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Chef Boi RD wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:43 am
Hockey Widow wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:13 pm
Carl Yagro wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:43 pm Just checking in to see if Cuz is alright... 3 more years of Giraffephobia. :lol:

Bluegear was a great signing.

Not so thrilled with Jeremy's contract and term, but pretty much expected it.

Needed to retain Joshua's size and girth, but have a nagging feeling he won't fully live up to his new contract's expectations. Hope to be wrong.

Enough left for what Big Z wants?
Yes enough left for big Z but I still don't know how they plan to land a true top six.

another good thing Allvin has done is that he won't have to go through this next season. The only big name that may be needing a contract is Boeser. Allvin has bought himself a few years of cap certainty.
The Canucks I believe are gonna go Las Vegas style going all in on a top winger like Guentzel and walk Boeser to UFA saying goodbye to Brock and letting Lekkerimaki fill in on Boesers spot the next season after cooking. The ELC on Lekkerimaki is something they are relying on. It’s all about the playoffs currently, they like the idea of having both Boeser and Guentzel on the wings on the top two lines for another playoff run. The Vegas style year by year playoff building and reinvent the next year, it’s a new style of cap managing for post season playoff Haves like Vegas and now the Canucks, whereby players like Boeser are walked to UFA and said goodbye to all in the name of Lord Stanley. I think it’s a smart move as it’s all about winning the cup when you’re in the position to, strike while the irons hot, unfortunately sacrifices (losing Boeser for nothing) have to be accepted. The rebuild era is over.
You don't lose him for nothing. You use him as a year long rental and you gain cap space. Cap space always matters. Doesn't matter if you are competitive/contender or in a rebuild.
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"Cap space matters in a rebuild." - Blob Mckenzie, a thousand times

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Strangelove wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:34 pm "Cap space matters in a rebuild." - Blob Mckenzie, a thousand times

"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." - Joseph Goebbels
Spew a quote where the owners and managers back up your ridiculous claim that it doesn't matter.
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The entire 1st round has been dominated by Canadians. Three from BC in the first 6 picks
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:08 pm
Strangelove wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:34 pm "Cap space matters in a rebuild." - Blob Mckenzie, a thousand times

"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." - Joseph Goebbels
Spew a quote where the owners and managers back up your ridiculous claim that it doesn't matter.
I don't think you believed your "lie" the first few hundred times you stated it... but you do now.

Goebbels was right.

Has a team in a rebuild ever tried to "clear cap space"?

No, only teams trying to compete for the playoffs/Cup try to clear cap space.

Cap space doesn't matter in a rebuild.

And what kind of team usually takes on bad cap from a team trying to compete for the playoffs/Cup?

A rebuilding team.

And why is that?

Cap space doesn't matter in a rebuild.
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UWSaint wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:27 pm. There are options, and this group also knows how to take advantage of in season opportunities.
^this right here^

Topper isn't buying in...yet... but I'm a fan. They do not sit on their hands and that is the best case Ontario for us fans with attention deficit or short term memory issues
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Strangelove wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:50 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:08 pm
Strangelove wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:34 pm "Cap space matters in a rebuild." - Blob Mckenzie, a thousand times

"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." - Joseph Goebbels
Spew a quote where the owners and managers back up your ridiculous claim that it doesn't matter.
I don't think you believed your "lie" the first few hundred times you stated it... but you do now.

Goebbels was right.

Has a team in a rebuild ever tried to "clear cap space"?

No, only teams trying to compete for the playoffs/Cup try to clear cap space.

Cap space doesn't matter in a rebuild.

And what kind of team usually takes on bad cap from a team trying to compete for the playoffs/Cup?

A rebuilding team.

And why is that?

Cap space doesn't matter in a rebuild.
And yet has anyone in a position of authority in the NHL (like a manager a GM) ever said' "cap space doesn't matter in a rebuild"? I'd like to see you produce a quote.
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So logic and common sense aren't enough for ole Blobert. :mrgreen:

You're the one who keeps repeating cap space matters in a rebuild

... so it's on you to find a quote to support your claim. :drink:
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:00 pm Image
How often do teams announce that a player WON'T be signing? That's really a player decision and Allvin could just have left it open. Seems to be a bit of a statement about how they're going about contracts this year.
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Has the 3rd round of the draft started yet?
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Guess so, another Swede, Mëds must be excited.

https://x.com/canucks/status/1807100253 ... s1igZokqEQ
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:16 pm
Strangelove wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:50 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:08 pm
Strangelove wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:34 pm "Cap space matters in a rebuild." - Blob Mckenzie, a thousand times

"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." - Joseph Goebbels
Spew a quote where the owners and managers back up your ridiculous claim that it doesn't matter.
I don't think you believed your "lie" the first few hundred times you stated it... but you do now.

Goebbels was right.

Has a team in a rebuild ever tried to "clear cap space"?

No, only teams trying to compete for the playoffs/Cup try to clear cap space.

Cap space doesn't matter in a rebuild.

And what kind of team usually takes on bad cap from a team trying to compete for the playoffs/Cup?

A rebuilding team.

And why is that?

Cap space doesn't matter in a rebuild.
And yet has anyone in a position of authority in the NHL (like a manager a GM) ever said' "cap space doesn't matter in a rebuild"? I'd like to see you produce a quote.
Hard to see how every resource isn't useful at every stage.

As Doc says, "teams trying to compete for the playoffs/Cup try to clear cap space."

So if a rebuilding team has abundant cap space, then they can afford to take on a bad contract in a trade from a team that needs to dump salary, and pick up some more long-term assets in the exchange.

So a rebuilding team might well be advised to eat someone else's bad contract, but they should never sign overly generous ones of their own, unless they have plans to flip the contract to a contender at the deadline.
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5thhorseman wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:05 am
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:00 pm Image
How often do teams announce that a player WON'T be signing? That's really a player decision and Allvin could just have left it open. Seems to be a bit of a statement about how they're going about contracts this year.
The SN tweet mispreresents.

I read one where the team announced that they expect Zadorov will test free agency. Sounded more like they made their best offer, and it’s still on the table, but the player is going to shop around first. However, this management group has certainly not been one that sits and waits. They will keep working and looking for a replacement, and if something is there they will do it and then Zadorov will be SOL.
Somewhere in NW BC trying (yet again) to trade a(nother) Swede…..
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Canucks have taken four righties so far. Fans ought to like that.
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..and a bit of size.
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