YOU must be proud of the Dems dirty politics these days.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:39 pm
by Cornuck
Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:33 pm
YOU must be proud of the Dems dirty politics these days.
If by 'dirty politics', you mean having a hearing about a suspected rapist getting on the highest court in the land, then I guess so. But of course, if the repubs had not been playing 'dirty politics' and had even a single hearing for Garland, then I might not be laughing so hard at your sad, sad attempt to once again deflect.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:55 pm
by Strangelove
He's not "a suspected rapist" and Blasey Ford is a hardcore political activist mounting a smear campaign, nothing more.
The Dems are desperate and they will fail... again.
Topper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:40 pm
Climate change has been ongoing for over 4.6 billion years. The catastrophic events in earths history are due to geologic and or cosmic events. Species have come and gone. Mass extinctions have occurred. Earth kept rolling along as did life on Earth. To think our insignificant species can have a lasting effect is to be on the arrogant side of the debate.
Straw man. No-one is trying to make a lasting effect in terms of millenia. For the most part people are thinking of the immediate future, i.e. their kids and grandkids.
Princely the shortsighted arrogant belief that natural processes can be reversed in order to perpetuate a species in stasis.
The nice thing about natural processes is that they are very slow, giving mankind time to adapt. It's an acceleration of the change that we want to avoid.
Mass extinctions like the K/T boundary didn't happen in an instant, except in geological time, an instant.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:25 pm
by Per
Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:33 pm
YOU must be proud of the Dems dirty politics these days.
At least he is getting a hearing...
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:25 am
by ukcanuck
Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:55 pm
He's not "a suspected rapist" and Blasey Ford is a hardcore political activist mounting a smear campaign, nothing more.
The Dems are desperate and they will fail... again.
You must be so proud.
There is an allegation and until it’s proven to be true or false how can kavanaugh sit as a Supreme Court judge?
The answer is he can’t. If a teacher was accused even falsely he would be on leave until it’s sorted out. Should t a judge be held to a higher standard ?
Topper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:40 pm
Climate change has been ongoing for over 4.6 billion years. The catastrophic events in earths history are due to geologic and or cosmic events. Species have come and gone. Mass extinctions have occurred. Earth kept rolling along as did life on Earth. To think our insignificant species can have a lasting effect is to be on the arrogant side of the debate.
Straw man. No-one is trying to make a lasting effect in terms of millenia. For the most part people are thinking of the immediate future, i.e. their kids and grandkids.
Princely the shortsighted arrogant belief that natural processes can be reversed in order to perpetuate a species in stasis.
The nice thing about natural processes is that they are very slow, giving mankind time to adapt. It's an acceleration of the change that we want to avoid.
Mass extinctions like the K/T boundary didn't happen in an instant, except in geological time, an instant.
Not relevant to a climate change discussion. Unless, of course, you are saying that despite mankind's ability to adapt in geological time to non-anthropogenic climate change, it's pointless since we'll probably be obliterated by an asteriod anyways.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:27 am
by Per
Topper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:40 pm
Climate change has been ongoing for over 4.6 billion years. The catastrophic events in earths history are due to geologic and or cosmic events. Species have come and gone. Mass extinctions have occurred. Earth kept rolling along as did life on Earth. To think our insignificant species can have a lasting effect is to be on the arrogant side of the debate.
Of course our insignificant species cannot have a lasting effect on the climate on earth, that's not the issue.
The issue is that we could quite possibly manage to render ourselves, most mammals, birds and amphibians extinct within two or three generations, if we do not attempt to slow the current anthropological heating.
Once we're gone, the heatwave caused by our bringing out carbon from the ground and spreading it in the atmosphere will subside within centuries and won't probably be more than an insignificant blip in the climate chart of all time.
The big stuff is caused by completely different factors. But we're not talking geology now, we're talking about desertification, forest fires, flooding and other minor details in the great scheme of things, yet minor details that could render the planet more or less inhospitable to us.
Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:55 pm
He's not "a suspected rapist" and Blasey Ford is a hardcore political activist mounting a smear campaign, nothing more.
The Dems are desperate and they will fail... again.
You must be so proud.
There is an allegation and until it’s proven to be true or false how can kavanaugh sit as a Supreme Court judge?
The answer is he can’t. If a teacher was accused even falsely he would be on leave until it’s sorted out.
Well done, no doubt this is the exact reasoning some folks would use before throwing down a false accusation.
Wait until the last possible moment in proceedings and then lay down a false accusation = stall tactics.
And of course smear campaigns against one's perceived enemy have their own rewards.
I call this dirty politics...
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:20 am
by Strangelove
Per wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:27 am
the current anthropological heating.
Per wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:27 am
the current anthropological heating.
Yeah, well, there's no scientific concensus, only 97% of climate scientists are convinced, but I think those 97% make a pretty compelling case for it.
The Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 650,000 years there have been seven cycles of glacial advance and retreat, with the abrupt end of the last ice age about 7,000 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.
Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal.
The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.
Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate.
The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century. Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many instruments flown by NASA. There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response.
Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that the Earth’s climate responds to changes in greenhouse gas levels. Ancient evidence can also be found in tree rings, ocean sediments, coral reefs, and layers of sedimentary rocks. This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.
We know human activities are driving the increase in CO2 concentrations because atmospheric CO2 contains information about its source. Scientists can tease apart how much CO2 comes from natural sources, and how much comes from combusted fossil fuel sources.
Compared to other carbon sources, carbon from fossil fuels has a distinctly different “signature,” essentially the relative amount of heavier or lighter atoms of carbon (technically δ13C). The more negative the δ13C, the higher the proportion of carbon from fossil fuels.
Over the years, δ13C has decreased while the overall amount of CO2 has increased. This information tells scientists that fossil fuel emissions are the largest contributor of CO2 concentrations since the pre-industrial era.
and Blasey Ford is a hardcore political activist mounting a smear campaign, nothing more.
