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[Strangelove]

You always revert to name calling, do you have any other means of having an open debate?

That's not true Fish Face!!

[Strangelove]

He's right Doc
And why should he focus on your lol "discussion" with Per
You do the same thing to him as you do to everyone.
Derision, name calling and complete evasion of anything that doesn't fit your version of things.

Pot/kettle... especially that last part.

I asked you to watch "every second of Griz's videos, especially the last two".

You promised that you would... but you did not.

There is in fact a political argument to this issue that you refuse to say anything about which should prove to anyone watching that you are not being honest

OMG those videos I referred you to were all about the politicization of the AGW discussion!

Too bad you didn't watch them!!

When you went back on your word and refused to watch them

... and instead launched into an ad hominem rage (remember?)

... I rightly wrote you off as "a fully-indoctrinated goosestepping leftist" (or something like that).

The last time I "debated" you... I rightly wrote you off as "an antisemitic moron" (or something).

Harsh terms must be used for folks such as yourself, now run along Chicken Little...

[Strangelove]

So Doc, just curious... climate change debate aside, are in favour of burning fossil fuels until they run out or switching over to renewable energy?

(and no, I'm not watch any videos)

Well "burning fossil fuels until they run out" is probably the best way to postpone WWIII

... so I suppose I'm in favour of "switching over to renewable energy" asap.

You do want the second coming to hurry up and arrive!

Ah and with a simple wink you just tipped your hand.

Did I?

You are a Christian Zionist

Am I?

I suppose by that logic, truly "I'm in favour of switching over to renewable energy"!

The number of things that fly directly over your head is truly remarkable.

I am a Christian though, I've stated that more than a few times in these forums.

(you used to pretend to be the same... remember?)

That's why I dropped the "discussion" about Israeli brutality in Palestine.

Nope this is why you dropped said discussion:

http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... 83#p214183

Did you think people had forgotten about how you got nailed on all the lies you were spreading?

Typical behavior of a fully-indoctrinated goosestepping antisemitic moron...

Newbies interested in the truth about UK/moi should read a few pages of that linked thread

Watch as UK writes-off facts from encyclopedia/NY-Times/Washington-Post/etc

... as all part of some insanely massive Jewish conspiracy.

Watch as UK promotes discredited lies with his fingers in his ears, same ole, same ole...

[Strangelove]

i wish I could be as much of a man as Fred Rogers, even with his cardigans.

LOL he's not even as much of a man as Fred McFeely Rogers!!

I knew it!

Now we have Trump, Ryan, McConnell and the rest of the political class who are embarrassing as human beings.

Well each of them are better human beings than yourself... that's for damn sure!

Seriously, these men are doing great things for America, and by extension, the world.

Hillary is not up to Obama's legacy which will start with no scandals while in the White House, and move on from there.

OMG Hillary has-been, is embroiled in so many scandals already....

I point to his staying out of Syria as his best move.

Yeah ISIS also liked that "move".

(they also liked his move of massive premature withdrawal from Iraq)

His second best may be actually learning from history that Western involvement in the middle east always turns out badly.

So is that why he increased the deployment in Afghanistan right out of the chute?

Is that why he got involved in that Libyan fiasco?

I like the passion on this site but the argument has become too dependent upon certain egos who will no sooner admit they are wrong than cut off their finger.

You're talking about yourself here... right Mr Princeton?

I will always come down on the side of people who want to look after the less fortunate. Maybe some of this is due to being born that way in Grace hospital and growing up on Wall Street. i do not really know as others who go through the same or worse do better than I did, so who knows?

Hey man, I know I deal with you "less fortunate" folk rather harshly.

But it's because I love you guys, it's an intervention, tough love if you will...

[griz]

Must Watch! Kent Hovind Endorses Hillary Clinton for President :

[damonberryman]

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uh-huh

[damonberryman]

Can you please clarify the meaning of your last couple of sentences of your second paragraph? Not to sure how to take it.
If you are talking about the American and Canadian Military serving in the Middle East, well fine but you are aware that there is no draft in Canada or the U.S.
If you are talking about all the American and Canadian personnel that served, fought, contributed, and gave their lives for our Freedom since WW1 then "How dare you sir"
Please let me no so I can either apologize or get a bar of soap to wash your mouth out when you come to Van.
I'm sure I'll be apologizing, right?

Are you being serious? I would never disparage any of the men and women from WW2. They did fight for our freedom and I honour them. However, the next series of wars or police actions had nothing to do with freedom. Korea, Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan and so on have nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with the American business model. Surely you do not think Vietnam was a good idea? Even the conservatives have walked back that one. Shit. Mcnamara apologized. What about those WMD in Iraq? thank God we got them just in time eh? (that was sarcasm BTW. Based on your statement about 'how dare you sir"? I suspect you may have trouble recognizing it.)

As for washing my mouth out with soap? I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are kidding as you seem like a nice type if a bit slow. Not that my mouth does not need an occasional wash but I do not think you will be the one doing it

[griz]

Watch the exchange (2:05 to 3:13) between Samantha Power and Dana Rohrabacher about who is responsible for starting the battle for Ukraine.

[2Fingers]

Would it be any different if Donald Duck was president or Hickabob Crane?

Shit happens that 98% of the world population has no control over. Always been that way and always will be that way.

[ukcanuck]

Sorry Doc you haven't done anything except reference links to people who you believe in and call names to someone who thinks differently. I expect a more intelligent discussion from you with your point of view.

Yeah, you should probably put aside any bias you might have and re-read this thread Reef.

If you are interested in "intelligent discussion"... focus on the exchanges between Per and yours truly?

I do realize I've been "arguing with idiots" a lot in this thread...

if reef has a bias then you have given it to him:

UK Canuck

"Why did I bother?"

I ended up here as well.

True, you both ended up in the same place: Destroyed in a debate.

Thats impossible Doc whatever it it is you do it is not debate

Now run along you "goosestepping moron" until you learn how to behave in a civil debate…

Of course I forgive you Berry, you passive-aggressive dudes are always putting your foot in it.

Per makes points with a homosexual underlying flavour?


I don't even want to know how you found out Per wears a hairpiece and drives a Porsche…


Who doesn't love watching a pair of lefties in the early stages of a bromance.


Harebrained leftists conspiracy theories?
Hillarious!


Yeah well this ain't the movies Pear.


Careful Dingleberries, it's not politically correct to infer homosexuality is synonymous with leftism!


OMG wot a schmuck!!!


Lol, such a gong-show monkey…

Time to change your handle to match your tatt... "Prison Bitch".


Time to change your handle to match your tranp stamp... "Prison Bitch".


Are you for real Prison Bitch?!!


find it funny that you tree-boinkers once said particle emissions cool the Earth

Not sure if they're "dying" there Drama Queen

I'm more of a fuckyousayer to all the deluded self-righteous totalitarian folk

So much for reasoned debate eh... you goosestepping moron.

Thanks for proving my point about the typical mindless environazi.

You're assuming anthropogenic global warming is a major factor in global warming.
Isn't that exactly what assumption-making Chicken Littles are prone to do?

"red herring" ... stick to ESL buddy!

Yeah, not my problem Abdul.

Are you really this stupid?

Actually I have no idea what's going on in UK's head. And you know what.... I'm glad!

Let's face it, the guy is:

Fully indoctrinated, bat shit crazy…

Typically blind fully-indoctrinated mind-controlled goosestepping leftist

but yes, a homosexual pedophile)

But then you're a brainwashed zombie so.

your "Irish politician" friend was a PEDOPHILE

WAKE UP.... you're a 60-year-old Prison Bitch who has admittedly fried his brains for 4 decades.

I do realize I've been "arguing with idiots" a lot in this thread…

I rightly wrote you off as "an antisemitic moron”

LOL he's not even as much of a man as Fred McFeely Rogers!! I knew it!

before you wig out Doc

As I've already stated, I rather enjoy the banter and witty repartee so it doesn't bother me in the least. The ability to laugh at one's self is a useful virtue.

but lets not pretend that any of the above is meaningful as reasonable debate

[2Fingers]

to be honest I find people's comments and links can be good to read and get their opinions. I am not an expert on climate change but I know a bs story when I hear it. Anytime someone/anyone resorts to screaming or name calling I stop listening as they come across as uneducated or extremely biased.

Doc you and Top are smart guys, I do enjoy reading your posts. Maybe Tops is in the industry so he MAY have a biased opinion but one always needs to hear both sides of a story to make a better or more informed opinion. I know as what I work in the media ALWAYS shows only 1 side so they can sell advertising.

[Mickey107]

Can you please clarify the meaning of your last couple of sentences of your second paragraph? Not to sure how to take it.
If you are talking about the American and Canadian Military serving in the Middle East, well fine but you are aware that there is no draft in Canada or the U.S.
If you are talking about all the American and Canadian personnel that served, fought, contributed, and gave their lives for our Freedom since WW1 then "How dare you sir"
Please let me no so I can either apologize or get a bar of soap to wash your mouth out when you come to Van.
I'm sure I'll be apologizing, right?

Are you being serious? I would never disparage any of the men and women from WW2. They did fight for our freedom and I honour them. However, the next series of wars or police actions had nothing to do with freedom. Korea, Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan and so on have nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with the American business model. Surely you do not think Vietnam was a good idea? Even the conservatives have walked back that one. Shit. Mcnamara apologized. What about those WMD in Iraq? thank God we got them just in time eh? (that was sarcasm BTW. Based on your statement about 'how dare you sir"? I suspect you may have trouble recognizing it.)

As for washing my mouth out with soap? I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are kidding as you seem like a nice type if a bit slow. Not that my mouth does not need an occasional wash but I do not think you will be the one doing it

Korea was a mistake?
1949 is and is still proving itself to be one of the greatest threats to our and our children's/grandchildren's way of life.
Vietnam was a bad war and at a bad time. Too based on drugs and not principal.
Doesn't mean all that served should be ripped by an idiot like you.
You don't have a clue what has to do with freedom and you call me slow. LOL.
You should be locked up. Oops, sorry!
I would be the one and I can easily sense that.
Real easy to play tough guy in the cyber world, eh?
Take a cab ride........................................................

[ukcanuck]

He's right Doc
And why should he focus on your lol "discussion" with Per
You do the same thing to him as you do to everyone.
Derision, name calling and complete evasion of anything that doesn't fit your version of things.

Pot/kettle... especially that last part.

I do admit that my time on canuckscorner has darkened my sense of humour somewhat, but I've learned from the best and really it seems to be the only language you understand.

I asked you to watch "every second of MY videos, especially the last two".

You promised that you would... but you did not.

I did watch as much of your propaganda I as could stomach

I pointed out quite clearly just one simple misdirection from the facts that Molynutt provides when he claims that Cook counted almost every paper reviewed as being for AGW while in reality there were only 41 papers directly claiming AGW.

I posted the link to Cook’s abstract where in the first few sentences he lists the number of papers that are for/against and uncommitted to AGW. thereby exposing molynutt as academically dishonest

translation- Molynutt is liar and listening to anything more from him is a waste of time.

That you cant or wont admit even this simple point makes it useless to carry on any further-

However, for the shut-ins listening at home here are more critiques of your links

http://www.skepticalscience.com/david-e ... -cold.html

https://debunkingdenialism.com/2012/06/ ... l-warming/

https://www.skepticalscience.com/David_Evans_arg.htm

https://denierlist.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... vid-evans/

https://denierlist.wordpress.com

These are just a few retorts to your second link by Dr Evans courtesy of molynut

However lets go another level deeper shall we?

Who is this Dr Evans who claims that AGW science is wrong?

Dr David Evans is a former believer in GW who upon divine revelation or reviewing of new “information” is now a reformed climate skeptic. I wonder when he had such an about face?

Could it be when he was appointed to the Board of Advisors for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, a group founded to promote a "positive voice on environment and development issues?”

But what is this committee for a Constructive Tomorrow ?

The Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT) is a Conservative Washington, D.C.-based non-profit organization, founded in 1985.

CFACT Total revenues over the past three years have averaged around $3 million, as reported on the organization's IRS Form 990[ and its most recent annual audited financial statement. In 2010, nearly half of CFACT's funding came from Donors Trust, a nonprofit donor-advised fund.

In 2011, CFACT received a $1.2 million grant from Donors Trust, 40% of CFACT's revenue that year.
CFACT does not disclose its funding sources. According to CFACT, it is mainly funded by private citizens and has never sought or received money from federal, state, or local governments.

Clearly yet another bought and paid for voice for carbon burning industries

But more to the point, your links begs the inference that AGW is not supported by the overwhelming majority of scientists

However, this little snippet uncovered while background checking your links:

climate skeptics are in fact in the extreme minority

Your man Evans with CFACT orchestrated a rival conference on the same day to the Copenhagen Summit in 2009 (The conference included the 15th Conference of the Parties (COP 15) to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) and the 5th Meeting of the Parties (MOP 5) to the Kyoto Protocol.)

32,200 delegates attended COP15

While laughably, a grand total of 60 right-wing nuts of which 15 of those were journalists attended the rival conference -17 presenters speaking to an audience of 24 people...

By direct comparison of these two conferences alone, its apparent which side of the “debate” the scientific community is on. Trying to confuse the issue with half truths and misdirection as your links do is just obfuscation.

There is in fact a political argument to this issue that you refuse to say anything about which should prove to anyone watching that you are not being honest

OMG those videos I referred you to were all about the politicization of the AGW discussion!

Too bad you didn't watch them!!

Like I said I watched as much as I could stomach but seriously its like trying to read The Watchtower and Awake magazines!

A few Scientists paid by lobbyists for the oil and gas industry whose profits would be negatively affected by action against AGW. Institutions whose intentions are to eliminate government oversight and install unfettered free markets that we know from experience, only corners wealth, creates monopolies and cause economic meltdowns. Listening to youtube videos and faux newsmagazine style radio shows interviewing each other with pseudo facts, obfuscation and downright lies is barely worth the effort to pay attention for longer than maybe a minute.

but I spent considerably more than that on your links. The way I see it, you owe me an hour of my time.

… and instead launched into an ad hominem rage (remember?)

one more obfuscation hey Doc?

You intend that I am "attacking' an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.
That would work well with your tactics except your links present false evidence as facts (see links above) in such a case the credibility of Molynutt et al is a crucial factor in determining that your position is horse shit

while technically it’s an ad hominem, it is not a logical fallacy as you would sneakily intend.

... I rightly wrote you off as "a fully-indoctrinated goosestepping leftist" (or something like that).

The last time I "debated" you... I rightly wrote you off as “an antisemitic moron” (or something).

Harsh terms must be used for folks such as yourself, now run along Chicken Little…

Ah yes the obligatory name calling, accusations and an actual ad hominem logical fallacy ending.

It just wouldn't be you without it

[damonberryman]

Korea was a mistake?
1949 is and is still proving itself to be one of the greatest threats to our and our children's/grandchildren's way of life.
Vietnam was a bad war and at a bad time. Too based on drugs and not principal.
Doesn't mean all that served should be ripped by an idiot like you.
You don't have a clue what has to do with freedom and you call me slow. LOL.
You should be locked up. Oops, sorry!
I would be the one and I can easily sense that.
Real easy to play tough guy in the cyber world, eh?
Take a cab ride........................................................

I currently live in NY but next time I am in van I will let you know. Are you paying for the cab? If you do not want to be called slow then stop posting moronic statements. I do not disrespect the boys who served, and I repeat, boys, but I am not falling for the horeshit they were protecting our freedom. Are you a Yank? You sound like one. Do you place your hand over your heart when you hear the Stars and Stripes? I grew up with God Save the Queen. Read some history and then try something new. Think for yourself.

[Mickey107]

I was born at St. Vincent's Hospital in Vancouver in late 57. A Canadian citizen.
My father served in Korea with the Canadians and had his back broken but recovered.
My grandfather served for the Canadians in both WW1 and WW2. He was no boy in WW2.
My Grandmother on Dad's side was a nurse in WW1.
On my Mother's side my American Grandfather was killed in WW2.
My Grandmother worked as a maid in the U.S. then Canada.
Four of my eight Great Grand parents were born in North America, the others in England, Scotland and Ireland.
I have spent no less than 11 of my 58 years in the U.S. and have at some point visited almost all major cities.
In the late 70s and early 80s I was playing hockey in the U.S.
From 1990 to 1996 I served with both the American and Canadian militaries as a private contractor training them in Air to Air and Air to Ground Photography as aviation photography is what I did.
I've heard many, many points of view and have seen a great deal.
For the record, I am more of a science guy than a religious one and I hate war as much as anyone else but I understand it, do you?
I understand that politics can seem extremist and over passionate, do you?
Understand your adversary in debate before you put your foot in your mouth, again.
By the way, I'll yank it out for you, if you think that's safe.
You are not qualified to advise me on anything, little-big man.
You are exactly the type that one day, if not already, Is going to get shit-kicked in a road rage situation because you don't think before you spew...