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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:01 pm
by Island Nucklehead
If TO wants McDavid it will likely cost Phaneuf and their next 7 first round picks. Won't happen. I don't think there is a package you can offer the Oilers for that one.
Tanev, Horvat, Virtanen, Canucks next 4 1st round picks? Not enough. The kid IS a franchise.
What is Crosby worth? We should get used to being bent over by the Oilers, because it's going to happen a lot over the next 10-15 years.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:09 pm
by BurningBeard
RoyalDude wrote:It's hard to imagine a trade that will never ever happen. McDavid is going to Edmonton, enough said
I'm not asking what trade will take place, I'm asking what does Toronto offer. They will make an offer for that pick.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:21 pm
by BurningBeard
Strangelove wrote:Hockey Widow wrote:
Look, MacJesus was upset but he will get over it. He will be a gawd in Edmonton. No way Edmonton trades the pick, it won't happen for all the tea in China. The Oilers can trade other saviours and get some decent return.

Mark 15:12-14
"What shall I do, then, with the one you call McJesus?" Pilate asked them. "Crucify him!" they shouted. "Why? What crime has he committed?" asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, "Crucify him!"
So it shall be written. So it shall be done.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:34 pm
by Meds
Ok, what is with the automatic assumption that we are gonna get bent over by the Oilers alot in the future?
We shutout Crosby, Malkin, and the Penguins twice this season.....just saying. Our record against the Pens isn't terrible at all.
Edmonton has no goaltending, no defense, and terrible management.
Sure our team will decline over the next few seasons, but the Oilers are already declined.
What elite goaltender are they going to get? Who has one to give up?
Who is going to part with that franchise defenseman?
Most of the talent that Edmonton NEEDS hold NTC's and won't go to Edmonton for anything.
I'm not sure who said it today on the radio, but they were right when they suggested that the Oilers will not turn the ship around until Katz cleans house from Lowe on down.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:18 am
by Topper
Where is Lowe's other fist?
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:44 am
by Boston Canucker
If Katz has a brain in his head on hockey matters, which seems unlikely, he'd can the whole nepotistic Oilers hierarchy, go out and get someone like Chiarelli/Shero or any of the top Asst, GMS in the league to manage this now treasure trove of assets. If I was an Oilers' fan - and thank god I'm not - I'd be real freaking nervous now. It's great for them getting McDavid, but now with 4 picks in 6 years it's about winning Cups (a la Chicago that tanked for many years) not just making the playoffs - you don't tank for almost 10 yrs just to get to the 2nd round. The Oilers have some great ingredients but they've got a couple of short order cooks working the line...they need a freaking chef now! Here's hoping they don't get one, and all that talent never quite turns into a team and before you know it Hall, RGN, etc leave as UFAs that that the Oilers can't afford.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:50 am
by herb
Boston Canucker wrote:The Oilers have some great ingredients but they've got a couple of short order cooks working the line...they need a freaking chef now! Here's hoping they don't get one, and all that talent never quite turns into a team and before you know it Hall, RGN, etc leave as UFAs that that the Oilers can't afford.
Amen!
My only hope is this buys the nepotism crowd more time behind the wheel.
The Oilers still don't have a team. They have a bunch of decent young forwards, but they don't have a team.
MacTavish and Lowe have been too afraid of failing to make a trade. I hope that continues.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:23 am
by Topper
Topper wrote:The drug dealer would be wise to cut ties with the goal happy team of bye-gone years and move in on some of the top shelf management and coaching talent available this off season.
Boston Canucker wrote:If Katz has a brain in his head on hockey matters, which seems unlikely, he'd can the whole nepotistic Oilers hierarchy, go out and get someone like Chiarelli/Shero or any of the top Asst, GMS in the league to manage this now treasure trove of assets. If I was an Oilers' fan - and thank god I'm not - I'd be real freaking nervous now. It's great for them getting McDavid, but now with 4 picks in 6 years it's about winning Cups (a la Chicago that tanked for many years) not just making the playoffs - you don't tank for almost 10 yrs just to get to the 2nd round. The Oilers have some great ingredients but they've got a couple of short order cooks working the line...they need a freaking chef now! Here's hoping they don't get one, and all that talent never quite turns into a team and before you know it Hall, RGN, etc leave as UFAs that that the Oilers can't afford.
Echo
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:42 pm
by Hockey Widow
McClellan officially leaving, by mutual consent, his coaching job. No word yet if he is staying with the organization. He could work well in Edmonton.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:04 pm
by Topper
....except he was never involved with the Gretzky-Messier era Oilers.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:47 pm
by BurningBeard
Hockey Widow wrote:McClellan officially leaving, by mutual consent, his coaching job. No word yet if he is staying with the organization. He could work well in Edmonton.
The thought of people like Chiarelli and McLellan being GM and coach of the Oilers just made me pee myself. Now I know how RD feels.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:18 am
by Rumsfeld
Generational players tend to win Cups.
Even Edmonton can't screw this up completely. Their prospect pool is fucking stacked.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:51 pm
by Diehard1
Rumsfeld wrote:Generational players tend to win Cups.
Even Edmonton can't screw this up completely. Their prospect pool is fucking stacked.
Their prospect pool is average - Nurse And Draisaitl are the only ones worth anything and they were 7th and 3rd overall. Lots of shitty years and most of their top young players have been playing in the bigs the majority of that time. Not including their upcoming picks I would take our prospects over theirs any day or the week.
Add McDavid, their other first and a high second and it gets a lot better - but they've been drafting terribly and developing even worse for years. They'll throw McDavid right into the deep end next year, hopefully he's ready physically because he's playing whether he is or not.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:07 pm
by Hockey Widow
Down to 4 teams for O'Connor
OTT, VAN, EDM, NYR.
If Benning snags this kid then you know he will be the likely starter in Utica and most definitely Lack or Markstrom, or both, will be gone in the off season. Thatcher still has 1-2 more years in college so this gives a nice transition for goaltending.
NYR would see him wait a long time to replace Lundquist. Edmonton he could probably be promised back up role but is he ready? No. Ottawa would be intriguing for him. Vancouver I think provides him with the best developmental opportunity and Benning knows the kid and thinks he has what it takes to be a future number one.
Vancouver also provides him the opportunity to be back up in 2-3 years and transition into the number one if he has it.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:47 pm
by Island Nucklehead
Hockey Widow wrote:
NYR would see him wait a long time to replace Lundquist. Edmonton he could probably be promised back up role but is he ready? No. Ottawa would be intriguing for him. Vancouver I think provides him with the best developmental opportunity and Benning knows the kid and thinks he has what it takes to be a future number one.
Vancouver also provides him the opportunity to be back up in 2-3 years and transition into the number one if he has it.
I can see Edmonton offering him an NHL spot really quick, and the chance to play with a generational player like McDavid is likely to be a big draw. Wouldn't be shocked to see him go to the Oilers. If he's smart he'll go to Vancouver or New York.