Lekkerimaki so is hesitant to add him. Lekk could be ready in the next year or so - it’s his draft + 3 season this year - and should be a goal scorer right from the start.
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Stan Bowman and Joel Quenneville reinstated to the NHL today. https://x.com/reporterchris/status/1807868542487765122
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