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Re: 2025 UFA Market

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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:39 am HW- Marner is a UFA July 1. Any NMC clause is irrelevant at this point.

Tavares is having a solid season statistically. He's going back to Toronto for 7 x 3.
The NMC is in effect until July 1. So any trade for his rights even would have to be approved by Marner. That’s all we’re saying. He can hold Toronto’s feet to the fire in hopes that they re-sign him rather than lose him for nothing.

The Leaves already have Matthews and Nylander locked up down the middle. The role open to Tavares is 3C. Do you spend $7M on your 3rd line pivot? I think that if they can get Marner to take $12M they keep him and bid adieu to Tavares. They would be stupid to do otherwise, Marner should be a productive 200 foot winger for at least another 4-5 seasons. Tavares likely transitions towards being a 3C statically in a couple of years.

Now if your “7 x 3” meant 7 years x $3M…..ok, you’ve got me there. 😛
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I was actually quite impressed with some of Chicago's young defensemen. They were putting up a solid fight and carried the play for longer stretches than I would've liked.

How about that Russian (#55), he was everywhere and is only 20 or something
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Haven't you seen Tavares wearing his maple laughs pajamas?

He's never playing anywhere else
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:48 am I was actually quite impressed with some of Chicago's young defensemen. They were putting up a solid fight and carried the play for longer stretches than I would've liked.

How about that Russian (#55), he was everywhere and is only 20 or something
Levshunov. He’s a beaut. The 2nd overall pick last year. Yeah the Blackhawks have a very solid looking future D with Levshunov, Vlasic, Kaiser and Crevier and Del Mastro. And they have Korchinski cooking in the minors. The young depth they have is why it made Jones expendable. Apparently Jones was a headcase and a problem in the room. A number of hawk players have made subtle comments in regards to his departure. The Hawks will most likely land a high end forward in the draft - Misa, Hagens, Martone, Frondell, Eklund, Desnoyers, McQueen or O’Brien. Their future looks good. Landing young netminder Spencer Knight in the Jones was a solid move.
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Misery Guts wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:24 am Allvin definitely has a serious problem at centre ice and the top 6. The only solution is via this summers UFA market of you are forced to table these assets via a trade - Lekkerimaki, Willander, D-Pete and the 2025 1st. They have two options. And it’s looking very dim. Would have been nice to have added that extra asset from a Boeser trade.

I am enjoying the renewed enthusiasm with the Canucks lately but let us remember, the Blackhawks are the worst team in the league. If we are to use a measuring stick let’s see how we fair against the “haves” down the stretch.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:39 am HW- Marner is a UFA July 1. Any NMC clause is irrelevant at this point.

Tavares is having a solid season statistically. He's going back to Toronto for 7 x 3.

Chytil is not on any audition. He will play if healthy.

A centre will likely have to come via trade unless they can convince the good Granlund to leave the Finnish mafia come July 1.
I know. But the talk was trade him at the draft. To which I replied he has a full NMC.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:54 pm
Misery Guts wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:24 am Allvin definitely has a serious problem at centre ice and the top 6. The only solution is via this summers UFA market of you are forced to table these assets via a trade - Lekkerimaki, Willander, D-Pete and the 2025 1st. They have two options. And it’s looking very dim. Would have been nice to have added that extra asset from a Boeser trade.

I am enjoying the renewed enthusiasm with the Canucks lately but let us remember, the Blackhawks are the worst team in the league. If we are to use a measuring stick let’s see how we fair against the “haves” down the stretch.
They have cap space and they have some solid depth and can part with a good young piece. You're supposed to be a leader in the urine crew community. Start educating your people....pay it forward you grumpy old cunt.
My guts do feel like misery some times, but I’m working on eating better and boozing less. They basically have only two avenues at their disposal to improve the top 6 and I’m not talking middle six in which we have in abundance of - as you said, dealing from one of our 3 prized kids and the 2025 1st. Or tapping into this years UFA market which is a pretty sad looking group. My money is on the further depletion of the pipeline. Sadly, but I see no other coarse. They’ve annihilated the prospect pipeline to sub standard levels.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:33 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:54 pm
Misery Guts wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:24 am Allvin definitely has a serious problem at centre ice and the top 6. The only solution is via this summers UFA market of you are forced to table these assets via a trade - Lekkerimaki, Willander, D-Pete and the 2025 1st. They have two options. And it’s looking very dim. Would have been nice to have added that extra asset from a Boeser trade.

I am enjoying the renewed enthusiasm with the Canucks lately but let us remember, the Blackhawks are the worst team in the league. If we are to use a measuring stick let’s see how we fair against the “haves” down the stretch.
They have cap space and they have some solid depth and can part with a good young piece. You're supposed to be a leader in the urine crew community. Start educating your people....pay it forward you grumpy old cunt.
My guts do feel like misery some times, but I’m working on eating better and boozing less. They basically have only two avenues at their disposal to improve the top 6 and I’m not talking middle six in which we have in abundance of - as you said, dealing from one of our 3 prized kids and the 2025 1st. Or tapping into this years UFA market which is a pretty sad looking group. My money is on the further depletion of the pipeline. Sadly, but I see no other coarse. They’ve annihilated the prospect pipeline to sub standard levels.
The prospect pool was a pile of feces when they got here. The cap was jacked and slugs like OEL and Poolman were sucking the tit.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:02 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:33 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:54 pm
Misery Guts wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:24 am Allvin definitely has a serious problem at centre ice and the top 6. The only solution is via this summers UFA market of you are forced to table these assets via a trade - Lekkerimaki, Willander, D-Pete and the 2025 1st. They have two options. And it’s looking very dim. Would have been nice to have added that extra asset from a Boeser trade.

I am enjoying the renewed enthusiasm with the Canucks lately but let us remember, the Blackhawks are the worst team in the league. If we are to use a measuring stick let’s see how we fair against the “haves” down the stretch.
They have cap space and they have some solid depth and can part with a good young piece. You're supposed to be a leader in the urine crew community. Start educating your people....pay it forward you grumpy old cunt.
My guts do feel like misery some times, but I’m working on eating better and boozing less. They basically have only two avenues at their disposal to improve the top 6 and I’m not talking middle six in which we have in abundance of - as you said, dealing from one of our 3 prized kids and the 2025 1st. Or tapping into this years UFA market which is a pretty sad looking group. My money is on the further depletion of the pipeline. Sadly, but I see no other coarse. They’ve annihilated the prospect pipeline to sub standard levels.
The prospect pool was a pile of feces when they got here. The cap was jacked and slugs like OEL and Poolman were sucking the tit.
It wasn’t the greatest but they certainly are doing no better at improving it, the mandate hasn’t changed. Same old same old. They need to take a break from trading draft picks. It’s getting a bit much. The team is very thin in talent and far from being players in the post season. In their minds they honestly believe they can fast track it by trading and signing their way out of it, it’s fools gold. If managements attitude don’t change the mushy middle is where we shall remain.
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The prospect pool is better. Its deeper and they have a ton of cap space. The team is also better.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:46 pm The prospect pool is better. Its deeper and they have a ton of cap space. The team is also better.
“Better” can be argued. The defence has improved but the forward group is thinner than Brad Ference’s arms with only Lekkerimaki and his birdbones as our only legitimate forward prospect. Raty is the next Brendan Gaunce. The goalie situation could be in peril with Demko’s injury problems and pending UFA status after next season, will they walk him to UFA and lose him for nothing like we are about to with Boeser and Suter? The prospect will be utter garbage once Willander has graduated.
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Mëds wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:46 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:39 am HW- Marner is a UFA July 1. Any NMC clause is irrelevant at this point.

Tavares is having a solid season statistically. He's going back to Toronto for 7 x 3.
The NMC is in effect until July 1. So any trade for his rights even would have to be approved by Marner. That’s all we’re saying. He can hold Toronto’s feet to the fire in hopes that they re-sign him rather than lose him for nothing.

The Leaves already have Matthews and Nylander locked up down the middle. The role open to Tavares is 3C. Do you spend $7M on your 3rd line pivot? I think that if they can get Marner to take $12M they keep him and bid adieu to Tavares. They would be stupid to do otherwise, Marner should be a productive 200 foot winger for at least another 4-5 seasons. Tavares likely transitions towards being a 3C statically in a couple of years.

Now if your “7 x 3” meant 7 years x $3M…..ok, you’ve got me there. 😛
Nylander is not a centre in the NHL.

They've tried him there a couple of times over the years and he failed miserably.

Tavares is clearly their #2 centre and rumour is they are close on a $7M x 3 deal.

They were looking for a #3 centre all year and settled on Laughton at the deadline.

(Domi is horribad at centre, Kampf is a 4th liner, and they just traded Minten and Dewar)

Pretty sure they fucked up on Laughton due to the fact he severely sucks.

But I digress...

It's likely they will re-sign both Tavares and Marner because the weirdoes actually like it in TO.

(and management in TO seem to like to "run it back" despite the poor results)

Marner at $12.5M + Tavares at $7M = $19.5M for both.

That's less than the $22M they are paying them right now.
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We need to go all in on Bennett. Yes, it will be a massive overpayment but he’s an upgrade on Boeser. I don’t like the idea of giving molasses skates Boeser a big contract.
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Obviously Bennett will end up hugely overpaid if he hits the market.

And perhaps Canucks are desperate enough to offer him ridiculous dollars.

But so will other teams and why would he choose your Vancouver Canucks.

Perhaps the contender that signs him would trade us a #2 centre to make room?
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Agree with Doc on most points. But I really I think Marner is sick of it there. I see him going to Chicago.
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