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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:30 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:10 pm Detroit is a good example but we also need to be mindful that the NHL has gotten younger since then. Add a few franchise players, a few superstars, a few above average players and suddenly every 19 year old wants to be in the NHL.

As for Gaudette, he finished his fourth year at college before he signed, got rewarded by being able to burn a year on his ELC but then had to work his way back on the team. And make no mistake, it was injuries on the big club that opened, or re-opened, the door for him in Vancouver. That short stint in Utica did wonders for his confidence and now he’s a regular. Lockwood should learn from that.
Gaudette played three years in college
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From Carol Schram:

Josh Teves is a 24-year-old Calgary native, who's a senior this year. His hockey season also ended last weekend after Princeton was swept by Brown in the first round of the ECAC playoff. This is the guy Canucks are interested in.

Josh Teves – Left Defence
6’0″ – 180 lbs – Feb 18, 1995 (24)
Calgary, AB

He was at our development camp last year

https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-b ... 1.23352116
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Will Lockwood’s coach: From TSN

Mel Pearson on Will Lockwood: Just his overall game and his strength. He's wiry strong, but he could get stronger. He's gotta learn to distribute the puck more. He likes the puck on his stick and sometimes won't give it up, but he's a competitor. He's a good one. I love the kid.

Sounds like the coach is leaning on one more year at Michigan. Perhaps it is the better path for him.
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When Quinn arrives, he will meet the local mediatards, "have mercy". I.m sure the Canucks will protect him from the all out scrum
to begin with and have a nice- sit at the table surrounded by Benning and Green thing.
But over the next few days, they will get to him. Hopefully he will have studied Pettersson's, "Are you f**king serious look", but the hounds
will be relentless.
Not that our reporters are the smartest tacks on the board, but one of them will no doubt bring up Will Lockwood and his situation.
I hope to hear a candid response but I'm not going to hold my breath for one. Ya never know though.
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Hockey Widow wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:42 pm From Carol Schram:

Josh Teves is a 24-year-old Calgary native, who's a senior this year. His hockey season also ended last weekend after Princeton was swept by Brown in the first round of the ECAC playoff. This is the guy Canucks are interested in.

Josh Teves – Left Defence
6’0″ – 180 lbs – Feb 18, 1995 (24)
Calgary, AB

He was at our development camp last year

https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-b ... 1.23352116
Done deal Teves will sign with Vancouver according to the NHL godfather Bob Mckenzie:
College UFAs: Kuffner to DET and Teves to VAN. Both from Princeton.
Teves has put up three goals and 20 points in 30 games this season.

Teves is a slick skater, with good speed in both directions, and excellent pivots and crossovers. This allows him to cover a lot of ice, and to play an effective two-way game.

He can skate the puck out of danger in his end, as well as lead the rush on the attack.

Teves also has very good playmaking skills, which he can use in transition, or in playing the point on the power play.

He is strong positionally and has a quick stick, but must improve his size and strength to succeed in the professional game.
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Josh Teves stats:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=171360

A depth signing. Don't know if he can make the big team, but then again, we don't really know how much Benning "IS" going to
change-up the back end.
Beginning to think it may be bolder than I, for one, thought.
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micky107 wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:31 pm Josh Teves stats:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=171360

A depth signing. Don't know if he can make the big team, but then again, we don't really know how much Benning "IS" going to
change-up the back end.
Beginning to think it may be bolder than I, for one, thought.
Ya he sure sounds ready to move on from Edler, Tanev and Ericksson. Sutter may very well have been traded not for his injury.

Tanev, Ericksson and Sutter will bring back assets, albeit not much. Edler we will lose to FA. But that cleans house and frees up 4 roster spots. Not considering Schaller and Pouliot may also be gone.
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Sounds like a one year deal and he’s headed to Utica. Not confirmed.
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Close.it is a one year deal but he will join the Canucks immediately p. They will sign a new deal this summer. Because he is 24 his ELC is only one year so he burns that as soon as he plays one game.
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So we’ve added two LHD. Hutton is still out, can’t yet get his skate on.

Hughes, if I’m guessing, doesn’t dress Wednesday. Teves could dress Wednesday. Benning wants both of them to get as close to 10 games as they can. So I guess Pouliot’s days are numbered and Sautner and Brisbois back to Utica?
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micky107 wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:31 pm Josh Teves stats:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=171360

A depth signing. Don't know if he can make the big team, but then again, we don't really know how much Benning "IS" going to
change-up the back end.
Beginning to think it may be bolder than I, for one, thought.
It’s a free prospect, albeit an older one. Haven’t heard of too many 24 year old college graduates that carve out a lengthy career starting at that age but I’m sure there’s te odd one.
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Cherry Picker wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:15 pm The Palmu and Dahlen lack of development could be weighing on Lockwood's mind. Utica might be getting a reputation for not being the best spot for rookies. Can't really blame him for choosing college if that is his impression.
I am not buying into the "Utica can't develop players" Schtickt that is being pushed by the media. Its garbage. Start of last season, Utica had 5-6 rookies in the lineup down there as we force fed prospects into the system.

But what is the definition of success?? I would say that if your farm team fed 2-3 guys onto your roster (or could feed 2-3 guys into the roster) every year that would be an AMAZING development program. Some of those assets would obviously get turned into other assets, but I think our media has an overblown expectation of youth development. The focus seems to be on 1 or 2 guys that may or may not <ever> pan into NHL regulars ( in any position)

In the last couple years, Utica has developed:
-Virtanen
Found his game down there. #Shotgun was on his way to playing himself out of the NHL and is a prime example of needing to mature and develop the skills, ethic and character to have any kind of success in the NHL. (Not arguing his potential, or that we wanted him to be Todd 2.0, just that he made it to the NHL as a regular who contributes in the lineup in some way, and learned the basics of how to do it in Utica)
- McEwan
Got his first taste of the NHL this year, and looks to be a guy who could play an energy guy role here. He was never really on anyones "watch" list. he developed in Utica.
-Goldobin
got his 30 games down there. Learned the hypothetical direction where his own goalie played. Took Travis Green (and time) to learn what his goalies name was and if he spoke English or not.
-Joulevi
was having a monster year down there until injury hit. No doubts he would have had a great long look in the show this year if he wasn't injury. Still improved his game in Utica.
-Demko
Proved that the AHL is a good stepping stone to the NHL - even for a goalie.
-Gaudette
Up and down, played his way onto the team this year because of the Sutter injury... and made Sutter expendable July 1st. Perfect example of development and getting your shot to make the NHL
- Sautner, Brisebois, Gaunce, Boucher, etc.. all serviceable injury fill ins with some of them (not Gaunce or Boucher - they peaked in high school)still having potential to improve somewhat.
- Gadovich, Lind, Chatfield, Karlsson -- all still in development.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. 6 guys for sure that were recently developed though our minor league system (I am sure I missed some), with a whack of guys that are serviceable call ups.

The media is feeding people Goat Shit, and they are paying for it by the pound. Fans and media need to manage their expectations, and stop finding every little thin g to grind an axe on or push a personal agenda.

Sometimes players just don't work out, for whatever reason. Could be a coach, could be a personality conflict, could be a bad teammate, usually is a lack of motivation, lack of skill, or lack or character.. but its ALWAYS WAAAAYYY easier to blame the system/team/coach than the player looking at himself in the mirror.
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Hockey Widow wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:47 pm So we’ve added two LHD. Hutton is still out, can’t yet get his skate on.

Hughes, if I’m guessing, doesn’t dress Wednesday. Teves could dress Wednesday. Benning wants both of them to get as close to 10 games as they can. So I guess Pouliot’s days are numbered and Sautner and Brisbois back to Utica?
I would say that Pouliot's number is about 13, and decreasing every game... :D :D

Sautner and Brisebois are not there yet. Good enough as short term injury placeholders, but nowhere near making the top 8 on a decent team.
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One thing that is rarely, if ever, brought up by our media regarding not just our, but any minor league franchise.
For certain, their main purpose is to work and develop for the parent team, (organization). But at the same time there is a responsibility to
the host city/town,in which they play, not to mention their paying fans, as well.
It's a balancing act to some degree.
I've only passed through Utica once many years ago and it seemed quaint is the word that comes to mind. Quite laid back with plenty of
history. Certainly not what you might consider a party-town, far from it.
In that regard, I don't hate the location and surrounding area. Seems like a spot where it should be easy to focus on hockey..
But I guess that in itself isn't enough.
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