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No way Guds signs 4.5 for 6

BladesofSteel wrote:No way Guds signs 4.5 for 6

Why's that BoS, are you thinking more or less?

A defensive specialist only has so much leverage, most comparables are putting up much more points, the best comp I can find is Hjalmarsson @ $4.1M per, next is Tanev @ $4.45M per.

So yeah in between those would suffice, I guess I was just taking into account UFA years, & remembering when Hamhuis got $4.5M per when he signed here as a UFA.

BladesofSteel wrote:No way Guds signs 4.5 for 6

You're talking about a GM that pays a 3rd line centre 4.4 million , a number 6 damn 3.6 million and a 4th line slug 2.65 million . I'll be thrilled if Ignitowski can get him for that price. He isn't exactly known as a shrewd negotiator, though the Tanev and Baertschi contracts are ok.

Blob Mckenzie wrote:

BladesofSteel wrote:No way Guds signs 4.5 for 6

You're talking about a GM that pays a 3rd line centre 4.4 million , a number 6 damn 3.6 million and a 4th line slug 2.65 million . I'll be thrilled if Ignitowski can get him for that price. He isn't exactly known as a shrewd negotiator, though the Tanev and Baertschi contracts are ok.

We're paying Horvat 4.4 and Trymakin 3.6?!??

When did I miss that?!??

Madcombinepilot wrote:

Blob Mckenzie wrote:

BladesofSteel wrote:No way Guds signs 4.5 for 6

You're talking about a GM that pays a 3rd line centre 4.4 million , a number 6 damn 3.6 million and a 4th line slug 2.65 million . I'll be thrilled if Ignitowski can get him for that price. He isn't exactly known as a shrewd negotiator, though the Tanev and Baertschi contracts are ok.

We're paying Horvat 4.4 and Trymakin 3.6?!??

When did I miss that?!??

Sutter and Sbisa

SKYO wrote:

BladesofSteel wrote:No way Guds signs 4.5 for 6

Why's that BoS, are you thinking more or less?

A defensive specialist only has so much leverage, most comparables are putting up much more points, the best comp I can find is Hjalmarsson @ $4.1M per, next is Tanev @ $4.45M per.

So yeah in between those would suffice, I guess I was just taking into account UFA years, & remembering when Hamhuis got $4.5M per when he signed here as a UFA.

Two things Guds has that your two examples don't boast, nastiness and Captain potential. While it's hard to put a number on these qualities, they are something every team desires on their blue line, and moreover Vancouver sorely lacks.

Granted, there aren't too many Gudbranson comparables throughout the league. But if he should take the next step in his development this year and establish himself as a dominant shut-down force, he could prove to be a real challenge to re-sign as a result of his unique abilities.

D-man come at a premium in the NHL today, and DD in Detroit just raised the bar for above-average top 4D.

Blob Mckenzie wrote:

Madcombinepilot wrote:

Blob Mckenzie wrote:

BladesofSteel wrote:No way Guds signs 4.5 for 6

You're talking about a GM that pays a 3rd line centre 4.4 million , a number 6 damn 3.6 million and a 4th line slug 2.65 million . I'll be thrilled if Ignitowski can get him for that price. He isn't exactly known as a shrewd negotiator, though the Tanev and Baertschi contracts are ok.

We're paying Horvat 4.4 and Trymakin 3.6?!??

When did I miss that?!??

Sutter and Sbisa

I was jerking your chain.

I was saying that we are paying Sutter 4.4 as our second line Center. We are paying the correct amount for a second line Center, but the debate should be are we paying the correct person

And I think we can all just agree that we are paying Sbisa about a million too much.

(But like I said, I was just poking da bear.. Sometimes it's entertaining to have you go off about that contract -- and its summer and I am bored ✌)

SKYO wrote: But I think for Horvat, maybe JB/TL might think about getting creative with Bo, with two options, either go long term 8 years @ $5M-$5.3M ish (taking him to 30 years of age) or bridge him 2-3 years (as I believe a 4 year contract next season would bring him to UFA).

With how Bo Horvat plays and how pro he is, I think this is the only time I think a 8 year contract would be a wise move long term for the Canucks.

Skyo, I have had similar thoughts with Bo. Lock him up early, and relatively cheaply, and if he's still a stud in 8 years, he can be extended. I like it better than a bridge contract, and then an 8 year extension that takes him to 33 or 34, where he may or not be worth it for the last few years of the contract.

Madcombinepilot wrote: its summer and I am bored ✌)

Go to the deck of a good pub, and find a waitress.

Tciso wrote:

Madcombinepilot wrote: its summer and I am bored ✌)

Go to the deck of a good pub, and find a waitress.

I have faithfully been sorting out all those ladies that will make great future single moms and helping them along their paths for years....

Tciso wrote:

SKYO wrote: But I think for Horvat, maybe JB/TL might think about getting creative with Bo, with two options, either go long term 8 years @ $5M-$5.3M ish (taking him to 30 years of age) or bridge him 2-3 years (as I believe a 4 year contract next season would bring him to UFA).

With how Bo Horvat plays and how pro he is, I think this is the only time I think a 8 year contract would be a wise move long term for the Canucks.

Skyo, I have had similar thoughts with Bo. Lock him up early, and relatively cheaply, and if he's still a stud in 8 years, he can be extended. I like it better than a bridge contract, and then an 8 year extension that takes him to 33 or 34, where he may or not be worth it for the last few years of the contract.

Give him 2 years. Takes him to 23. Then extend 8 and reassess at 31.

Since it's summer and everyone goes crazy, here, I'll show you crazy;

I would like to see the league return to 2 year EL.
I would like to see the league put a maximum term of 5 years on all contracts,(no home town extra year).
I would like to see the league put a max hard cap of 8 million per year, including bonuses, no matter how great the player is. (re-evaluate every 3 years).
I would like to see the league abolish the NMC.
I would like to see the league only accept limited NTC. (player must have no less than 8 teams he would accept a trade to which he could change once a year).
I would like to see the league abolish ALL waiver rules that restrict teams from sending players to the AHL for conditioning, re-hab from an injury or simply because they are sucking right now. (Teams could still expose players on waivers if they wanted to).

See, Ya-all thought Mick was crazy and you were right!
I'm crazy, man. CRAZY, CRAZY, CRAZY!!

Mëds wrote:

Tciso wrote:

SKYO wrote: But I think for Horvat, maybe JB/TL might think about getting creative with Bo, with two options, either go long term 8 years @ $5M-$5.3M ish (taking him to 30 years of age) or bridge him 2-3 years (as I believe a 4 year contract next season would bring him to UFA).

With how Bo Horvat plays and how pro he is, I think this is the only time I think a 8 year contract would be a wise move long term for the Canucks.

Skyo, I have had similar thoughts with Bo. Lock him up early, and relatively cheaply, and if he's still a stud in 8 years, he can be extended. I like it better than a bridge contract, and then an 8 year extension that takes him to 33 or 34, where he may or not be worth it for the last few years of the contract.

Give him 2 years. Takes him to 23. Then extend 8 and reassess at 31.

Only problem with that is his ELC expires when he's 22, so a 2 yr contract would take him to 24 and he could be dominating by then as he's played pretty well the latter half of this past season, and I think with a bit of sheltered minutes with Sutter here he could flourish points wise getting somewhat protected starts.

8 year contract extension now = overpaid first 2,3 years, worth it 2,3 years, slightly underpaid last 2,3 years, give him a raise in his 30's.

But having him locked up = priceless, less headaches, granted a 8 year contract takes him past the CBA where there could be a lockout.

If Bo and Baertschi continue on developing chemistry, he could be putting up some good points in the next couple years.

micky107 wrote: I would like to see the NHLPA strike.

FYP

Aaronp18 wrote:

micky107 wrote: I would like to see the NHLPA strike.

FYP

Ya, ya, I know they would in a second, just jokin around, sort of