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Re: 2025 TDD - Canucks speculation

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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:15 am Miller is missed. He'd school and wipe his ass with Gordie Howe, Bob Probert, Joe Thornton, Cam Neely and Eric Lindros. They must have his HHOF plaque dialed in already. He's certainly got his speech ready. The dude is a legend.
Give it a rest. This is getting about as entertaining as Elmer.
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Mëds wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:24 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:15 am Miller is missed. He'd school and wipe his ass with Gordie Howe, Bob Probert, Joe Thornton, Cam Neely and Eric Lindros. They must have his HHOF plaque dialed in already. He's certainly got his speech ready. The dude is a legend.
Give it a rest. This is getting about as entertaining as Elmer.
Or as entertaining as 8 posters running around saying Elmer is a genius every post. That was like Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon in their prime. Times it by four and it was comedic genius. And that was clearly ok to you. I dont remember you pushing back much. Benning was a blight on this franchise. Perhaps I should qualify every post with "Petey is a wizard"

Since the whole pukestorm there has been a real anti Pettersson vibe. I think you confuse Pettersson apologists with the people here who just want the team and player to be better. I have repeatedly said I don't care who got traded. I want the thing settled. The Miller pitchfork crew mobilized like the Russian Army because they didn't get their way. I see no Pettersson apologists here. I see people licking Miller's asscracks here. A lot ofcthis is on Rutherford and Allvin to let it fester. I never chose a side. I choose the sweater. I pushed back against thirty posts of Miller fan boys running around high fiving each other after every Scooter Boy, 11.6 joke and telling themselves how correct they were.

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So Vancouver is looking for a Bo Horvat/JT Miller type centre?

Have they paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
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At this point, management should be sellers or quiet this year at the TDD.

Just flush this season and prep for next season.

People say everything went right last year for the team. Hard to say otherwise. This season, the team is getting that paid back in spades. Pretty much everything that could go wrong has gone wrong. The only things that have gone right are the continued development of Hughes into a generational defenceman (though that has been marred by injury) and the development of youngsters like D. Petey and Lekkerimaki. Even then, the youngsters have hardly been revelations this year.

There's just too much bad mojo swirling around this club to clear out this season before the playoffs. Even if they made it, what's the point when they'll get their heads kicked in?

Not saying to tank; just let this team fight it out till April, give some reps to the youngsters, and stick a fork in them when the Regular Season ends.

As much as Quinn and Demko can alter a game and patch over some serious roster warts, this team only goes as far as Petey will take them. I don't see him getting better at any point this year. He's slow, tentative and unconfident; and I suspect that this is due in no small part to poor offseason habits/rehab issues. He evidently hasn't caught up, and there's no reason to expect that he will over the next month. Shut Petey and Quinn down the rest of the season like they did Demko, and let them spend the time rehabbing and preparing for next season. Better that than pushing them all to little effect, only to see them potentially injured in the playoffs with less time to recover.
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If the rumoured video clip of Petey calling JT a hot head, whilst the former was vacationing on a beach somewhere, is true, then we know what we have in him and shouldn't even be wasting our time. A guy like that won't take a team anywhere.

Hughes is the ONLY keeper.

Next I'm keeping Brock is the price/term is right.....you need some players who have longevity with the team. But I doubt he wants to stick around for another re-tool.
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Lancer wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:33 pm At this point...
I think would be the course that would do the most to maximize the chances that the Canucks win a Cup some time before their 60th anniversary.

I think Management knows that, too. What actually happens could provide some indication of good they are at selling sense to the Little Eagles.
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Topper wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:14 pm So Vancouver is looking for a Bo Horvat/JT Miller type centre?

Have they paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
No curbs in sight for enjoying nachos upon either

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Mëds wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:03 pm The idea of dropping Brock and chasing Rantanen......

Hard pass.

Since being traded to Carolina he has 1G and 3PTs in 7 games.

At the 4-Nations tournament he had 1G and 0A in 3 games.

Sakic and Co. moved him out because Burnaby Joe is a savvy former franchise talent who knows what he has in players. He knew that Rantanen without MacKinnon is probably an 70-80 point player. While you have to overpay sometimes on players to maintain the chemistry of a line, you don't overpay by that much.

Rantanen in Vancouver right now would probably be a 70PT winger.

Hell, you could put Ovechkin in Vancouver right now, and with the way Pettersson is playing, Ovie wouldn't catch Gretzky's record until the Olympic break.
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Madcombinepilot wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:37 pm
Mëds wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:03 pm The idea of dropping Brock and chasing Rantanen......

Hard pass.

Since being traded to Carolina he has 1G and 3PTs in 7 games.

At the 4-Nations tournament he had 1G and 0A in 3 games.

Sakic and Co. moved him out because Burnaby Joe is a savvy former franchise talent who knows what he has in players. He knew that Rantanen without MacKinnon is probably an 70-80 point player. While you have to overpay sometimes on players to maintain the chemistry of a line, you don't overpay by that much.

Rantanen in Vancouver right now would probably be a 70PT winger.

Hell, you could put Ovechkin in Vancouver right now, and with the way Pettersson is playing, Ovie wouldn't catch Gretzky's record until the Olympic break.
Rantanen won’t sign for less than $12.5M anywhere.
Oh.. this will age well.

Stacking up points on the Stars, and [checks notes] signed for less than 12.5 in Dallas.
It's true!

I don't think anyone saw him inking for $12M though after the way things went in Colorado and Carolina. Two trades must have woke him up. I'm very surprised that he didn't just refuse and then re-up with Colorado for the same money if that is where he wanted to finish his career.

I wonder if Sakic and Co were concerned he was going to slow down. Rantanen is not considered a fast skater, he's just very smooth and strong.
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    Mëds wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:22 pm
    he's just very smooth and strong
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    Mëds wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:22 pm
    Madcombinepilot wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:37 pm
    Mëds wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:03 pm The idea of dropping Brock and chasing Rantanen......

    Hard pass.

    Since being traded to Carolina he has 1G and 3PTs in 7 games.

    At the 4-Nations tournament he had 1G and 0A in 3 games.

    Sakic and Co. moved him out because Burnaby Joe is a savvy former franchise talent who knows what he has in players. He knew that Rantanen without MacKinnon is probably an 70-80 point player. While you have to overpay sometimes on players to maintain the chemistry of a line, you don't overpay by that much.

    Rantanen in Vancouver right now would probably be a 70PT winger.

    Hell, you could put Ovechkin in Vancouver right now, and with the way Pettersson is playing, Ovie wouldn't catch Gretzky's record until the Olympic break.
    Rantanen won’t sign for less than $12.5M anywhere.
    Oh.. this will age well.

    Stacking up points on the Stars, and [checks notes] signed for less than 12.5 in Dallas.
    It's true!

    I don't think anyone saw him inking for $12M though after the way things went in Colorado and Carolina. Two trades must have woke him up. I'm very surprised that he didn't just refuse and then re-up with Colorado for the same money if that is where he wanted to finish his career.

    I wonder if Sakic and Co were concerned he was going to slow down. Rantanen is not considered a fast skater, he's just very smooth and strong.
    Sometimes low state taxes and a chance to win the Stanley Cup can move the needle. He wasn't coming here for $12, or for any price really.
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    Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:33 pm
      Mëds wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:22 pm
      he's just very smooth and strong
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      Megaterio Llamas wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:46 pm Sometimes low state taxes and a chance to win the Stanley Cup can move the needle. He wasn't coming here for $12, or for any price really.
      I would never have assumed that he was.
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