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Mock draft has us picking 7 th and this guy^^^

rats19 wrote:http://www.mynhldraft.com/2017/NHL-Draf ... i-Tolvanen
Mock draft has us picking 7 th and this guy^^^

The scouting write-ups sound pretty sweet and we definitely need a pure goal-scorer at this point.

Hey we're tied for 4th, and only one point out of 3rd; perhaps SOME consolation after a dismal season?!

nuckster wrote:Hey we're tied for 4th, and only one point out of 3rd; perhaps SOME consolation after a dismal season?!

Maybe a 3rd to 5th drama again

CrzyCanuck wrote:

nuckster wrote:Hey we're tied for 4th, and only one point out of 3rd; perhaps SOME consolation after a dismal season?!

Maybe a 3rd to 5th drama again

What a ball-buster that would be. Nope, I'm inclined to agree with what some others have stated: now that there's no generational talent on the table, we may just actually have a Canuck style win in the lottery - 2nd over-all. Were we to actually get first, I think I would shit my pants!

nuckster wrote:

CrzyCanuck wrote:

nuckster wrote:Hey we're tied for 4th, and only one point out of 3rd; perhaps SOME consolation after a dismal season?!

Maybe a 3rd to 5th drama again

What a ball-buster that would be. Nope, I'm inclined to agree with what some others have stated: now that there's no generational talent on the table, we may just actually have a Canuck style win in the lottery - 2nd over-all. Were we to actually get first, I think I would shit my pants!

lol nailed it nuckster, anyone can win the lotto, it's just like real life, the more you play the better the odds! You get a feeling with all these chances it's the canucks time to win it, and yes of course the year vancity wins it, it's a year with no generational players aha, but I'd be fucking ecstatic with that, all the canucks haters would laugh at our excitement but fuck em!

Hockey Widow wrote: But boy on boy would that ever make the Eriksson signing stink more than it already does.

Whadya talk Wids!?? Doc says the Eriksson signing was fine!

Which of these do we consider a good offseason for management?

A. Try to compete. Resign Miller, sign three mid-level proven NHL FA forwards to short contracts and put Boeser Goldilocks and any other young player in Utica to cook.

B. Develop own prospects at NHL level, but don't really compete. Don't resign Miller. Let Markstrom be the starter to see what they have. Sign a cheap back-up to a one year deal who will be replaced by Demko the following year. Don't sign any FA forwards and keep rolling kids in the line-up, Boeser, Boucher, Goldilocks, Jake, Chaput, Gaunce, perhaps their top draft pick.

Can you imagine the grief Benning would have to live through if he choose B with the " fans" in Vancouver. Even if B is what most critics say they want, in reality you wouldn't hear the end of their bitching about another poor record.

If I were GM, I'd definitely go A (retool) vrs B (rebuild). That way rookies can cook and the team has a chance of competing. Rookies can make the team when they are well done.

Not sure if it is time to throw the kids to the wolves Besser, Au and co are ain't ready. They'll continue to play sheltered minutes.

Bo joins the vet crew of twins/Sutter/Dorsett up front, Edler Tanev on D. Granlund and Bearchia stay on the fringe, serviceable placeholders, could stick around, could be bait.

All indications point to option A above. Benning said they will not be in the hunt for a top tier FA but perhaps a couple lower tiered FA to fill holes.

Also looking hard at moving 1-2 Dmen in a package for experienced top six help, young experienced that is. Like 24-26 age range.

Maybe he will take a run at Mat from Colorado. Not who I would choose but I don't think Taylor Hall is available

So if all goes according to his wish list, one of our "d" out for top six. Another traded for pick(s). And sign 1-2 bottom six experienced wingers?

This forces Boeser, Goldobin, Virtanen to earn a job with the Canucks.

If we draft top two I can see them rushing that pick into the NHL plus they want to sign Dahlen and get him to Utica.

I think they stay the course. Make the kids earn it, try to compete nightly, get into the playoffs and go from there.

Cherry Picker wrote:Which of these do we consider a good offseason for management?

A. Try to compete. Resign Miller, sign three mid-level proven NHL FA forwards to short contracts and put Boeser Goldilocks and any other young player in Utica to cook.

B. Develop own prospects at NHL level, but don't really compete. Don't resign Miller. Let Markstrom be the starter to see what they have. Sign a cheap back-up to a one year deal who will be replaced by Demko the following year. Don't sign any FA forwards and keep rolling kids in the line-up, Boeser, Boucher, Goldilocks, Jake, Chaput, Gaunce, perhaps their top draft pick.

Can you imagine the grief Benning would have to live through if he choose B with the " fans" in Vancouver. Even if B is what most critics say they want, in reality you wouldn't hear the end of their bitching about another poor record.

If I were GM, I'd definitely go A (retool) vrs B (rebuild). That way rookies can cook and the team has a chance of competing. Rookies can make the team when they are well done.

B is closer, except for the don't sign Miller part. Mid level FAs? Yuck.
I can't understand why so many want to bury, (ruin!), our best young talent in freakin Utica.
They don't develop there, not really. If anythink, they take a step backwards.
Look at what other teams are doing.
This town is too fearful because of Jake. Well he's a one-off and CAN'T be used as an example, why?
Cause he has a screw loose.

Don't worry micky. The kids will play.

Barring trades all of Hutton, Trymankin and Stetcher will be on the team.

Up front Baertschi, Granlund, Horvat will be on the team. Good chance Boeser makes it. Goldobin will have to earn it but with a new coach he has a better chance. Same with Virtanen.

We have room for a couple of lower tiered bottom six. Skille will be gone. Megna hopefully will be lost to expansion or in Utica. Chaput should be in Utica. Gaunce who knows, maybe Vegas takes him. Rodin who knows. Point is we have room and maybe we sign a vet or two that can be flipped at the TDD if we are out of the playoffs for some late round picks.

The good news everyone should key in on is that we are not looking to add top tier FA for big cap or LTC. Just perhaps some veteran tinkering.

Cherry Picker wrote:Which of these do we consider a good offseason for management?

A. Try to compete. Resign Miller, sign three mid-level proven NHL FA forwards to short contracts and put Boeser Goldilocks and any other young player in Utica to cook.

B. Develop own prospects at NHL level, but don't really compete. Don't resign Miller. Let Markstrom be the starter to see what they have. Sign a cheap back-up to a one year deal who will be replaced by Demko the following year. Don't sign any FA forwards and keep rolling kids in the line-up, Boeser, Boucher, Goldilocks, Jake, Chaput, Gaunce, perhaps their top draft pick.

Can you imagine the grief Benning would have to live through if he choose B with the " fans" in Vancouver. Even if B is what most critics say they want, in reality you wouldn't hear the end of their bitching about another poor record.

If I were GM, I'd definitely go A (retool) vrs B (rebuild). That way rookies can cook and the team has a chance of competing. Rookies can make the team when they are well done.

Why does A indicate a retool? Isn't that the same strategy Toronto used? Sign guys like Matthias and Parrenteau to keep kids like Nylander, Brown, Shoshnikov etc. with the Marlies? Re-upping Miller does nothing to make the team more competitive. As with the "trade the Sedins so we can really tank" argument, we're 29th with him...

I wouldn't be opposed to some camp battles, so keeping guys like Chaput/Megna/Gaunce, or adding 1-year UFA's like an Upshall or a Stallberg wouldn't be terrible. Just don't offer anyone term, if the kids can earn a spot, sweet, if not, it's not like we're pushing for a playoff spot anyways.

Cherry Picker wrote:
B. Develop own prospects at NHL level, but don't really compete. Don't resign Miller. Let Markstrom be the starter to see what they have. Sign a cheap back-up to a one year deal who will be replaced by Demko the following year. Don't sign any FA forwards and keep rolling kids in the line-up, Boeser, Boucher, Goldilocks, Jake, Chaput, Gaunce, perhaps their top draft pick.

Can you imagine the grief Benning would have to live through if he choose B with the " fans" in Vancouver. Even if B is what most critics say they want, in reality you wouldn't hear the end of their bitching about another poor record.

If I were GM, I'd definitely go A (retool) vrs B (rebuild). That way rookies can cook and the team has a chance of competing. Rookies can make the team when they are well done.

This is the biggest pile of steaming , greasy bullshit that gets perpetuated by scumbags like Ian MacIntyre and parroted by knob gobbling fans. Fans can't handle a rebuild yada yada yada..... the fans want to see a plan and see some growth not the current fiasco of throwing chunks of shit against the wall and hoping something sticks

With all the empty seats and lack of people interested at the bar the fans already don't care.

If the team wants fans back give them a reason and right now it was not WD, it is not Edler or the Sedins.