Past Canuck Players

[Carl Yagro]

Whodat?

I remember how much potential rookie Brock showed that left fans drooling about him and the teams future. This also applied to rookie/sophomore EP. The Flow was so hyped and pumped up... and rightly so.

He had flair and just enough speed to take the puck off the rush, dangle and snipe... generating offence on his own. I clearly recall how he didn't have to heavily rely on another's playmaking to score goals. After the back/wrist injuries and of course the family stuff, I never really saw that rookie Brock again. He still has the scorer's mentality and IQ, but really, in only one season after this with a top-end playmaker, did we see the fulfillment of all that potential and expectation.

Too bad it happened to this very good hockey player and person. He's had a very good career so far, seems like nitpicking to say that it could have been even better up to this point.

As and aside, I still marvel at the skill of the Sedins to win the corners against everybody and blindly find wide open guys in the slot, or make simple passes over and under sticks to teammates in perfect position for high-danger scoring chances. They can't even get proper respect from their own fanbase. Truly sad.

[JelloPuddingPop]

One might wonder if Brockstar was one of the "country club" members - and simply didn't train hard enough? Especially to overcome the injuries which likely required a high than average level of attention.

I still think he had a good run with Van, filled a need a lot of teams have - and did it while being a good person. I wish they could have signed him to 6x6 and called it a day. But the Flow has to flow.

[UWSaint]

Whodat?

I remember how much potential rookie Brock showed that left fans drooling about him and the teams future. This also applied to rookie/sophomore EP. The Flow was so hyped and pumped up... and rightly so.

He had flair and just enough speed to take the puck off the rush, dangle and snipe... generating offence on his own. I clearly recall how he didn't have to heavily rely on another's playmaking to score goals. After the back/wrist injuries and of course the family stuff, I never really saw that rookie Brock again. He still has the scorer's mentality and IQ, but really, in only one season after this with a top-end playmaker, did we see the fulfillment of all that potential and expectation.

Too bad it happened to this very good hockey player and person. He's had a very good career so far, seems like nitpicking to say that it could have been even better up to this point.

As and aside, I still marvel at the skill of the Sedins to win the corners against everybody and blindly find wide open guys in the slot, or make simple passes over and under sticks to teammates in perfect position for high-danger scoring chances. They can't even get proper respect from their own fanbase. Truly sad.

Brock’s first year was full of snipes and greasy goals. He did a fair bit of nifty stickhandling in tight spaces, but I don’t recall much off the rush, and he was never a good (for nhl standards) skater. He’s not terrible, it’s just not a weapon and never was. He was individually creative, but in a half court way.

I’m not sure if his shot got a little worse; it did seem like it started taking him longer to release the sweeping wrister, which had been a weapon. Time is essential, the difference between a moving goalie and one who is square is enormous.

Brock is great in front of the net. No one on the team screens as well, and he nearly always puts a good screen before setting up for the perfect tip. (And he doesn’t get point for it). He got displaced by DeBrusk in that spot, but it was more because Brock is better than DeBrusk in other spots and DeBrusk also good net front, but more with the tips and less with the screens.

[donlever]

My opinion UW, (offering the caveat that I was watching not at all then), is that in the first goal scored in the IG I linked to, his skating, while not Necas like by any means, shows better than in recent times I've seen him play.

Also interesting to watch in that clip is Braden Point give up on the play entirely and basically coast from blueline in while watching the puck go in the net.

I guess JT Miller is not the only "star" who gives up on plays at times.

Maybe it's a Tampa thing eh.

[Carl Yagro]

If you watch most of the goals from Donald's link, that's what I meant by the "rushes" that you saw progressively less of after the Clutterbucking.

Prime example was the first goal there vs the Lightning. He looked noticeably faster (for a slug), skating through the neutral zone, dangling and sniping. Even when he fired from the slot on the other highlighted goals, he had to keep up the pace to find space in the slot to fire. I just recall many more goals on the fly in that rookie season than subsequent seasons. That's all I meant. Maybe didn't explain as well as I could have.

But I will always have a soft spot for Brock... for making Murray all salty

EDIT: Damnit, beaten by Leves shortside. Yes, that Tampa goal was vintage Flow. The Flow got backed up and it's only been dribbles ever since. But then again, maybe much has to do with changes of systems play? Who knows?

[Nuckertuzzi]

I agree. While Brock's skating has always been noticeably lacking, his first year it didn't seem as big of an issue as it has since. It seemed to be a long gradual decline. What's most apparent is that first year he actually had some play driving ability, he had more command of the puck and displayed near elite playmaking skills in finding teammates in good scoring positions. He'd gain the zone with speed and head's up scanning his surroundings, pull up and either find a teammate with a good pass or release that deadly shot. Since those early years his game had devolved to now where his 'A' play is turn and defer to the pointman because there's just no zip in his step and defenders would close in on him too quickly.

Yes, he scored 47 goals last year but still didn't resemble the same guy from those first couple of years.

[Hockey Widow]

Whodat?

I remember how much potential rookie Brock showed that left fans drooling about him and the teams future. This also applied to rookie/sophomore EP. The Flow was so hyped and pumped up... and rightly so.

He had flair and just enough speed to take the puck off the rush, dangle and snipe... generating offence on his own. I clearly recall how he didn't have to heavily rely on another's playmaking to score goals. After the back/wrist injuries and of course the family stuff, I never really saw that rookie Brock again. He still has the scorer's mentality and IQ, but really, in only one season after this with a top-end playmaker, did we see the fulfillment of all that potential and expectation.

Too bad it happened to this very good hockey player and person. He's had a very good career so far, seems like nitpicking to say that it could have been even better up to this point.

As and aside, I still marvel at the skill of the Sedins to win the corners against everybody and blindly find wide open guys in the slot, or make simple passes over and under sticks to teammates in perfect position for high-danger scoring chances. They can't even get proper respect from their own fanbase. Truly sad.

I honestly thought Brock would be our next 50 goal scorer, I was that pumped by his potential.Then he came to his second camp out of shape and got left off the team that flew to China for the preseason games.

[Cousin Strawberry]

The Flow got backed up and it's only been dribbles ever since.

Maybe he should try Flowmax...Ive heard good things

[donlever]

The Flow got backed up and it's only been dribbles ever since.

Maybe he should try Flowmax...Ive heard good things

Hey, since you brought it up, Flowmax being an Alpha blocker and all, I wonder if EP has been taking it.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Or he's on Beta boosters

[Meds]

Whodat?

I remember how much potential rookie Brock showed that left fans drooling about him and the teams future. This also applied to rookie/sophomore EP. The Flow was so hyped and pumped up... and rightly so.

He had flair and just enough speed to take the puck off the rush, dangle and snipe... generating offence on his own. I clearly recall how he didn't have to heavily rely on another's playmaking to score goals. After the back/wrist injuries and of course the family stuff, I never really saw that rookie Brock again. He still has the scorer's mentality and IQ, but really, in only one season after this with a top-end playmaker, did we see the fulfillment of all that potential and expectation.

Too bad it happened to this very good hockey player and person. He's had a very good career so far, seems like nitpicking to say that it could have been even better up to this point.

As and aside, I still marvel at the skill of the Sedins to win the corners against everybody and blindly find wide open guys in the slot, or make simple passes over and under sticks to teammates in perfect position for high-danger scoring chances. They can't even get proper respect from their own fanbase. Truly sad.

I honestly thought Brock would be our next 50 goal scorer, I was that pumped by his potential.Then he came to his second camp out of shape and got left off the team that flew to China for the preseason games.

His second camp was August/September of 2018.....his broken vertebrae occurred in March of 2018. He had a reason for being out of shape at that camp.

[Hockey Widow]

Whodat?

I remember how much potential rookie Brock showed that left fans drooling about him and the teams future. This also applied to rookie/sophomore EP. The Flow was so hyped and pumped up... and rightly so.

He had flair and just enough speed to take the puck off the rush, dangle and snipe... generating offence on his own. I clearly recall how he didn't have to heavily rely on another's playmaking to score goals. After the back/wrist injuries and of course the family stuff, I never really saw that rookie Brock again. He still has the scorer's mentality and IQ, but really, in only one season after this with a top-end playmaker, did we see the fulfillment of all that potential and expectation.

Too bad it happened to this very good hockey player and person. He's had a very good career so far, seems like nitpicking to say that it could have been even better up to this point.

As and aside, I still marvel at the skill of the Sedins to win the corners against everybody and blindly find wide open guys in the slot, or make simple passes over and under sticks to teammates in perfect position for high-danger scoring chances. They can't even get proper respect from their own fanbase. Truly sad.

I honestly thought Brock would be our next 50 goal scorer, I was that pumped by his potential.Then he came to his second camp out of shape and got left off the team that flew to China for the preseason games.

His second camp was August/September of 2018.....his broken vertebrae occurred in March of 2018. He had a reason for being out of shape at that camp.

Ya he did. He had piss poor off season training and rehabbing. Into the Da Beauty league OK. It was the start of successive training camps not ready to go. He only got serious two seasons ago.

[Meds]

No argument there Wids. We knew about Da Beauty league and that it wasn’t exactly hardcore training.

I was just clarifying that his second camp there was reason. No reason after that one because I wasn’t sure if you meant the camp for his second statistical season (which was his rookie campaign) since he joined out of college for 9 games in 2017.

When we see the player we had in 2023-24 after he put in the off-season work, I have to wonder what sort of player we missed out on.

[donlever]

Logan Stankoven was on Chiclets this week talking about his training regimen which is pretty intense.

I just can't believe all players are not equally motivated.

[donlever]

14 years ago today.

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Feeling old at all?