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Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:29 am
by Meds
JelloPuddingPop wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:50 am LA was also the league's best home team this year - by a lot. They hard match, and get great goaltending, the road is a slightly different story.

I think Edm will make a go at it, this series is destined for 7.
Kings in 5.

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:09 am
by Cousin Strawberry
The striking thing about the coil are how slow and shitty their depth are now that Mclovin, Holliday and McLeod are gone

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:12 pm
by donlever
Hockey Widow wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:17 pm Kuz with 5 points in 2 games. Are you kidding me. This is an example of the type of player we need and Tocchet could not handle.
A perhaps interesting anecdote to this is LA is one of the prime systematic defending clubs in the NHL allowing the 2nd least GA this year behind only the team with the eventual Vezina winner tending goal.

And he is playing with one of the leagues top 2 way centers.

So someone has figured something out beyond Van, Calgary and Philly.

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:21 pm
by donlever
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:09 am The striking thing about the coil are how slow and shitty their depth are now that Mclovin, Holliday and McLeod are gone
Reminds me of the Green Day song from the American Idiot LP...

Holloway

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies
This is the dawning of the rest of our lives
On Holloway! (Hey!)


Regale me on McLovin...not familiar with y'alls nickname lingo.

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:51 pm
by Meds
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:09 am The striking thing about the coil are how slow and shitty their depth are now that Mclovin, Holliday and McLeod are gone
I've wondered how much of the Oilers' problems are indirectly related to McDavid and Draisaitl.

When they aren't on the ice, particularly McDavid, the team is nest to useless. It's almost as if the rest of the team is so accustomed to those two guys carrying the load, and being able to put points up by the handful, that they haven't figured out how to do it themselves unless they are lucky enough to be out there against a mediocre opponent's 4th line and 3rd pairing.

No team has won the cup having payroll commitments that weight the total cap so heavily into a pair of players. McDavid is, for all intents and purposes, a bargain in today's cap world, but that changes after next season.

The only way that McDavid wins a Cup in Edmonton is if he pulls a Crosby and takes less than Draisaitl. The NHL maximum salary is 20% of the overall cap, next year that cap is $95M, it is projected to be $104M the following year. Last time around he took 16%. His body of work since then has been over the top, and the Oilers would never have been what they are without him. I can't see him taking less than $17M, and his agent will be going for closer to $20M considering the max will be a bit over that. If Edmonton retains his services for even that $17M, they will have committed $31M to just two players. In the regular season that seems to be workable, the two act as a 1A/1B pair of top-6 pivots who feast on the PP together. Come the playoffs the only time I have noticed Draisaitl doing much, at even strength, is when Knoblauch realizes that it's crunch time and loads the two of them up on a line together. When he does that, Edmonton tends to dominate play in the offensive zone, the trade off is that every time they aren't on the ice the other team owns a very tilted rink.

The last two games in LA have people thinking that Edmonton will be lucky to get back to Rogers for game 6. If that's the case, then Bowman has some serious work cut out for him this summer. He has to fix the crease, the blueline needs an overhaul, and they truly need players in their bottom-9 who can carry their own sticks.

There are absolutely zero options to improve upon Skinner and Pickard via free agency. In the case of Skinner, anyone taking him is doing Edmonton a favour and acquiring a $2.6M backup. So that means trading for someone, and if they are wise, they pay the price for someone established rather than take a one or two year up and coming guy who ends up cratering after they extend him to an overpriced contract.

Ekholm is the only guy in their top-4 who actually knows what it means to be reliable in your own zone. He's 34, has one year remaining, and is likely only 2 years away from being better suited to a role in the 5 spot. The lower body injury he is rehabbing right now may be something that impacts his mobility going forward accelerating the natural decline of aging defenders.

Nurse is a joke. A boat anchor of a contract that has the Oilers paying 10% of next season's salary cap to a 4/5 guy.

Bouchard may come far more cheaply than many imagined after last spring.....but his play this season might mean that any potential buyer could be acquiring another Darnell Nurse.

McDavid will be 29 before next season is halfway done, Draisaitl will be 30 this year. Aside from the aforementioned McDavid, Bouchard and Pod are their only players who take regular shifts that are under the age of 30.

I'd say the McDavid Oilers have one more shot at a Cup (next season).....and if they fall short, I can see this becoming a 32 year-old Leon's team as McDavid takes his show elsewhere looking for a shot at the grail.

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:04 pm
by donlever
McDavid and Bouchard for EP DP and Willander.

:mrgreen:

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:24 pm
by Carl Yagro
Yeah, Cackling Cuz, can you 'splain you nicknames?

Thx.

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:26 pm
by JelloPuddingPop
donlever wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:21 pm Regale me on McLovin...not familiar with y'alls nickname lingo.
Warren Foegele

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:35 pm
by donlever
Gotcha.

Broberg could be added to the Cuz list as well.

Whatever his nick might be.

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:49 pm
by Meds
donlever wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:35 pm Gotcha.

Broberg could be added to the Cuz list as well.

Whatever his nick might be.
Probably Brind'amour-Stevens-esque.

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:59 pm
by Carl Yagro
Just realized some fan gave Foegele the McLovin nickname years ago. It wasn't a Cuz-creation.

Anything beats a Snoozi nick, amirite? :wink:

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:35 pm
by 2Fingers
Carl Yagro wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:59 pm
Anything beats a Snoozi nick, amirite? :wink:
Yes you are right.

Oilers are getting what they deserve based upon past history of how the players/team played.

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:07 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Superbad...the nerd named Fogell used the fake ID with the name McLovin

:scowl:

Y'all should know this

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:55 pm
by donlever
Superbad?

Wasn't that like a kids cartoon or something?

McLovin from the DP show I know.

Re: 2024-25 OOTS: Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:12 pm
by Carl Yagro
Ottawa will learn from this experience and be motivated to come back stronger.

They got their own dragon to slay...