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[griz]

I'll take that bet. I think Trump will win. And if Hillary wins we may all be doomed anyways.

Ok... how are we all "Doomed" if Clinton wins? Specifics please.

Some will argue, "Four more years of status-quo"

Yes keeping things going the way they are headed is reason enough to be worried.

Also,

Julian Assange Explains Why Voting for Hillary Clinton Will ‘Spread Terrorism’ : http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/ ... m_20160224

A grim Putin warns: “If it’s Hillary, it means war” : http://prntly.com/2016/06/02/a-grim-put ... means-war/

Judge tells America – If Law Enforcement Won’t Stop Hillary, Voters Have To! : http://eaglerising.com/33448/judge-tell ... s-have-to/

If Hillary can get away with all her murderous lies at this stage, it proves the system doesn't work and is rigged as Trump suggests. Anyone else would be locked up. She stole the nomination from Sanders. Maybe she'll steal the election from Trump? How is that representing the people? How is that integrity? Leadership?

[2Fingers]

Sorry Doc you haven't done anything except reference links to people who you believe in and call names to someone who thinks differently. I expect a more intelligent discussion from you with your point of view.

Yeah, you should probably put aside any bias you might have and re-read this thread Reef.

If you are interested in "intelligent discussion"... focus on the exchanges between Per and yours truly?

I do realize I've been "arguing with idiots" a lot in this thread...

You always revert to name calling, do you have any other means of having an open debate?

[Cornuck]

As for her "spreading terroism" - We'll have to see how this plays out. With luck, she'll be a little slower to go to war. But terrorism is already 'out of the bottle' and the middle east is already pretty much fucked, so I'm not sure how much more fuel to the fire she can add.

If trump is elected, you don't think that will "spread terrorism" either? You think that having a guy in charge who wants to register muslims, test them or whatever fucked up "policy" he's spewing this week will endear the US to Muslims around the world? Good luck with that

As for stealing the nomination from Sanders, that was a team effort. Again, I'm no fan of Clinton, but the Democrats had a really good idea who they were going to vote for. The media didn't help either. Clinton was as much the beneficiary of a per-determined outcome than the evil master planner.

Again, I'm not out to change your mind - it's made up - but I think the country will face larger problems under a trump presidency than a Clinton one. He has no clue how to run the country. I would not be surprised to see some serious economic problems as nervous investors wait to see what he'll do.

So a possible increase in terrorism means we're "all doomed"? It's so tiring to see the extreme talk (on both sides) when it comes to discussing politics.

In 50+ years, I can't think of one single election that has effected my life. But then I'm a straight white guy and don't have to fight or vote for equality. But since we're "all doomed" in the next 4 years, I guess I'll start building my bunker!

[damonberryman]

How can anyone vote for this guy.

Rather than lose, I expect him to drop out due to some 'conspiracy' by the 'elites' against him.

In this game Trump's strategy is a losing one.

Hmmm I wonder if we can agree to a friendly wager of some kind.

No way will Crooked Hillary win this race!

(hey Corn, is a vote for Hillary a vote for the 'elites'... thinkabootit!)

I would wager that Hillary, my secret love, will win. So......the stakes. If Trump is elected I will stay off this board for 3 months. if Hillary is elected you do the same. Is it a bet?

I'll take that bet. I think Trump will win. And if Hillary wins we may all be doomed anyways.

The offer was not for you. it was for Doc who first brought it up. I do not want to bet with you. it would feel like taking advantage.

[damonberryman]

UK Canuck

"Why did I bother?"

I ended up here as well.

True, you both ended up in the same place: Destroyed in a debate.

You are so right Doc. You win. Your intellect is on display for all to see. Congratulations Strange. How does it feel to be so right ALL the time? Must be wonderful. Again, you win. Leave me out of your posts and I will not invite you to the Princeton again ok?

BTW. I meant what I said about not being a threat to you and would pay for the beer. Perhaps you have trust issues. That is what happens when you are right all the time. Price to be paid for brilliance little man.

I've stripped you of your illusions of intellectualism

... I have no intention to also strip you of your tough-guy illusions.

WAKE UP.... you're a 60-year-old Prison Bitch who has admittedly fried his brains for 4 decades.

You've done enough damage to your reputation around here, just stop.

uh-huh

[Per]

At least Trump is attempting to do something about Muslim invasion rather than what's going on in Germany or Sweden. And you know what they say about not knowing history and being doomed to repeat it. It's not like there haven't been Muslin invasions throughout history. Sharia law isn't compatible with non Muslims is it? And don't forget that the non-radical Muslims are targets for the Muslim extremists too.

There's no Muslim invasion going on. Just a whole lot of people fleeing from religious extremism.

Besides, there was roughly a million Syrian refugees heading to Europe last year. There are more than 300 million people living in the European Union. It's a drop in the ocean.

And these are people trying to get away from the religious loonies.
I doubt they are going to push for extreme measures here.

I just look at Trump and see a demagogue trying to demonize a religious minority with roots in the Middle East.
Hmmmm... Now, why does this picture look familiar?

[Per]

... what's going on in Germany or Sweden.

You mean, we're all watching the final of the Olympic women's football tournament?
While Canada had to make do with bronze.

[Cornuck]

At least Trump is attempting to do something about Muslim invasion rather than what's going on in Germany or Sweden. And you know what they say about not knowing history and being doomed to repeat it. It's not like there haven't been Muslin invasions throughout history. Sharia law isn't compatible with non Muslims is it? And don't forget that the non-radical Muslims are targets for the Muslim extremists too.

There's no Muslim invasion going on. Just a whole lot of people fleeing from religious extremism.

Besides, there was roughly a million Syrian refugees heading to Europe last year. There are more than 300 million people living in the European Union. It's a drop in the ocean.

And these are people trying to get away from the religious loonies.
I doubt they are going to push for extreme measures here.

I just look at Trump and see a demagogue trying to demonize a religious minority with roots in the Middle East.
Hmmmm... Now, why does this picture look familiar?

But if Clinton gets in we'll have Sharia Law across North America and we're All DOOMED!

[Per]

I'll take that bet. I think Trump will win. And if Hillary wins we may all be doomed anyways.

Ok... how are we all "Doomed" if Clinton wins? Specifics please.

Some will argue, "Four more years of status-quo"

Yes keeping things going the way they are headed is reason enough to be worried.

The way they are headed?

You mean lower unemployment, lower crime rates, increased industry production, higher GDP, lower inflation?
Yeah, that's a bitch!

https://shift.newco.co/republicans-need ... .n7zyhouy4

Even a Murdoch paper like the Wall Street Journal has to admit the US has been doing great under Obama:
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/ ... its-peers/

[griz]

The offer was not for you. it was for Doc who first brought it up. I do not want to bet with you. it would feel like taking advantage.

We'll see in November either way.

But if Clinton gets in we'll have Sharia Law across North America and we're All DOOMED!

Doom and Gloom aside, how exactly can anyone vote for Hillary? What is your reasoning? How can you overlook all her illegal activities?

As for Trump not knowing how to run a country ... doesn't he have more resources available to him than nearly anyone on earth? Can't he put teams of experts together?

There's no Muslim invasion going on. Just a whole lot of people fleeing from religious extremism.

If that's so then why all the violence?

If trump is elected, you don't think that will "spread terrorism" either? You think that having a guy in charge who wants to register muslims, test them or whatever fucked up "policy" he's spewing this week will endear the US to Muslims around the world? Good luck with that

What about the Arab countries not accepting refugees at all?

As for stealing the nomination from Sanders, that was a team effort. Again, I'm no fan of Clinton, but the Democrats had a really good idea who they were going to vote for. The media didn't help either. Clinton was as much the beneficiary of a per-determined outcome than the evil master planner.

So you vote for the evil master planner?

[Cornuck]

griz... just too much for one post...

As of February 2016, the United Nations (UN) has identified 13.5 million Syrians requiring humanitarian assistance, of which 6.6 million are internally displaced within Syria, and over 4.8 million are refugees outside of Syria. Turkey is the largest host country with over 2.7 million Syrian refugees.

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up to 98 percent of Turkey's population are Muslims

= You need better info if you're going to be discussing politics...

As for trump's "resources"? The best guy he can get to run his campaign is Steve Bannon? I rest my case.

Clinton's "Murderous", "illegal" activities... ok... get back to me when she's convicted of murder and all the other stuff... You think trump has a clean slate? Why would he be the target of 169 federal lawsuits?

But yeah... if Clinton gets in "WE'RE ALL DOOMED"™.

Seriously griz... are you just trolling? At least I could understand that... being summer and needing some entertainment.

[griz]

griz... just too much for one post...

As of February 2016, the United Nations (UN) has identified 13.5 million Syrians requiring humanitarian assistance, of which 6.6 million are internally displaced within Syria, and over 4.8 million are refugees outside of Syria. Turkey is the largest host country with over 2.7 million Syrian refugees.

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up to 98 percent of Turkey's population are Muslims

= You need better info if you're going to be discussing politics...

As for trump's "resources"? The best guy he can get to run his campaign is Steve Bannon? I rest my case.

Clinton's "Murderous", "illegal" activities... ok... get back to me when she's convicted of murder and all the other stuff... You think trump has a clean slate? Why would he be the target of 169 federal lawsuits?

But yeah... if Clinton gets in "WE'RE ALL DOOMED"™.

Seriously griz... are you just trolling? At least I could understand that... being summer and needing some entertainment.

Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates are not taking refugees. Am I wrong?

When you've been in business as much as Trump has, lawsuits happen right or wrong. That pales in comparison to what Hillary is getting away with. Can't you see the difference?

[Cornuck]

Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates are not taking refugees. Am I wrong?

"What about the Arab countries not accepting refugees at all?"

When you've been in business as much as Trump has, lawsuits happen right or wrong. That pales in comparison to what Hillary is getting away with. Can't you see the difference?

Yes... trump is such an awesome businessman. Clinton has her own issues, but to blow off trump's incredibly horrible record tells me that you are either trolling or totally brainwashed by the crap you're reading.

Either way... it's Friday, and I'm bored of this now. Enjoy your weekend, griz... because come November... we're all... (you know)

[Cornuck]

Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates are not taking refugees. Am I wrong?

The widely held opinion that Saudi Arabia, the biggest of the Gulf nations, hasn't taken in a single refugee may well be incorrect. Nabil Othman, acting regional representative to the Gulf region at the United Nations' refugee agency, UNHCR, told Bloomberg there were 500,000 Syrians in that country. Saudi Arabia, like all of the Gulf states, is not a signatory to the UN refugee convention, so these displaced people are not officially designated as refugees.

In total, the six Gulf States (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and Oman) say they have given over €800 million to help those suffering from the Syrian crisis.

These claims are also the targets of harsh criticisms from NGO leaders, despite the International Red Cross/ Red Crescent recognising this year the UAE as the world’s top humanitarian donor, in large part owing to its support for displaced Syrians in Jordan.

Since the Syrian crisis began in 2011, the UAE has extended residency permits to more than 100,000 Syrian nationals to enter the country. The total number of Syrian nationals living in the UAE is now more than 242,000.

Yep, you're wrong... sorry.

[ukcanuck]

Sorry Doc you haven't done anything except reference links to people who you believe in and call names to someone who thinks differently. I expect a more intelligent discussion from you with your point of view.

Yeah, you should probably put aside any bias you might have and re-read this thread Reef.

If you are interested in "intelligent discussion"... focus on the exchanges between Per and yours truly?

I do realize I've been "arguing with idiots" a lot in this thread...

He's right Doc
And why should he focus on your lol "discussion" with Per
You do the same thing to him as you do to everyone.
Derision, name calling and complete evasion of anything that doesn't fit your version of things.


And you still have not acknowledged that nearly every single source provided so far has been from right wing paleo conservatives.

There is in fact a political argument to this issue that you refuse to say anything about which should prove to anyone watching that you are not being honest

This is the problem with the sources and I have catalogued it AND proved it with molyneux. Your willful blindness is your problem. You can go on believing what you will but I see right through you.


You are a right wing Christian conservative. You're really really good at name calling and that there is just about it.

You pretty much are your Archie Bunker shtick

Such a shame ...