Trade rumours & armchair pipe dreams 19-20 Sponsored by SKYO

[Cherry Picker]

Brian Burke on record saying he doesn't think that OEL puts Vancouver over the top if it also costs them Tanev. I tend to agree with him.

They also talked about Vancouver being in the mix for this because of not being able to sign Boeser.....I'm assuming they meant Toffoli.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/tim-and-sid-sh ... nucks-top/

Yup, signing Tanev for much cheaper is the wiser move than taking on tve massive contract of a 29 year old declining asset. If I was Arizona I would just accept whatever to get out from under that future massive headache

If they only give up Sutter and not Loui, the deal would be terrible. Sutter is done at the end of the year. Canucks should focus on the year after this. Get all these rookie defensemen a year to grow in the NHL and go for the cup the year after. Benning should keep picks and prospects and let these bad contracts expire with extending their yearly pain through buyouts.

[Cherry Picker]

When does free agency begin anyway?

Tick tick tick...

What does it mean for vancouver if all 3 UFAs bolt? This seems like the likeliest scenario to date...

Is Barrie coming home? Does Tanev out/Barrie in make Van better, worse or the same? How about Dhillon + Barrie minus Tanev? Having just watched our prized young rookie flourish, will him losing his partner negatively affect his game?

They don’t need Barrie. They may have enough skill on D, but need some beef if they already have two smaller D in Hughes and Rathbone.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Brian Burke on record saying he doesn't think that OEL puts Vancouver over the top if it also costs them Tanev. I tend to agree with him.

They also talked about Vancouver being in the mix for this because of not being able to sign Boeser.....I'm assuming they meant Toffoli.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/tim-and-sid-sh ... nucks-top/

Yup, signing Tanev for much cheaper is the wiser move than taking on tve massive contract of a 29 year old declining asset. If I was Arizona I would just accept whatever to get out from under that future massive headache

If they only give up Sutter and not Loui, the deal would be terrible. Sutter is done at the end of the year. Canucks should focus on the year after this. Get all these rookie defensemen a year to grow in the NHL and go for the cup the year after. Benning should keep picks and prospects and let these bad contracts expire with extending their yearly pain through buyouts.

There is a brief window open for next season where you have QH and EP on entry level deals. After that things become far more complicated.

I want to see this team load up again and take another shot...any 2 of sutter, eriksson and Baertchi out to make space for upgrades is the ideal scenario IMO

[Cousin Strawberry]

When does free agency begin anyway?

Tick tick tick...

What does it mean for vancouver if all 3 UFAs bolt? This seems like the likeliest scenario to date...

Is Barrie coming home? Does Tanev out/Barrie in make Van better, worse or the same? How about Dhillon + Barrie minus Tanev? Having just watched our prized young rookie flourish, will him losing his partner negatively affect his game?

They don’t need Barrie. They may have enough skill on D, but need some beef if they already have two smaller D in Hughes and Rathbone.

I dunno man, Rathboner is a raw prospect and we're entering contender status (yaya...i know....dependant on the moves made over the next 2 months obviously).

I would expect him to spend a season in the A before he can work his way up the depth chart. If hes farther along then great but its not often thats the case.

We have a gaping hole or 2even in our top 4 defense. Adding more skill and maybe even building a decent 2nd unit for the powerplay is only going to be a win for the team. If Barrie truly wants to be a canuck (like it sounds) then coming home for 5-6 mill and stepping into our top 4 would be fantastic. Hes still a 50+ point a year defenseman.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Brian Burke on record saying he doesn't think that OEL puts Vancouver over the top if it also costs them Tanev. I tend to agree with him.

They also talked about Vancouver being in the mix for this because of not being able to sign Boeser.....I'm assuming they meant Toffoli.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/tim-and-sid-sh ... nucks-top/

Yup, signing Tanev for much cheaper is the wiser move than taking on tve massive contract of a 29 year old declining asset. If I was Arizona I would just accept whatever to get out from under that future massive headache

I’m not sure signing Tanev to a four or five year deal is the answer either. But I agree with you Chicken Strings, that an OEL trade could be a disaster

[theman]

Brian Burke on record saying he doesn't think that OEL puts Vancouver over the top if it also costs them Tanev. I tend to agree with him.

They also talked about Vancouver being in the mix for this because of not being able to sign Boeser.....I'm assuming they meant Toffoli.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/tim-and-sid-sh ... nucks-top/

Yup, signing Tanev for much cheaper is the wiser move than taking on tve massive contract of a 29 year old declining asset. If I was Arizona I would just accept whatever to get out from under that future massive headache

I’m not sure signing Tanev to a four or five year deal is the answer either. But I agree with you Chicken Strings, that an OEL trade could be a disaster

Out of our 3 'UFAs' I wouldn't sign any to long term deals, perhaps 3 year max. The only one I would consider going 4 years on, if the average was right would be Taffoli. I can see huge drop in production from both Tanev and Markstrom.

[Mickey107]

When does free agency begin anyway?

Tick tick tick...

What does it mean for vancouver if all 3 UFAs bolt? This seems like the likeliest scenario to date...

Is Barrie coming home? Does Tanev out/Barrie in make Van better, worse or the same? How about Dhillon + Barrie minus Tanev? Having just watched our prized young rookie flourish, will him losing his partner negatively affect his game?

They don’t need Barrie. They may have enough skill on D, but need some beef if they already have two smaller D in Hughes and Rathbone.

I dunno man, Rathboner is a raw prospect and we're entering contender status (yaya...i know....dependant on the moves made over the next 2 months obviously).

I would expect him to spend a season in the A before he can work his way up the depth chart. If hes farther along then great but its not often thats the case.

We have a gaping hole or 2even in our top 4 defense. Adding more skill and maybe even building a decent 2nd unit for the powerplay is only going to be a win for the team. If Barrie truly wants to be a canuck (like it sounds) then coming home for 5-6 mill and stepping into our top 4 would be fantastic. Hes still a 50+ point a year defenseman.

It makes more sense then a massive OEL, multi-year crippling contract. Not to mention there will be more affordable defense men needed.
Stecher? who knows, doubt he's back but he can sign cheap if he wants to stay. Under the circumstances of the challenging times, I doubt there'll be heat from the PA to players that sign for almost dirt but I think Troy moves on.
Fantenburg is an FA. Jordie Benn can't make the line-up. Edler has one season left however the longer the wait, will he? Could always retire, you never know. Point is, there are three decent D-men needed, Jim and Travis think Olli is ready. I hope so. Rathbone I think can work sooner then later. In the past playoffs, Quinn got mega ice time cause he's so good and the go to guy. He cant take that on a regular basis over an 82 game, condensed season, My God.
I hope old Tanev decides to help the team out for two more years bu at the end of the day, at some point, he has to think about himself.
Na! Be a team guy, Chris..
It will be a challenge to get the blue line in good order all the while knowing Hughes and Pettersson need contracts the year after.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Why the fuck would Edler retire when he still has six million owed to him and he’s capable of playing a few more years?

[theman]

Why the fuck would Edler retire when he still has six million owed to him and he’s capable of playing a few more years?

I think he meant, after next season.

[Mickey107]

Why the fuck would Edler retire when he still has six million owed to him and he’s capable of playing a few more years?

Well as long as he's able to stay fit, he probably wont quit. It's actually only five to him in the last year. Not sure about him being capable of
a few more years though. He's looking very distinguished of late.

[rats19]

Why the fuck would Edler retire when he still has six million owed to him and he’s capable of playing a few more years?

Well as long as he's able to stay fit, he probably wont quit. It's actually only five to him in the last year. Not sure about him being capable of
a few more years though. He's looking very distinguished of late.

Does distinguished mean ... old????

[Blob Mckenzie]

Edler will be fine when he’s pushed to the bottom pairing. He’s still a capable d man though. Next contract for him should be 2-3 million. On this team he’s still a top 4 D currently.

[Cherry Picker]

Edler is year-by-year after this season.

The Canucks left side depth ideally will start out as:

Hughes
Edler
Juolevi
Rathbone

Ideally by the end of this coming season it will be:

Hughes
Rathbone
Juolevi
Edler

Really OEL is not an important need for this team.

The right side is more difficult if Tanev follows the light and cashes in with another team.
Deep down I think that is probably best for the Canucks as declining play and injuries are likely going to end up with regrets with whichever team signs him to a big contract. The right-side depth right now if they just qualify Stecher is:

Myers
Stecher
Rafferty
Benn

Ideally, if the prospects develop well, by the end of the season it would be:

Myers
Rafferty
Woo
Stecher

Could the right side use an upgrade? Sure, but it doesn’t have to happen right away if it means signing a risky contract. They can make that trade anytime up to the trade deadline. I think they need some nastiness and grit to defend and help kill penalties. Maybe Woo helps with that. Maybe Tryamkin can help this season if half the KHL gets Covid and they cancel their season early. Would Putin allow that?

[SKYO]

Holy shit! Canucks got a offer on the table for OEL right nurr, right nurr...(nelly old school).

via dhaliwal team1040.

[theman]

Holy shit! Canucks got a offer on the table for OEL right nurr, right nurr...(nelly old school).

via dhaliwal team1040.

Got a link? Nothing on his twitter.