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Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:28 pm
by UWSaint
Lancer wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:16 pm
BoS wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:29 am Interesting take on Pettersson, UDub.

I haven’t seen any obvious ailments when watching him behind the play, but he’s always had ridiculous hand/eye with an innate ability to knock down passes, anticipate plays and interrupt the play. He hasn’t been poor defensively, but he has not created turnovers anywhere close to the rate he has much of his career. His ability to break up plays and reverse the flow is what got locals talking Selke candidate, but this aspect has been largely absent for some time.

I also believe his weight is a massive issue. And the deeper the team goes in the post-season, the more evident it will become. I’d be curious to know what his weight is today compared to last October.
Either it’s hurt or he doesn’t trust it - either to do what he wants with it or that he will re-injure or exacerbate it.

We’ll see. It’s also consistent with lack of confidence/the yips getting to him. He did well in the bubble, but we’re starting to find that the Bubble playoffs were only so indicative. Maybe the pressure is getting to him. It was different when he was a wunderkind rookie in the SHL tearing up the playoffs. This is THE big stage and he’s a core part vice a skilled kid. Maybe it’s getting to him.
I don’t think it’s the playoffs and the big stage. He’s been playing like this for a while before the playoffs. And I don’t think it’s the physicality, at least not predominately. He has been hitting (took two oilers out at once on an entry, allowing the defense to collect with zero pressure); it’s possible he’s avoiding areas where he’ll get hit, but he seems absent (or limited) in perimeter play as well.

The psychological theory is a possibility, the physical breakdown theory is plausible, but wrist/hand injury seems like the best explanation for a competitive young man who has previously excelled on big stages.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 3:13 pm
by Raile
UWSaint wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:28 pm
Lancer wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:16 pm
BoS wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:29 am Interesting take on Pettersson, UDub.

I haven’t seen any obvious ailments when watching him behind the play, but he’s always had ridiculous hand/eye with an innate ability to knock down passes, anticipate plays and interrupt the play. He hasn’t been poor defensively, but he has not created turnovers anywhere close to the rate he has much of his career. His ability to break up plays and reverse the flow is what got locals talking Selke candidate, but this aspect has been largely absent for some time.

I also believe his weight is a massive issue. And the deeper the team goes in the post-season, the more evident it will become. I’d be curious to know what his weight is today compared to last October.
Either it’s hurt or he doesn’t trust it - either to do what he wants with it or that he will re-injure or exacerbate it.

We’ll see. It’s also consistent with lack of confidence/the yips getting to him. He did well in the bubble, but we’re starting to find that the Bubble playoffs were only so indicative. Maybe the pressure is getting to him. It was different when he was a wunderkind rookie in the SHL tearing up the playoffs. This is THE big stage and he’s a core part vice a skilled kid. Maybe it’s getting to him.
I don’t think it’s the playoffs and the big stage. He’s been playing like this for a while before the playoffs. And I don’t think it’s the physicality, at least not predominately. He has been hitting (took two oilers out at once on an entry, allowing the defense to collect with zero pressure); it’s possible he’s avoiding areas where he’ll get hit, but he seems absent (or limited) in perimeter play as well.

The psychological theory is a possibility, the physical breakdown theory is plausible, but wrist/hand injury seems like the best explanation for a competitive young man who has previously excelled on big stages.
maybe both?

We've all seen plenty of players get injured, then the body not be able to do what the mind is thinking, leading to frustration, self doubt, etc.
Then weeks/months later he signs a mega contract.. there's a lot of pressure that comes with that no matter who you are. If you are in the middle of playing at your peak and you're a cocky sob then that pressure may be batted aside, but if you sign that contract while you are already injured and with self doubt, maybe the whole thing snowballs.
He wouldn't be the first player.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 4:19 pm
by CrzyCanuck
BoS wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:29 am
I haven’t seen any obvious ailments when watching him behind the play, but he’s always had ridiculous hand/eye with an innate ability to knock down passes, anticipate plays and interrupt the play. He hasn’t been poor defensively, but he has not created turnovers anywhere close to the rate he has much of his career. His ability to break up plays and reverse the flow is what got locals talking Selke candidate, but this aspect has been largely absent for some time.
.

This has totally disappeared since the ASG.
That anticipation at blue line or neutral zone to either steals players puck or intercept passes and turn them into an odd man rush.

Also the quick and nifty dribbles in traffic

And of course, the i-don’t-give-a-fuck-i-will-score shots

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 11:12 pm
by Per
Cornuck wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 4:56 pm https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/1790838557441184050

"I want to be the difference maker."
Lalji: I know that you and everyone’s maintained that there’s not an injury, so from your perspective, why has it been so difficult these last three months to generate the way you maybe did previously?
Pettersson: [pause] Yeah, good question.
Lalji: [pause] Any thoughts, any answers?
Pettersson: [longer pause] … No.
Just sounds like a guy going through the motions - but then he's never really seemed to enjoy the media.
Or a guy with an injury that he and the coaching staff don’t want the other team to find out about. :|
He can’t mention the injury, doesn’t want to make shit up. Thus ”yeah, good question” and ”… No.”

Also, eyes barely open, blank face… looks like someone who has not slept for 48 hours or is heavily medicated.
Pain killers?

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 4:03 am
by Cousin Strawberry
Per wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:12 pm .
Also, eyes barely open, blank face… looks like someone who has not slept for 48 hours or is heavily medicated.
Pain killers?
Petey found the magic giggle lettuce and really is digging the chilling effects of a potent Indica

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 6:07 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Ok so I watched the game last night….. great result we deserve the win.


Someone on a board said Craig Mctavish said to run people over. That can’t be correct.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 6:36 am
by Lancer
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 4:03 am
Per wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:12 pm .
Also, eyes barely open, blank face… looks like someone who has not slept for 48 hours or is heavily medicated.
Pain killers?
Petey found the magic giggle lettuce and really is digging the chilling effects of a potent Indica
They should make a Petey-inspired strain.

What to call it?

Alien Kush? Too obvious.

Kraut Kryptonite?

Petey Power Punch?

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 6:38 am
by Chef Boi RD
I can’t say enough of how impressed I am with Garlands playoff level. The Smurf has some serious cajones along the boards like a dog on a bone.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 6:48 am
by Chef Boi RD
A whole lotta Benning in last nights line-up:

1. Pettersson
2. Hughes
3. Miller
4. Boeser
5. Silovs
6. Garland
7. Myers
8. Hoglander
9. Podkolzin
10. Di Giuseppe

With Demko and Karlsson on the sidelines

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 7:02 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Chef Boi RD wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 6:48 am A whole lotta Benning’s dink in my mouth again
Tidied it up for you Buds

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 7:05 am
by Chef Boi RD
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 7:02 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 6:48 am A whole lotta Benning’s dink in my mouth again
Tidied it up for you Buds
:lol:

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 4:19 pm
by Tciso
We have out-hit the shit out of the Coilers this series. I am surprised the media doesn't mention it much. It has to be wearing david n draisaitl down
Keep it up boys

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 4:50 pm
by Cornuck
Tciso wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 4:19 pm We have out-hit the shit out of the Coilers this series. I am surprised the media doesn't mention it much. It has to be wearing david n draisaitl down
Keep it up boys
One thing that I didn't expect the Canucks to do was "wear down an opponent" - after such a long break from (real) playoffs, and before that, the Sedin era - it seemed very unlikely. But here we are - making the oilers slow down a bit, and it's showing. Again, Kudos to management for building a team for the playoffs.

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 6:53 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Playing McBaby and Crysaitl 30 minutes a game comes with a cost down the road. To me they're wearing down a touch from the physical beatings and from being overplayed

Re: Canucks News N Notes 23-24 Playoff Edition

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 9:29 am
by Tciso
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 6:53 pm Playing McBaby and Crysaitl 30 minutes a game comes with a cost down the road. To me they're wearing down a touch from the physical beatings and from being overplayed
When half your cap is on 5 guys, you gotta play them half the game.