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donlever wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:10 am He's special in the sense that no other law breaking President has ever been challenged similarly.

Otherwise called progress. Isn’t that what we are looking for in this fractured society? Or just stay status quo. Accountability? Fuck that. It’s always been that way. It’s not the future I envision for my children, hopefully. But let’s just chalk it up as wind of change thank fucking gawd.

donlever wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:10 am ... no other law breaking President has ever been challenged similarly.

So this case would seem to be a step forward for America, wouldn't you agree? Politicians on both sides will be more careful not to break the law.

As I have said before, Nixon should never have been pardoned.

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:56 am As I have said before, Nixon should never have been pardoned.

^ This.

So the "party of law and order" is undermining the legal system when they get caught.
So the "party of state's rights" doesn't believe a state has the right to prosecute criminals when it's one of them.
Seems odd that a "witch hunt" would have 12 random people bring back guilty verdicts.
trump was charged with pretty much the same crime that his lawyer went to prison for.
Yes, he will appeal and drag it out, but his defense team really didn't do much, and likely won't have any more of a case 2nd time around.
In the end, none of it matters because his followers are living in an alternate reality.

The bigger news is that his other cases are being stalled.
The supreme court should have thrown out his 'immunity' case, and instead is letting it simmer.
His hand-picked judge in Florida is delaying his document case.
His team is attacking the prosecutor in Georgia.

Thanks to his antics, lies and threats, people in the legal system and election workers fear for their safety.

Meanwhile, he raises funds for his campaign legal fees. He continues to attack anyone who dares cross him #snowflake and openly asks the oil industry for billion dollars so he can do their bidding. To meet with him used to cost about a million, now it's $25 million #grifter

It's sad when a person can't take responsibility for his own actions. In this case, it's pathetic. Then of course, there's the endless lying, threats and general lack of actual positive ideas to help the country.

Of course the media has to keep the elections close for their ratings, so they'll report on little of true substance, and just blame Biden for inflation and excuse trump's behaviour. #endlesscycle

And yes, Doc - I should head north. It's not ever going to get better down here.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:40 am his followers are living in an alternate reality.

Yes.

Today in America, hardcore Republicans are living in an alternate reality.

And today in America, hardcore Democrats are living in an alternate reality.

Hardcore Republicans/hardcore Democrats feel completely righteous and yet both have glaring blind spots.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle, but precious few Americans can exist the middle anymore.

The polarization is real, as is the growing hatred.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:40 am And yes, Doc - I should head north. It's not ever going to get better down here.

Guess why.

It would be great if both sides could wake the fuck up and embrace Truth

... but yeah, I can't see it at this point.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 1:41 pm It would be great if both sides could wake the fuck up and embrace Truth
... but yeah, I can't see it at this point.

As long as people embrace a compulsive liar, it's going to take a while.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 2:04 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 1:41 pm It would be great if both sides could wake the fuck up and embrace Truth
... but yeah, I can't see it at this point.

As long as people embrace a compulsive liar, it's going to take a while.

Yup, Joe Biden is 100% a 'compulsive liar'...

Doc - I could take you seriously if you weren't such a clown.

Time to take another break from this shitshow of a thread.

Ironic because I'm anything but the clown here.

Wake up: Liars leading both sides.

I'm saying the "clowns" are the brainwashed polarized Dems/Repubs.

The non-clowns are the few who can still see Truth.

Those in the middle, the unindoctrinated.

And sadly, I don't think you're one of them my friend...

You see Doc.... when you can't bring yourself to say anything bad about your orange hero, you're pretty much admitting you're in a cult. It's easy to say, "Both sides do it" - and give them equal weight.

Here's one from today...."Biden secretly gives Ukraine green light to hit Russia with US weapons" This is bad on many levels as we can all see.
Also his response to Israel-Gaza war is wrong, imo.

Then you have your orange hero lying this week... "I'm a political prisoner" - President Biden was “locked & loaded ready to take me out” - this is how he begs for money, and riles up his base. Dangerous stuff, really.

You likely consider yourself a centrist, but you constantly defend a person who has been found liable for sexual assault, can't run a charity organization because he's too corrupt, can't operate a business in NY because he fudges his books - but you think that's ok. He incited a mob to attack the capitol building - but you think that's ok. etc etc...

I know you're not a dumb guy, Doc, and you "see the truth" - why is it that you can't admit it when your guy is wrong?

And do we know why there is no middle anymore, just far left and far right? A Narcissist came along and decides to run for president by tapping into a “White Fear” underbelly with the help of Steve Bannon the drunk, hyped it, pumped and dumped it like a self-grandizing shit for fuck cheap car salesman canonizimg himself to the White House on the backs of uneducated rural inbred dumb fucks all in the name of going backwards - MAGA. One single douche bag of a human destroys a country all in the name of himself, a truly disgusting piece of shit.

And this is going to be the hill our good friend Doc dies on? Sad

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 3:14 pm And do we know why there is no middle anymore, just far left and far right? A Narcissist came along and decides to run for president by tapping into a “White Fear” underbelly with the help of Steve Bannon the drunk, hyped it, pumped and dumped it like a self-grandizing shit for fuck cheap car salesman canonizimg himself to the White House on the backs of uneducated rural inbred dumb fucks all in the name of going backwards - MAGA. One single douche bag of a human destroys a country all in the name of himself, a truly disgusting piece of shit.

And this is going to be the hill our good friend Doc dies on? Sad

He won’t be alone chef….

Lmao

Yeah Dude..it's alllllll Trumps fault.

The Obamadenton triplets are innocent lily white bystanders.

What a crock.

Such hypocrisy.

rats19 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 3:40 pm

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 3:14 pm And do we know why there is no middle anymore, just far left and far right? A Narcissist came along and decides to run for president by tapping into a “White Fear” underbelly with the help of Steve Bannon the drunk, hyped it, pumped and dumped it like a self-grandizing shit for fuck cheap car salesman canonizimg himself to the White House on the backs of uneducated rural inbred dumb fucks all in the name of going backwards - MAGA. One single douche bag of a human destroys a country all in the name of himself, a truly disgusting piece of shit.

And this is going to be the hill our good friend Doc dies on? Sad

He won’t be alone chef….

Good luck with that. Run to the Hill! Run for your life! - Iron Maiden

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