Canucks Young Guns

[Cherry Picker]

I’ll take my chances in UFA rather than pissing away valuable assets for guys like Sutter when you already had Richardson and Bonino. They were better, cheaper players than Sutter and you keep the assets. The draft picks pissed away in 2015, 2015 and 2016 could be playing by now. Sutter, Vey and Gudbranson etc added fuck all. Schenn looks no worse than Gudbranson at 20 % of the cost. Eriksson, Gagner, Schaller were all awful signings. Beagle looks like another head scratcher.

A lovely story indeed

I keep getting goaded into these “debates” with the Benning fan club. Round and round we go. You won’t see my point and I sure as hell won’t see yours

I agree with you. Sutter cost assets; Beagle didn't. Both do a similar job. The science of picking the right UFA is the hard part, but signing UFAs in general to fill holes is a no-brainer.


I don't care either way if MacEwen gets time on the Canucks this season or stays and tries to get Utica into the dance. I just think they should have him penciled in the line-up at the start of the season next year. They need some toughness.

[Strangelove]

Who cares about pooalot, he's not an enforcer.

Pittsburgh is delighted with $4M Gudbranson and they know a thing or two about playoffs.

Admit it, you would have loved the Guds at $2M.

I have been dying to post something similar about the Guds. I'm just too busy for the whining more likely than not to ensue. As bad as the Guds was on paper I'd trade 2x Tanner Pearson for him back. An a good team he is a real tangible asset.

Blaming EG for our shitty team defense is like blaming the janitor for sinking the titanic. With Travis Green giving a season pass to Pouliot I find it comical that everyone piled on EG as the reason for our troubles.

I have no problem if Gudbranson is making 1.5 -2 million which is what he should be paid.

Poster Blob is a prime example of those who crave assholes but are unwilling to pay the asshole extra.

The extra $2M per year until 2021 was not a problem.

2021 is when we need to start becoming extra careful about the cap.

Two more years with this heavyweight looking out for the kids would have been nice.

But noooooooo the MS crew had to run him out of town!

[Strangelove]

I’ll take my chances in UFA rather than pissing away valuable assets for guys like Sutter when you already had Richardson and Bonino. They were better, cheaper players than Sutter and you keep the assets.

You're so full of shit your posts are brown!

Those two are worse (and older than) Sutter.

And how is not trading Bonino for Sutter "keeping assets"?

Schenn looks no worse than Gudbranson

BROWN!!

[Blob Mckenzie]

Bonino and Richardson are better and cheaper than Butter. Big deal they are a cunt hair older. They also are stronger and a lot more durable. Bonino could have been flipped at the 2017 deadline for a good package. They could have also hung onto the 2nd they inexplicably puked into the Butter deal.

Jim Rutherford knows a little something about cups and playoffs. He targeted Bonino. He couldn’t ditch the overpaid Butter fast enough and found a chump to take him off his hands

[Strangelove]

Bonino and Richardson are better... than Butter.

So brown.

Big deal they are a cunt hair older.

Richardson is more than 4 years older.

They also are stronger and a lot more durable.

None of the three are very strong and Richardson has missed way more games than Sutter to injury over his career.

Bonino could have been flipped at the 2017 deadline for a good package.

Whatever it would have been, it's less than what Sutter will bring when the time comes.

They could have also hung onto the 2nd they inexplicably puked into the Butter deal.

Brown and STINKY!

For the 88th time, they gave up a mere 9-spot-pick upgrade in the late 2nd/early 3rd rounds.

Jim Rutherford knows a little something about cups and playoffs. He targeted Bonino.

And he targeted Gudbranson.

He targeted Bonino because they were in cap hell and he knew Bonino would be cheap for 2 seasons.

When Bonino was looking for $4M+ on his next contract, Rutherford said cheerio (he walked as a UFA after 2 seasons).

[Blob Mckenzie]

Rutherford couldn’t ditch birdbones fast enough


He saw the lack of physical engagement and the arms and legs of a frog.


Rutherford loved Bonino and targeted him to be a key piece of two Stanley Cups.

[DonCherry4PM]

You have listed several players who have developed from Utica in the last few years but these for the most part are not skilled high-end players (or at least have not yet proven themselves to consistently be such at an NHL level).

Can you give examples of skilled, high-end players from any organization that developed in the AHL?

Marchand is the only one I could find amongst top scorers in the league, skill guys simply don't spend time on the farm. They either develop in college, overseas, or jump right to the NHL.

In answer to your question, Hall, Kucherov, Giroux, Subban (PK just so we are clear), Carlson etc. From theAHL.com “Last season, 856 AHL alumni played in the National Hockey League – 86.9 percent of all NHL players”

I would agree with you that the most elite players don’t usually start in the AHL (Karlsson started there - 12 games with Binghampton). But many skilled and high-end players do spend some time developing there. Even on the Canucks, Gaudette could turn into that - to reiterate my point- if JB is drafting as well as the pundits say, there should be many more high-end skill players that come from Utica than we have seen so far. If that doesn’t happen, it is either a developmental or a drafting/trading/scouting problem.

[Cousin Strawberry]

He targeted one of the biggest playoff mailer inners ever...for the playoffs?

Sorry buds youre on your own with the bonino love. He was a disaster for us that series.

[Strangelove]

Rutherford couldn’t ditch birdbones fast enough


He saw the lack of physical engagement and the arms and legs of a frog.

Agreed, Rutherford ditched Birdbones Bonino the moment BB demanded more than $1.9M.

He happily signed Sutter to a $3.3M-per 2-year contract however.

Thanks for bringing up Rutherford blobby!

Rutherford also figures the Guds is worth $4M-per...

[Strangelove]

He targeted one of the biggest playoff mailer inners ever...for the playoffs?

Sorry buds youre on your own with the bonino love. He was a disaster for us that series.

Blob uses extreme hyperbole at every turn to try to make Jimbro look bad.

Blob hated Bonino when he was here.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Blob hated Bonino when he was here.

Everyone did. He fuckin sucked ass. He refused to dig pucks out of the corners or engage anywhere on the ice. It pissed me off to see him all in for those cups actually.

Piece of shit isnt worth defending

[Blob Mckenzie]

Bonino won two cups. Sutter gets into 20 or 30 games a year for a bottom feeder. Rutherford took Elmer to the cleaners. Rutherford is a genius

If Sutter’s last name was Anderson or Finklestein he would be paid accordingly and would be battling to stay in the league playimg for minimum wage

[Blob Mckenzie]

He targeted one of the biggest playoff mailer inners ever...for the playoffs?

Sorry buds youre on your own with the bonino love. He was a disaster for us that series.

I don’t love Bonino. But he’s better than Birdbones.

Birdbones was a terrible target.

[Strangelove]

Bonino won two cups. Sutter gets into 20 or 30 games a year for a bottom feeder. Rutherford took Elmer to the cleaners. Rutherford is a genius

See what I mean about Blob's extreme hyperbole?

[Strangelove]

He targeted one of the biggest playoff mailer inners ever...for the playoffs?

Sorry buds youre on your own with the bonino love. He was a disaster for us that series.

I don’t love Bonino. But he’s better than Birdbones.

Birdbones was a terrible target.

OMG Sutter isn't very tough but he would mop the floor with Birdbones Bonino!

As usual, Blobby fails to appreciate great defensive players, recall him pointing to Beagle's lack of goals the other day.

Statwatcher Blob they call him...