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Zary’s biggest knock on him is his skating, considered to be below average. He is not a flashy player, isn’t great in any one area, the best case scenario for him regarding his ceiling is - a Bo Horvat type player but that is “best case” scenario. Bo could handle IC duty if you put him with very good wingers but Bo is a perfect 2C complimentary centre to a very good 1C like in Pettersson.

Strength down the middle is a beau thing

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:11 am Zary’s biggest knock on him is his skating, considered to be below average. He is not a flashy player, isn’t great in any one area, the best case scenario for him regarding his ceiling is - a Bo Horvat type player but that is “best case” scenario. Bo could handle IC duty if you put him with very good wingers but Bo is a perfect 2C complimentary centre to a very good 1C like in Pettersson.

Don't know where you heard that Zary is a below average skater, but this is from a top shelf scouting report on Zary:

Skating

Zary is a good skater, if somewhat unconventional. His stride can be a bit short and choppy at times, but this doesn’t seem to take away from his speed. He is still above average in terms of his top-end speed and he reaches that quickly with good acceleration. Zary also has very good agility and edgework. This helps him to get around defenders, both with and without the puck. Strong backwards skating also helps him to play a 200-foot game. Zary has a strong stride, that helps him to fight through checks and get to the dirty areas of the ice. It also helps him to work along the boards. If he can improve his lower body strength, this will improve even more going forward.

BCExpat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:20 am
Skating

Zary is a good skater, if somewhat unconventional. His stride can be a bit short and choppy at times, but this doesn’t seem to take away from his speed. He is still above average in terms of his top-end speed and he reaches that quickly with good acceleration. Zary also has very good agility and edgework. This helps him to get around defenders, both with and without the puck. Strong backwards skating also helps him to play a 200-foot game. Zary has a strong stride, that helps him to fight through checks and get to the dirty areas of the ice. It also helps him to work along the boards. If he can improve his lower body strength, this will improve even more going forward.

I haven't seen the guy and claim no special knowledge, however that is as close to a kiss-of-death that I've seen in an amateur scouting report.

ESQ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:04 am

BCExpat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:20 am
Skating

Zary is a good skater, if somewhat unconventional. His stride can be a bit short and choppy at times, but this doesn’t seem to take away from his speed. He is still above average in terms of his top-end speed and he reaches that quickly with good acceleration. Zary also has very good agility and edgework. This helps him to get around defenders, both with and without the puck. Strong backwards skating also helps him to play a 200-foot game. Zary has a strong stride, that helps him to fight through checks and get to the dirty areas of the ice. It also helps him to work along the boards. If he can improve his lower body strength, this will improve even more going forward.

I haven't seen the guy and claim no special knowledge, however that is as close to a kiss-of-death that I've seen in an amateur scouting report.

Isn’t that exactly how they described Cody Hodgson’s stride?

Cherry Picker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:12 am
Isn’t that exactly how they described Cody Hodgson’s stride?

That's certainly how resident bird-dog Chef described his stride (at least, that was how he described it after Hodgson was traded )

Cherry Picker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:12 am

ESQ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:04 am

BCExpat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:20 am
Skating

Zary is a good skater, if somewhat unconventional. His stride can be a bit short and choppy at times, but this doesn’t seem to take away from his speed. He is still above average in terms of his top-end speed and he reaches that quickly with good acceleration. Zary also has very good agility and edgework. This helps him to get around defenders, both with and without the puck. Strong backwards skating also helps him to play a 200-foot game. Zary has a strong stride, that helps him to fight through checks and get to the dirty areas of the ice. It also helps him to work along the boards. If he can improve his lower body strength, this will improve even more going forward.

I haven't seen the guy and claim no special knowledge, however that is as close to a kiss-of-death that I've seen in an amateur scouting report.

Isn’t that exactly how they described Cody Hodgson’s stride?

Thats the first thing that I thought of.

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:28 am

Cherry Picker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:12 am

ESQ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:04 am

BCExpat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:20 am
Skating

Zary is a good skater, if somewhat unconventional. His stride can be a bit short and choppy at times, but this doesn’t seem to take away from his speed. He is still above average in terms of his top-end speed and he reaches that quickly with good acceleration. Zary also has very good agility and edgework. This helps him to get around defenders, both with and without the puck. Strong backwards skating also helps him to play a 200-foot game. Zary has a strong stride, that helps him to fight through checks and get to the dirty areas of the ice. It also helps him to work along the boards. If he can improve his lower body strength, this will improve even more going forward.

I haven't seen the guy and claim no special knowledge, however that is as close to a kiss-of-death that I've seen in an amateur scouting report.

Isn’t that exactly how they described Cody Hodgson’s stride?

Thats the first thing that I thought of.

I think you missed this part:

"but this doesn’t seem to take away from his speed. He is still above average in terms of his top-end speed and he reaches that quickly with good acceleration"

That doesn't sound like a kiss of death to me.

Is his torso longer than his legs as well? Is there any sign of a micro-fro? Has his dad represented him yet?

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:43 am Is his torso longer than his legs as well? Is there any sign of a micro-fro? Has his dad represented him yet?

Cotton Hill... I always laughed at that

Any thoughts on the Ericsson / Hoffman rumours (from EK )

Hoffman waiting for Benning to clear cap so he can sign.
Benning offering Ericsson and next year's 1st for, well, nothing....

I believe Benning said no way he would offer a high draft pick to sell players, and the source is suspect, but would you do this?

lostinarink wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:38 pm Any thoughts on the Ericsson / Hoffman rumours (from EK )

Hoffman waiting for Benning to clear cap so he can sign.
Benning offering Ericsson and next year's 1st for, well, nothing....

I believe Benning said no way he would offer a high draft pick to sell players, and the source is suspect, but would you do this?

That would be a big nope from me on buying out Loui Eriksson this year, and a negatory good buddy on Hoffman, not interested there. I would take Benning at his word on this. As you say.

if Benning got rid of six million in cap space (which he likely won’t). He’d have better options to take players from teams that are over the cap (like Tampa) than to sign Hoffman.

Cherry Picker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:45 pm if Benning got rid of six million in cap space (which he likely won’t). He’d have better options to take players from teams that are over the cap (like Tampa) than to sign Hoffman.

Would Cernak or Pulock be worth a 1st and 2nd rounder?

Loui + 1st out.
Cernak or Pulock in on an offersheet below $4.3M in exchange for a 2nd rounder?

Mëds wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:51 pm

Cherry Picker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:45 pm if Benning got rid of six million in cap space (which he likely won’t). He’d have better options to take players from teams that are over the cap (like Tampa) than to sign Hoffman.

Would Cernak or Pulock be worth a 1st and 2nd rounder?

Loui + 1st out.
Cernak or Pulock in on an offersheet below $4.3M in exchange for a 2nd rounder?

To get a team to let an asset like Pulock or Cernak go you have to make the offer too rich and the compensation better than a 2nd. A low offer like that will be an automatic match and gain the offering GM an instant enemy.

Benning isnt that guy