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SKYO wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 10:00 am

Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 6:22 am

SKYO wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 10:30 pm lol that would be something if the NYI offersheet Marner $11.5M per & they have all their next 4 1st rounders.

Thats steep. Holy fuck no way is mitch the bitch worth 4 1sts

I think it's more along the lines of making Toronto pay full price , and Toronto won't give up Marner for picks, they'd match the offer.

Yeah, it would done just to screw with their competitor, the Leaves.

If the Leaves try to low-ball Marner, a team could offer $10,568,589 x 5 years.

(compensation = two 1sts , a 2nd, and a 3rd)

Leaves would have to match and face Matthews, Marner, and Nylander all becoming UFAs in 2024.

(not to mention all three being overpaid for the rest of their careers)

leaves trying to move out Zaitsev (5 x $4.5m left on deal.)

Elliotte:

After a difficult season, TOR and Nikita Zaitsev are working together to find him a fresh start.

He is available and we will see where it goes.

SKYO wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 1:10 pm Leaves trying to move out Zaitsev (5 x $4.5m left on deal.)

Elliotte:

After a difficult season, TOR and Nikita Zaitsev are working together to find him a fresh start.

He is available and we will see where it goes.

Really doubt they'd get much. Be a step backwards for us. He might be the sort that just decides to back to Russia
and get all the ice-time he wants. Money would be close to as good.

micky107 wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 1:35 pm

SKYO wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 1:10 pm Leaves trying to move out Zaitsev (5 x $4.5m left on deal.)

Elliotte:

After a difficult season, TOR and Nikita Zaitsev are working together to find him a fresh start.

He is available and we will see where it goes.

Really doubt they'd get much.

Zaitsev is a cap dump at this point, overpaid by at least $2M for 5 more years.

Leaves would have to add a massive sweetener to unload dat dere.

micky107 wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 1:35 pm He might be the sort that just decides to back to Russia
and get all the ice-time he wants. Money would be close to as good.

Are you kidding me?

He makes four times as much with this contract as he would in the KHL.

I'll bet he wants out of Pigtown because he is being shat upon by the fans big time.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 3:14 pm

micky107 wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 1:35 pm He might be the sort that just decides to back to Russia
and get all the ice-time he wants. Money would be close to as good.

Are you kidding me?

He makes four times as much with this contract as he would in the KHL.

I'll bet he wants out of Pigtown because he is being shat upon by the fans big time.

Ya, I know. Just trying to belittle the jerk. He's getting 2 mil. too much now., at least.

SKYO wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:43 pm "Dreger says on TSN1050 that he expects Marner's camp to take negotiations beyond July 1st.

He says he expects the Marner to visit teams starting June 26 in the RFA offersheet interview period.

Dreger says the Leaves will have to make an aggressive offer: 10+,10.5+,11+"

And all indications are that's on a 5 or 6 year term.

Marner camp asked for $8.5M x 8 last summer… Leaves said no.

Kyle 'Smiley' Dubas is the dumbest GM in professional sports...

Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 8:30 pm
Kyle 'Smiley' Dubas is the dumbest GM in professional sports...

You could be right >

So funny, the leaves are losing three of their top-4d, two as UFA and one will cost an asset to get rid of, when their D was their weak point, and will have no money to upgrade or even replace....

....and they think their window isn't closed!

So really,
“The 27-year-old blueliner informed leaves management that he is requesting a trade for personal reasons after three seasons with Toronto and GM Kyle Dubas indicated that he met with Zaitsev’s agent Daniel Milstein at the NHL Draft Combine in Buffalo on Thursday and that he will endeavor to facilitate a trade. “

He’s asked to be moved. Any trade value he had just went down.

I've done the math, Canucks can sign Marner to a 12 mil offersheet and if the leaves don't match, they can sign Karlsson for 10 mil, Boeser for 7 and keep Eriksson, Rousell and Beagle and still have about 5 mil in cap space left over.

Signing Karlsson probably entices Edler to just take 5 mil for 2 years to play with his fellow country man in the city he loves.

And they still have 5 mil in cap space.

Marner (12) - Pettersson (1.35) - Boeser (7)
Pearson (3.75) - Horvat (5.5) - Baertchi (3.36)
Eriksson (6) - Gaudette (0.916) - Virtanen (1.25)
Rousell (3) - Beagle (3) - Leivo (2.5)

Edler (5) - Karlsson (10)
Tanev (4.45) - Hughes (0.916)
Stecher (2.325) - Brisbois (0.7)

Markstrom (3.66)
Demko (1.05)

Cap Hit: 77.7 / Cap Space: 5.3

There will be enough contracts coming off the books by the time Pettersson and Hughes are up for their new deals (not to mention at least 5 mil more in cap space with increases), and it gives JB two years to find a new home for Loui

Marner is worth 4 first round picks - that lineup is a playoff lineup for the foreseeable further, no doubt in my mind. 4 picks in the 20s who will probably take a few years to pay dividends for a 21 year old (22?) who will be a stud for the next 7 years is worth it.

That's my opinion. The team is in a spot now where they can afford it - they still have the 10th this year, which will hopefully be their last pick not in the 20s for a while.

ESQ wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 9:03 am So funny, the leaves are losing three of their top-4d, two as UFA and one will cost an asset to get rid of, when their D was their weak point, and will have no money to upgrade or even replace....

....and they think their window isn't closed!

Reilly and Muzzin are their top two. The rest of the blue line is garbage. Gardener is ok but I think Dermott could replace him or Hainsey or Zaitsev. They are banking on kids like Sandin or Liljegren to make the jump. It’s a thin group for sure. They need to move a forward or three. Too too heavy.

It's unknown whether or not Dermott can become more than the 3rd pairing guy he has been for 2 seasons.

(also Dermott is out til Christmas, and it might be a tough season coming off shoulder surgery)

Liljegren can't even cut as an AHLer thus far.

Sandin had a great first season in the AHL

... but they might ruin him if they were to throw him into the NHL as a 19-year-old.

Maybe we should make a deal for their 2020 1st, might be a lottery pick.

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 1:33 pm

ESQ wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 9:03 am So funny, the leaves are losing three of their top-4d, two as UFA and one will cost an asset to get rid of, when their D was their weak point, and will have no money to upgrade or even replace....

....and they think their window isn't closed!

Reilly and Muzzin are their top two. The rest of the blue line is garbage. Gardener is ok but I think Dermott could replace him or Hainsey or Zaitsev. They are banking on kids like Sandin or Liljegren to make the jump. It’s a thin group for sure. They need to move a forward or three. Too too heavy.

Hainsey, Gardiner, and Zaitsev were #2-4 in average ice-time for the Leaves, though I didn't compare it for after the Muzzin trade.

And certainly they're garbage, but they played big minutes = that's three 20+ minute defencemen that are just walking out the door for nothing. Lets say Dermott comes back and can play in top-4 role - they still need two of Sandin, Llijegren and Rosen to turn into 20+ minute defencemen.

As I said they are too top heavy. They should trade Nylander and Kadri imho. Both guys are easily moveable

Well now there's a wee break between Dinosaurs and batters with .167 averages;
What's it gonna be. Tuna; Is Mitch sitting till November?