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vic wrote:Patrick Roy quits, looks like him and Burnaby Joe aren't on the same page or he and Joe have one idea and the owners have another...

I have thought long and hard over the course of the summer about how I might improve this team to give it the depth it needs and bring it to a higher level. To achieve this, the vision of the coach and VP-Hockey Operations needs to be perfectly aligned with that of the organization. He must also have a say in the decisions that impact the team's performance. These conditions are not currently met.

http://www.tsn.ca/roy-resigns-from-aval ... n-1.544058

Interestingly, he doesn't say anything abt Burnaby Joe, just whoever the VP of hockey Ops is. Saint Patrick was one of my fave goalies. The Avs looked great under him during that first year, but for whatever reason, the team never improved and seemed to slip backwards.

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:

vic wrote:Patrick Roy quits, looks like him and Burnaby Joe aren't on the same page or he and Joe have one idea and the owners have another...

I have thought long and hard over the course of the summer about how I might improve this team to give it the depth it needs and bring it to a higher level. To achieve this, the vision of the coach and VP-Hockey Operations needs to be perfectly aligned with that of the organization. He must also have a say in the decisions that impact the team's performance. These conditions are not currently met.

http://www.tsn.ca/roy-resigns-from-aval ... n-1.544058

Interestingly, he doesn't say anything abt Burnaby Joe, just whoever the VP of hockey Ops is. Saint Patrick was one of my fave goalies. The Avs looked great under him during that first year, but for whatever reason, the team never improved and seemed to slip backwards.

I know it's Wikipedia, but:

On May 10, 2013, the Avalanche promoted Sakic Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations. In this expanded role, Sakic has the final say on all matters regarding hockey personnel.[55] He now shares most of the duties normally held by a general manager with head coach Patrick Roy, who also doubles as vice president of hockey operations. General Manager Greg Sherman remained in his post, but now serves mainly in an advisory role to Roy and Sakic.

So if those titles are true, he's either referring to himself as "the coach and VP-Hockey Operations" or he's referring to himself as the "coach" and Joe as the "VP-Hockey Operations"

Either way, Roy just have his old team the two finger salute 1 month before players report for physicals.

I don't see what everyone's harping about. Sure Roy is arrogant, that's no surprise.

He's the coach and VP/HO. If he doesn't agree with management he should leave. You really have to read between the lines to say this is totally the result of Roy's ego. The coach is the one steering the ship on the ice, he better agree with the direction. If he doesn't show him the door.....in this case he showed himself out.

vic wrote:
I know it's Wikipedia, but:

On May 10, 2013, the Avalanche promoted Sakic Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations. In this expanded role, Sakic has the final say on all matters regarding hockey personnel.[55] He now shares most of the duties normally held by a general manager with head coach Patrick Roy, who also doubles as vice president of hockey operations. General Manager Greg Sherman remained in his post, but now serves mainly in an advisory role to Roy and Sakic.

So if those titles are true, he's either referring to himself as "the coach and VP-Hockey Operations" or he's referring to himself as the "coach" and Joe as the "VP-Hockey Operations"

Either way, Roy just have his old team the two finger salute 1 month before players report for physicals.

Hmm.. maybe it is Burnaby Joe then. I always thought those 2 got along very well, as I seemed to recall Joe brought in his old buddy Saint Patrick for the job. I guess the constant losing and with things not going well, it can change things.

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:

vic wrote:
I know it's Wikipedia, but:

On May 10, 2013, the Avalanche promoted Sakic Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations. In this expanded role, Sakic has the final say on all matters regarding hockey personnel.[55] He now shares most of the duties normally held by a general manager with head coach Patrick Roy, who also doubles as vice president of hockey operations. General Manager Greg Sherman remained in his post, but now serves mainly in an advisory role to Roy and Sakic.

So if those titles are true, he's either referring to himself as "the coach and VP-Hockey Operations" or he's referring to himself as the "coach" and Joe as the "VP-Hockey Operations"

Either way, Roy just have his old team the two finger salute 1 month before players report for physicals.

Hmm.. maybe it is Burnaby Joe then. I always thought those 2 got along very well, as I seemed to recall Joe brought in his old buddy Saint Patrick for the job. I guess the constant losing and with things not going well, it can change things.

Search the owner! TMTL... The guy owns pretty much all pro sports in the entire state.
Lots a bucks!!
I can see he may be a tad frustrated.

Really though, Joe was so vague, he's either a bold faced liar or he really is clueless as to what's going on,
OR!!! He thinks, or knows, the hammer is about to fall on him and Pat knew too so "He Did It My Way", or so the song goes...

Mëds wrote:I don't see what everyone's harping about. Sure Roy is arrogant, that's no surprise.

He's the coach and VP/HO. If he doesn't agree with management he should leave. You really have to read between the lines to say this is totally the result of Roy's ego. The coach is the one steering the ship on the ice, he better agree with the direction. If he doesn't show him the door.....in this case he showed himself out.

Because.... why NOW?

Nothing has happened since July 1 (except re-signing Barrie 2 weeks ago which Roy may not have liked).

Leaving NOW puts the Avs in a tough spot, not much time to find the right coach.

And we all know Roy has a history of hissy fits.

Sakic was surprised, it was a sudden move, put 2 + 2 together.

Roy has walked out on his team due to extreme anger issues in the past.

I was going to mention that domestic violence incident but then thought better of it.

He's walked out on his team as a player and as a coach.

Didn't he also decline the Olympics one year under speculation that he feared he would fail a drug test for PEDs?

He was hired with the promise of a role greater than coach. He obviously felt that he didn't have a strong enough say. But his timing? Ya, perfect Roy. Hit em when it hurts.

Jimmy Vesey to Canucks countdown, I'd offer max rookie contract.

SKYO wrote:Jimmy Vesey to Canucks countdown, I'd offer max rookie contract.

That's tomorrow (Monday the 15th). I see no reason not to try and try hard...go for it...

SKYO wrote:Jimmy Vesey to Canucks countdown, I'd offer max rookie contract.

Fabian Brunnström

Vermette to decide on the lottery winner tomorrow

Topper wrote:

SKYO wrote:Jimmy Vesey to Canucks countdown, I'd offer max rookie contract.

Fabian Brunnström

Vermette to decide on the lottery winner tomorrow

I'm guessing the Vesey signing will open up the floodgates for the rest of the decent UFA''s.

Verms Huds

Vrbata to sign with the Yotes tomorrow.

givemeda411 wrote:Vrbata to sign with the Yotes tomorrow.

to wander the desert for 40 years