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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:15 pm
by Strangelove
ESQ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:11 pm
What a breath of fresh air that Leaves HFboards is compared to the Canucks board!
But someone raised an interesting point - if Marner holds out, due to LTIR and the compressed cap hit of his eventual contract, he could sign an un-matchable offer sheet on Dec 1 that would be below the 4x1sts threshold.
Wouldn't have happened with Nylander because he is so grossly overpaid, but will someone take a flyer on Marner at something under $10.5 and only give up 2x1sts, 2nd and 3rd?
OR , would somebody give Marner his 2-3 years at $8.45 mil and only give up one 1st, one 2nd and one 3rd?
Yeah, Leaves are gonna hafta sign him or trade him by the first day of the season.
(and Marner's camp knows this)
EDIT: Well maybe not quite THAT soon exactly
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:47 pm
by 2Fingers
If someone offered $8.5 couldn’t the Laughs just match it, or was that a pro rated amount???
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:55 pm
by Strangelove
Reefer2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:47 pm
If someone offered $8.5 couldn’t the Laughs just match it, or was that a pro rated amount???
It gets harder and harder for Leaves to match after the 1st day of the season.
It's complicated, it's got to do with then being near the cap and be needing to use LTIR.
But it's really because after the season starts any contract signed inflates the AAV for Season One
... while LTIR space remains the same.
Hmmm this is tough, just trust me it gets harder for the Leaves this year lol
(unlike the situation they were in last year with Nylander)
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:02 pm
by Madcombinepilot
I am pretty happy watching the laffs shed 1st round picks to get rid of crappy contracts.
Carry on!!
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:15 pm
by 2Fingers
Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:02 pm
I am pretty happy watching the laffs shed 1st round picks to get rid of crappy contracts.
Carry on!!
Any they still have no goalie and barely improved their defence for one season before they all split Stupidville.
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:23 pm
by ESQ
Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:55 pm
Hmmm this is tough, just trust me it gets harder for the Leaves this year lol
(unlike the situation they were in last year with Nylander)
Why was it different with Nylander? Were they not over the cap due to LTIR last season?
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:42 pm
by Strangelove
ESQ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:23 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:55 pm
Hmmm this is tough, just trust me it gets harder for the Leaves this year lol
(unlike the situation they were in last year with Nylander)
Why was it different with Nylander?
Were they not over the cap due to LTIR last season?
Correct, they were not.
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:09 am
by Mickey107
Reefer2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:15 pm
Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:02 pm
I am pretty happy watching the laffs shed 1st round picks to get rid of crappy contracts.
Carry on!!
Any they still have no goalie and barely improved their defence for one season before they all split Stupidville.
How LOW will Jake,(of the gardiner variety), go?
https://editorinleaf.com/2019/07/24/tor ... iner-stay/
not likely.....
As for the tending of the net? Tuna thinks Andersen is peachy..
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:46 pm
by BigTuna
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[quote=Reefer2 post_id=349440 time=1564184848 user_id=18541]
If someone offered $8.5 couldn’t the Laughs just match it, or was that a pro rated amount???
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It gets harder and harder for Leaves to match after the 1st day of the season.
It's complicated, it's got to do with then being near the cap and be needing to use LTIR.
But it's really because after the season starts any contract signed inflates the AAV for Season One
... while LTIR space remains the same.
Hmmm this is tough, just trust me it gets harder for the Leaves this year lol
(unlike the situation they were in last year with Nylander)
[/quote]
It gets easier actually
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:50 pm
by Strangelove
BigTuna wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:46 pm
It gets easier actually
If Marner were to sign a $10M AAV contract on Dec 1st the inflated
Year One cap-hit would be ~ $15M.
Recall last year Nylander signed a $6.9M AAV deal on Dec 1st and inflated
Year One cap-hit was $10.3M.
Last year however Leaves had the (non-LTIR) cap room to deal with the inflated
Year One cap-hit.
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:13 pm
by Mickey107
Tuna; why doesn't Dubas shop Nylander?
Just a stupid question.
Make a deal!
LOOK !
.................................spent.............left
Philadelphia Flyers .........$68,082,579.... $13,417,421
Columbus Blue Jackets.....$65,734,082.... $15,765,918
Colorado Avalanche.........$65,034,761.... $16,465,239
New Jersey Devils...........$64,555,000.... $16,945,000
Winnipeg Jets................$63,907,497.... $17,592,503
Ottawa Senators.............$60,860,000.... $20,640,000
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:00 pm
by Mickey107
Tuna! Marcus is a Met.
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:48 pm
by BigTuna
micky107 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:13 pm
Tuna; why doesn't Dubas shop Nylander?
Just a stupid question.
Make a deal!
LOOK !
.................................spent.............left
Philadelphia Flyers .........$68,082,579.... $13,417,421
Columbus Blue Jackets.....$65,734,082.... $15,765,918
Colorado Avalanche.........$65,034,761.... $16,465,239
New Jersey Devils...........$64,555,000.... $16,945,000
Winnipeg Jets................$63,907,497.... $17,592,503
Ottawa Senators.............$60,860,000.... $20,640,000
Why would Dubas trade a 23 year-old when his value is at it's lowest? He shot 5% last season. Kid is guaranteed to have a career year. That would be dumb.
Some of those teams can't afford to spend higher than they are right now.
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:41 pm
by Mickey107
BigTuna wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:48 pm
micky107 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:13 pm
Tuna; why doesn't Dubas shop Nylander?
Just a stupid question.
Make a deal!
Why would Dubas trade a 23 year-old when his value is at it's lowest? He shot 5% last season. Kid is guaranteed to have a career year. That would be dumb.
Some of those teams can't afford to spend higher than they are right now.
Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:54 am
by BigTuna