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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:51 am
by Hockey Widow
Dahlen’s agent confirmed he asked for a trade, after the trade went down.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:59 am
by ESQ
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:08 am
No. Olaf was 6th in ice time among D men when he got shut down. Lind and Gadjovich are developing at a snails pace in the AHL right now.
Where are you finding TOI stats for Utica?

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:13 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
ESQ wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:59 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:08 am
No. Olaf was 6th in ice time among D men when he got shut down. Lind and Gadjovich are developing at a snails pace in the AHL right now.
Where are you finding TOI stats for Utica?
I went off of what orcatown and bad goalie from hfboards were reporting. Even though hfboards is covered with piss stained mouth breathers those two are among a handful of useful resources there. I tried to look myself but I couldn’t find those stats. I do know he put up the vast majority of his points on the pp.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:36 pm
by SKYO
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:08 am
SKYO wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:50 am Olli Juolevi was playing as the Comets top dman playing in every situation and was playing great! till he got injured.
No. Olaf was 6th in ice time among D men when he got shut down. Lind and Gadjovich are developing at a snails pace in the AHL right now.
False

And how would you even know that? you went to the game with a stop watch? as the AHL doesn't keep those stats of TOI at all.
Talked with Utica gm Ryan Johnson about the Comets 1st 2 games of the season. Johnson on Juolevi :

"I liked his play, played 20 minutes both nights and looked very composed on the pp. He is making lots of smart reads, I'm excited about him."
Keeping:

Juolevi had a steady debut for the #Comets Led Utica d-men with,
-11 CTL Exits on 22 touches.
-63% share of shots
-11 Shots (9 ES, 2 PP)
-6 Shot Assists (1ES, 5 PP)
-17 Primary Shot Contributions
Canucks army breakdown of Juolevi's strong game play -
https://canucksarmy.com/2018/10/30/olli ... um=twitter

And looking at the Comets lineups in November, Juolevi was on the top pairing a lot prior to his injury either playing with Chatfield or Sifers (alternate captain)

Nov 7 top pk unit -
MacEwen and Kero
Juolevi, Sifers,

&

Comets first PP unit
Dahlen - Kero - MacEwen
MacMaster - Juolevi


So Juolevi was getting top pairing minutes, top powerplay minutes and top penalty kill minutes.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:23 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
No he wasn’t getting top pairing minutes. I’ll go with the guys who actually watch the games. He was getting sheltered minutes for most of his brief chunk of a season. Hopefully they would have increased as he apparently had a couple 20 minute games near the end of his 20 game tenure.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:43 pm
by SKYO
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:23 pm No he wasn’t getting top pairing minutes.

I’ll go with the guys who actually watch the games.

He was getting sheltered minutes for most of his brief chunk of a season. Hopefully they would have increased as he apparently had a couple 20 minute games near the end of his 20 game tenure.
Did you even read that article from October 30th?
Primarily, he’s currently in the best situation when considering his development as a player. He’s on the top pairing in Utica with Jalen Chatfield, who is exactly the type of partner Juolevi needs to compliment his playing style. Juolevi needs a right-handed partner who is a plus skater, capable of making aggressive reads in the neutral zone and becoming a passing option in the defensive zone. This is exactly what Chatfield does as he himself is becoming an option for the Canucks when he’s back to full health, but that’s a different story.

Additionally, Juolevi is getting top power-play and penalty-killing experience in Utica. This is resulting in over 20 minutes per game and is critical for his development.

https://canucksarmy.com/2018/10/30/olli-juolevi/
Even the Comets writer Hergott (who watches every Utica game obviously) said:
"Juolevi was in the top pair with Jalen Chatfield from day one."

It's ok to lose a message board debate once in awhile blob.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:13 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
SKYO wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:43 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:23 pm No he wasn’t getting top pairing minutes.

I’ll go with the guys who actually watch the games.

He was getting sheltered minutes for most of his brief chunk of a season. Hopefully they would have increased as he apparently had a couple 20 minute games near the end of his 20 game tenure.
Did you even read that article from October 30th?
Primarily, he’s currently in the best situation when considering his development as a player. He’s on the top pairing in Utica with Jalen Chatfield, who is exactly the type of partner Juolevi needs to compliment his playing style. Juolevi needs a right-handed partner who is a plus skater, capable of making aggressive reads in the neutral zone and becoming a passing option in the defensive zone. This is exactly what Chatfield does as he himself is becoming an option for the Canucks when he’s back to full health, but that’s a different story.

Additionally, Juolevi is getting top power-play and penalty-killing experience in Utica. This is resulting in over 20 minutes per game and is critical for his development.

https://canucksarmy.com/2018/10/30/olli-juolevi/
Even the Comets writer Hergott (who watches every Utica game obviously) said:
"Juolevi was in the top pair with Jalen Chatfield from day one."

It's ok to lose a message board debate once in awhile blob.
I’ll take the word of the orcatown guy

But thanks anyways :thumbs:

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:28 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
At the end of the day Skyo. If he didn’t have a back injury he would have been called up by now. At that point we will both have a better idea of what he is or isn’t.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:32 pm
by Strangelove
SKYO wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:43 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:23 pm No he wasn’t getting top pairing minutes.

I’ll go with the guys who actually watch the games.

He was getting sheltered minutes for most of his brief chunk of a season. Hopefully they would have increased as he apparently had a couple 20 minute games near the end of his 20 game tenure.
Did you even read that article from October 30th?
Primarily, he’s currently in the best situation when considering his development as a player. He’s on the top pairing in Utica with Jalen Chatfield, who is exactly the type of partner Juolevi needs to compliment his playing style. Juolevi needs a right-handed partner who is a plus skater, capable of making aggressive reads in the neutral zone and becoming a passing option in the defensive zone. This is exactly what Chatfield does as he himself is becoming an option for the Canucks when he’s back to full health, but that’s a different story.

Additionally, Juolevi is getting top power-play and penalty-killing experience in Utica. This is resulting in over 20 minutes per game and is critical for his development.

https://canucksarmy.com/2018/10/30/olli-juolevi/
Even the Comets writer Hergott (who watches every Utica game obviously) said:
"Juolevi was in the top pair with Jalen Chatfield from day one."

It's ok to lose a message board debate once in awhile blob.
WIN: Skyo

Blob was talking out his ass again so Skyo ripped off his head and shit down the hole...

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:34 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Ever generous Blob concedes to the Special Olympians


:thumbs:

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:43 pm
by Strangelove
Admit it Blob, you flat out lied to the board about how OJ has performed in the AHL and Skyo called you on it.

It's one thing to bitch and moan during a rebuild about bleakness, but lying is another thing altogether...

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:55 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Strangelove wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:43 pm Admit it Blob, you flat out lied to the board about how OJ has performed in the AHL and Skyo called you on it.

It's one thing to bitch and moan during a rebuild about bleakness, but lying is another thing altogether...
Sure

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:00 pm
by Strangelove
psssssst... your pants are on fire.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:00 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Rrrrrrrrriiiigghhht

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:11 pm
by Topper
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:08 amNo. Olaf was 6th in ice time among D men when he got shut down. Lind and Gadjovich are developing at a snails pace in the AHL right now.
You whined similarly about Virtanen during his year in Utica. Little did you know about his development there.