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by Strangelove » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:29 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:52 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:35 pm
Matthews has missed 34 games to injury in the last 2 seasons
... and he can't seem to get along with coaches.
I predict he will lead Salutegate Part Deux within a few years
... due to Leafers running his buddies Marleau and Zaitsev outta town.
Then he'll Leave for the desert for his 8 year contract.
LOL at your chart showing $9M
x 8 Skinner right up there with $11.634M
x 5 Matthews.
He can’t get 8 years unless leaves trade him I guess. 7 year max as a FA
Yup, when he refuses to re-sign, Leaves will trade his rights for a 3rd round pick in June 2024.
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by Strangelove » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:36 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:58 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:07 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:59 pm
Marner's ask just went up to $13M.
On an 8 year contract?
Remember, he'll prolly sign a 5 year contract so Leaves can keep the AAV down (like Matthews and Nylander).
I'd say on any contract. But in Marner's case yes, 8 years. Remember, he's a hometown kid who wants to be there long term if he can.
That's not how it works these days on contracts for young stars.
If they'll sign for $10M-per on a 5 year deal, they want $11M-per on a 6 year, $12M+ on a 7 year, $13M+ on an 8 year.
Roughly speaking.
He'd probably rather play for his hometown team, but he won't take less money.
His agent has made that clear and that his camp wants to recoup for not getting max bonuses on his ELC.
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by Hockey Widow » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:38 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:29 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:52 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:35 pm
Matthews has missed 34 games to injury in the last 2 seasons
... and he can't seem to get along with coaches.
I predict he will lead Salutegate Part Deux within a few years
... due to Leafers running his buddies Marleau and Zaitsev outta town.
Then he'll Leave for the desert for his 8 year contract.
LOL at your chart showing $9M
x 8 Skinner right up there with $11.634M
x 5 Matthews.
He can’t get 8 years unless leaves trade him I guess. 7 year max as a FA
Yup, when he refuses to re-sign, Leaves will trade his rights for a 3rd round pick in June 2014.
Like it already happened eh Doc. Or did you mean 2024
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by Strangelove » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:39 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:38 pm
Like it already happened eh Doc. Or did you mean 2024
I edited it as you were typing...
AND EDIT: It'd have to be by TDD for an 8 year, so let's just make that a 7 lol.
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by BigTuna » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:42 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:36 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:58 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:07 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:59 pm
Marner's ask just went up to $13M.
On an 8 year contract?
Remember, he'll prolly sign a 5 year contract so Leaves can keep the AAV down (like Matthews and Nylander).
I'd say on any contract. But in Marner's case yes, 8 years. Remember, he's a hometown kid who wants to be there long term if he can.
That's not how it works these days on contracts for young stars.
If they'll sign for $10M-per on a 5 year deal, they want $11M-per on a 6 year, $12M+ on a 7 year, $13M+ on an 8 year.
Roughly speaking.
He'd probably rather play for his hometown team, but he won't take less money.
His agent has made that clear and that his camp wants to recoup for not getting max bonuses on his ELC.
Who cares? Pay your stars. Don't give a Jeff Skinner after his peak years 8 million at 9 per.
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by Strangelove » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:45 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:42 pm
Who cares? Pay your stars. Don't give a Jeff Skinner after his peak years 8 million at 9 per.
It's exactly the same situation you'll be looking at for Matthews/Marner/Nylander in 5 years.
(except by then it's be waaaaaaay more of course)
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by BigTuna » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:45 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:29 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:52 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:35 pm
Matthews has missed 34 games to injury in the last 2 seasons
... and he can't seem to get along with coaches.
I predict he will lead Salutegate Part Deux within a few years
... due to Leafers running his buddies Marleau and Zaitsev outta town.
Then he'll Leave for the desert for his 8 year contract.
LOL at your chart showing $9M
x 8 Skinner right up there with $11.634M
x 5 Matthews.
He can’t get 8 years unless leaves trade him I guess. 7 year max as a FA
Yup, when he refuses to re-sign, Leaves will trade his rights for a 3rd round pick in June 2024 .
What happens if they offer him the biggest contract in history a year before he's UFA?
What's interesting is you think Arizona will sign him. Did you read the news? They could not afford to take on Phil Kessel's salary. So what changes financially for them in 5 years? They are so broke.
They can't afford a player making 6.8 million, but will give 18+ million per in 5 years?
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BigTuna on Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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by Strangelove » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:45 pm
What happens if they offer him the biggest contract in history a year before he's UFA?
He'll say "Fuck off, I wanna go home to Arizona!"
I mean if he's not a
total cripple by then.
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by BigTuna » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:45 pm
What happens if they offer him the biggest contract in history a year before he's UFA?
He'll say "Fuck off, I wanna go home to Arizona!"
OK, and will Coyotees pay him with Monopoly $?
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by Strangelove » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:48 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:45 pm
What happens if they offer him the biggest contract in history a year before he's UFA?
He'll say "Fuck off, I wanna go home to Arizona!"
OK, and will Coyotees pay him with Monopoly $?
They're gonna be a rich team by then... but Matthews will give them a hometown discount.
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BigTuna
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by BigTuna » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:56 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:48 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:45 pm
What happens if they offer him the biggest contract in history a year before he's UFA?
He'll say "Fuck off, I wanna go home to Arizona!"
OK, and will Coyotees pay him with Monopoly $?
They're gonna be a rich team by then... but Matthews will give them a hometown discount.
Well you buy stock in them then.
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by Strangelove » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:34 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:56 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:48 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 pm
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:45 pm
What happens if they offer him the biggest contract in history a year before he's UFA?
He'll say "Fuck off, I wanna go home to Arizona!"
OK, and will Coyotees pay him with Monopoly $?
They're gonna be a rich team by then... but Matthews will give them a hometown discount.
Well you buy stock in them then.
Okay then
I'll own Matthews.
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by Hockey Widow » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:55 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:39 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:38 pm
Like it already happened eh Doc. Or did you mean 2024
I edited it as you were typing...
AND EDIT: It'd have to be by TDD for an 8 year, so let's just make that a 7 lol.
As long as they sign him by July 1st they can give him 8 years. His contract isn't up until June 30th of any given year so if they trade him at the draft his final year and Arizona gets a deal done before his contract expires then ya, they can give him 8 years so stick with your original opinion.....
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by Chef Boi RD » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:34 am
Matthews is not resigning with Toronto, just accept it. He’s American
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by Meds » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:07 am
BigTuna wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:21 pm
Toronto Raptors will win the first major championship since the Blue Jays.
Since the Canadiens you mean right?
Somewhere in NW BC trying (yet again) to trade a(nother) Swede…..